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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
potatowine · 12/05/2024 11:18

Pineapples1234 · 12/05/2024 11:12

You could also get the house up for sale. As it's a marital asset he'll have a claim on it's value but as it is solely in your name I think you can sell it without his consent. You just can't legally hide the money from the sale to prevent giving him any in the divorce.

Get legal advice first.

Hopefully you can buy him out by remortgaging and as it’s a short marriage and you don’t have kids together, it won’t be huge.

Would be nice to not to have to uproot the kids.

TheFormidableMrsC · 12/05/2024 11:20

Well done OP. I know from my own experiences that it takes time to "see" these type of men for what they are. Because if he had been like it from the outset, of course you wouldn't have married him. They don't show it until you're well and truly enmeshed.

I hope you can get out of this as painlessly as possible. It might be worth considering the Freedom Programme to help you avoid such people in the future Flowers

SwordToFlamethrower · 12/05/2024 11:26

I had a step dad like this, who was also violent on top. I'm still in therapy at age 47. Divorce the bastard and be sure to tell your kids WHY. Tell them you're so sorry and from now on, they will be your top priority and that you love them very much.
My mum never did. She chose him over and over again and I have cPTSD and a whole shit load of bad coping mechanisms.

Please.

KreedKafer · 12/05/2024 11:30

Of course you should divorce him. He’s a revolting bully.

Nanny0gg · 12/05/2024 11:31

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:52

Thank you for your replies. I have seen a solicitor who said he would have a claim on the house technically and my best bet would be to offer to pay him a settlement to get him to leave. He is refusing to move out despite me asking him though. What do I practically do?

After each argument I have clearly said to him I cannot live like this and asked what he would be looking for in the event of a divorce. He just says I am emotionally abusing him by repeatedly threatening divorce and will not discuss the terms of a separation with me.

He doesn't get to choose

Go back to your solicitor

Nanny0gg · 12/05/2024 11:32

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:59

He is going away nx weekend to his friends place so I am considering doing exactly that. In the first instance I would hope that he would go quietly though as I don’t want to risk him trying to bang the door down when we are inside.

Don't do that without legal advice

OutOfTheHouse · 12/05/2024 11:33

Well done on standing your ground.

I know someone who was in much the same situation. She chose the new husband over the children. The children haven’t had any contact with her since they were 18.

Nanny0gg · 12/05/2024 11:34

DriftingDora · 12/05/2024 10:00

Thanks for your lecture, yes I have read the OP's comments, but this is a forum - and people are free to put what comments they wish.

If there was any doubts about this man (and there must have been) then the smartest move was not to marry him, was it, especially as the OP had young kids? And it's time the OP started to put her own children first - he hasn't suddenly become like this overnight - afraid I don't buy that. Perhaps he was a family man when it suited him, but it's painfully obvious that there have been warning flags for some time - just because he could be 'nice' on occasions doesn't outweigh his aggression towards the children - or does it, in your view?

So any, you know, actual words of advice?

Or are you just here for the kicking?

SwordToFlamethrower · 12/05/2024 11:35

Tell the children you're kicking him out! Change the power dynamic! They will feel centred and loved that you have chosen THEM.

DelphiniumBlue · 12/05/2024 11:41

Ask him to leave and start divorce proceedings. If he wants a share of the house he can ask for it, don't offer anything as it is your children's home. Currently it is still a fairly short marriage, meaning he's be entitled to less, but the longer you leave it the bigger his potential share.
He may have contributed to the mortgage, but if he wasn't living in your house, he'd have to pay rent.
I would make sure your finances are very clear, could his contributions possibly be classed as contributions towards bills rather towards the mortgage? have you been paying a bigger share?
It may be that he will be entitled to a share of the equity, but it might be quite a small share, and if you have to pay it to get rid of him, then so be it. But don't agree to anything straightaway, and make sure you have info re his pension details and any savings for example.

DelphiniumBlue · 12/05/2024 11:44

Oh, and it sounds like he has threatened your children. I'd be keeping a very close eye, and tell him if he doesn't leave you will be reporting that to the police.
Have you got anyone you can enlist in helping him to understand he needs to move out? ExH even?

XMissPlacedX · 12/05/2024 11:49

In this case I would threaten to get the police involved if he doesn't leave quietly as he has been emotionally abusive to your children.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 12/05/2024 11:53

@BusyFinch
You’ve made the right decision to leave this man - well done for putting you and your children first!

Some of his behaviour sounds abusive - controlling and coercive behaviour, emotional and psychological abuse and physical abuse. I would consider reporting him to the police for this.

Ariela · 12/05/2024 11:54

If you owned the home before he moved in, then I would say you're in a much stronger place to pay him less, as presumably his share of the mortgage is less than it'd have cost to rent a 1 bed flat?

BusyMummy001 · 12/05/2024 11:59

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 11/05/2024 22:43

Why on earth did you marry him ?

You do not ask him to move out, you TELL him !
after all it's not likely to be you and your children that move out ( of your house ) is it !

This ^

Check your status with a solicitor and then you change the locks on the doors and leave his stuff on the front drive.

FlamingoQueen · 12/05/2024 12:02

Well done for kicking him out - he sounds like he’s drained the life and soul out of you and your family. You will all be so much happier without him.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/05/2024 12:05

HugeCwtch · 11/05/2024 22:44

My Husband hates my children

I didn't need to read more.
Why did you marry him?
Why are you still married to him?

Exactly this.

Get him out of you and your poor children's lives.

HesterRoon · 12/05/2024 12:06

Have read your posts OP and you are absolutely doing the right thing. No one goes into a marriage expecting it to fail and for their spouse to be not the person they thought they would be. But it’s time to call it a day as the damage it will do to your children will cause you great distress. It sounds as if he isn’t cut out to be a loving stepdad. A big weight will lift even if there is a financial cost to you-talk to your lawyer and see what you can do to mitigate it. If he gets upset, he is the instigator of his own misfortune, and keep that in your head. The freedom to provide a loving and supportive home for your children and you to be yourselves without either creeping around or endless confrontation will be priceless.

Zanatdy · 12/05/2024 12:06

well done for taking this step, you’ll be relieved when he’s gone and your children can live freely again.

Toooldforthis36 · 12/05/2024 12:11

Don’t know why you even need to ask? He sounds awful. Ask him to leave and look after yourself and your kids, they will thank you for it xx

tsmainsqueeze · 12/05/2024 12:13

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

I actually felt physically relieved when i read this update , those poor children i hope you find some help for them to recover from any damage this man may have caused them.

SammyScrounge · 12/05/2024 12:15

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

Don't put your children through this any longer. He's making their lives miserable over trivia.

Viviennemary · 12/05/2024 12:16

He sounds a total pain. Let him go and make somebody else's life a misery.

Ketzele · 12/05/2024 12:19

You are doing the right thing, OP. It's horrifying how many of us end up in these situations. I am a lifelong feminist AND was in a 20 year relationship with another woman; I never would have believed it possible that I would end up where I did. My brain was totally fucked, I didn't know what was reasonable any more.

And then the shame - oh god, so much shame, at what I let my kids go through. Luckily when we reached meltdown it was huge - I lost my job and our home - and then it was covid so I had lockdown to just be with my kids and rebuild our little family and decorate our new little hovel together.

I was absolutely on the verge of losing my eldest, and I made sure to be really honest with her and also to apologise for my part in her suffering. We are now so close.

You are getting a kicking on here, and I got a kicking too IRL from friends. But those same friends had my back, helped me rebuild, and kept me in touch with reality.

You've taken a brave step, OP. You'll need to keeping being brave for a while, but I promise you the rewards are fantastic.

Hollysberries · 12/05/2024 12:23

Why on earth did you marry him?

Has he had a personality transplant since the wedding?