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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Bantuchick · 14/05/2024 16:38

I get this is not an ideal situation but let’s be supportive in our language. Nobody is perfect.

Look after yourself, forgive yourself, love yourself. In order for you to be the best mum that’s what you need it starts with you. You are a good mum. Believe that . Otherwise you wouldn’t have come on here ♥️♥️

Mummy2024 · 14/05/2024 16:48

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 23:00

DS was beaming and said it was the right choice and DD was quite subdued asking what would happen about the holiday to Turkey we had booked - I said obvs he will not be coming and just us 3 will go. We then went to spend the afternoon with my family.

Keep us updated on your well being OP, I think alot of us here feel invested in your story now and want to know your doing OK x

BusyFinch · 14/05/2024 18:19

Update: He has been looking at places on Rightmove so hopefully he is engaging with the process of him moving out.

I have changed the bank account I get paid into to one in my sole name (previously we both only ever used our joint account) and I have changed my will to make my children the sole beneficiaries.

At the weekend when he is away visiting friends and the kids are at their dads I will remove half the money in our joint savings and joint current accounts and put them in an account in my sole name. I will then tell him I have done so and suggest he do the same with the remaining half the money.

I will also take his name off all the bills and put all house bills in my sole name. I will cancel all my direct debits from our joint account and transfer them to come from an account in my sole name and suggest he do the same.

Aim is to financially separate from him this weekend. Then if there is no clear moving date forthcoming I will apply for an occupation order.

I have told my sister and brother in law and my closest friend.

The ball is rolling….

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Purplecatshopaholic · 14/05/2024 18:23

Aww well done op. Go You!

datcherygrateful · 14/05/2024 18:29

Amazing OP!!!!!

AhNowTed · 14/05/2024 18:35

Fabulous update OP.

Well done you x

Hemakesmesmile2 · 14/05/2024 18:37

Really bloody proud of you OP. I remember doing this, it’s extremely cathartic x

PaperDreamsHoney · 14/05/2024 18:41

Well done. I'm really pleased for you. You're going to feel so relieved when it's done.

xyz111 · 14/05/2024 18:56

You sound well organised. I hope it all goes well.

Didsomeonesaydogs · 14/05/2024 18:58

Very impressive @BusyFinch you’re amazing!

Silvers11 · 14/05/2024 19:00

Well done OP. Sensible planning. \Hope it will go as smoothly as it can

goody2shooz · 14/05/2024 19:15

@BusyFinch why wait to move the money? I’d do it right away. Don’t forget to rename beneficiaries to any ‘Death in Service’ payments you might be eligible for.

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 14/05/2024 20:02

go Busyfinch. It feels you knew all along, just wanted some external verification and then just cracked on.

Keep going, I'm sure at some point you'll be upset, even if it's the loss of what should have been if he'd been decent. That's fine too.

I hope he's being reasonable.

BusyFinch · 14/05/2024 20:16

goody2shooz · 14/05/2024 19:15

@BusyFinch why wait to move the money? I’d do it right away. Don’t forget to rename beneficiaries to any ‘Death in Service’ payments you might be eligible for.

I want the kids out of the house at their dads and him out of the house away for the weekend in case he goes ballistic or turns nasty.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 14/05/2024 20:16

Personally I would transfer the money from the joint account/s now - as you may find he has the same idea, or even worse he empties them in the excuse of ' I needed a deposit and a months rent in advance ' etc.

Unless of course the Op is concerned he will be violent when he is told / finds out.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 14/05/2024 20:17

ah ! the Op was replying at the same time as I.

Busybeemumm · 14/05/2024 20:20

BusyFinch · 14/05/2024 20:16

I want the kids out of the house at their dads and him out of the house away for the weekend in case he goes ballistic or turns nasty.

If you are worried about your personal safety or that of your kids, you must be really cautious. Women are most at risk when trying to leave an abusive man. Maybe get some advice from a domestic violence specialist (Refuge/Women's aid) and the police. Don't take any risks. Your kids only have one mum.

ChangeAgain2 · 14/05/2024 20:41

BusyFinch · 14/05/2024 18:19

Update: He has been looking at places on Rightmove so hopefully he is engaging with the process of him moving out.

I have changed the bank account I get paid into to one in my sole name (previously we both only ever used our joint account) and I have changed my will to make my children the sole beneficiaries.

At the weekend when he is away visiting friends and the kids are at their dads I will remove half the money in our joint savings and joint current accounts and put them in an account in my sole name. I will then tell him I have done so and suggest he do the same with the remaining half the money.

I will also take his name off all the bills and put all house bills in my sole name. I will cancel all my direct debits from our joint account and transfer them to come from an account in my sole name and suggest he do the same.

Aim is to financially separate from him this weekend. Then if there is no clear moving date forthcoming I will apply for an occupation order.

I have told my sister and brother in law and my closest friend.

The ball is rolling….

@BusyFinch you need to close the joint accounts. My bank wanted both parties agreement and it was an absolute ball ache. Make sure you do it because you don't want him to create My dept that your jointly liable for.

Also keep an eye on your credit and lines in credit in your name.

XMissPlacedX · 14/05/2024 21:20

Keep going op, he will try all sorts of tactics (the script), he will tell you at some point he wants to stay and will change, when that doesn't work he could get nasty, following with a lovely helping of guilt tripping you and maybe a bit of slagging you off to your family for desert, be ready. You've done so well , what an amazing peaceful life you have ahead of you once it's all over x

AcrossthePond55 · 14/05/2024 23:08

@BusyFinch

You have been a busy finch, haven't you? Well done!

I understand wanting to get him out of the house before you change all the accounts. Just keep a very close eye on them in the meantime to be sure nothing 'disappears mysteriously'. I have my (US) online banking set up to send me a notification on my phone anytime there is a transaction of any kind, maybe you could see if that could be done for the accounts you're concerned about. It's pretty instantaneous.

You say you have a concern about him 'going ballistic'. I don't know how big/ real a concern you have, but if you think it's likely, you may want to buy lock barrels for your locks. They can be changed fairly easily, check You-Tube for videos to see if it's something your DIY skills are up to. Otherwise, find a local locksmith who does emergency calls and keep the phone number handy. They're expensive, though. Although if he does come home and starts raising Cain you can call the police and have him removed. That may make an occupation order easier to get. As long as you don't fear actual violence. If you do, change the locks/barrels. Better safe than sorry.

SinnerBoy · 15/05/2024 09:20

BusyFinch · Yesterday 20:16

I want the kids out of the house at their dads and him out of the house away for the weekend in case he goes ballistic or turns nasty.

I'd suggest that you ask a friend, or family member to accompany you, if you think that he could get nasty. Good luck!

BusyFinch · 15/05/2024 13:11

Further update: photocopies made of all his financials in case he tries to hide assets.

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Busybeemumm · 15/05/2024 13:14

Well done 👍 Keep the ball rolling. You've got this.

BusyFinch · 15/05/2024 13:23

SinnerBoy · 15/05/2024 09:20

BusyFinch · Yesterday 20:16

I want the kids out of the house at their dads and him out of the house away for the weekend in case he goes ballistic or turns nasty.

I'd suggest that you ask a friend, or family member to accompany you, if you think that he could get nasty. Good luck!

My sister lives nearby so any hint of him being aggro I will go to my sisters and file for an occupation order stating he’s threatening me. I think the worst he will do will be to mouth off at me. Plus I will wait until he’s physically left the house for the weekend before I tell him. Hopefully he’ll be miles away before he realises what’s gone on. Also it’s not like I’m emptying the accounts - just taking half and leaving half for him. So there’s not much for him to be angry about - fingers crossed it will be fine.

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Bluetrews25 · 15/05/2024 13:39

Blimey @BusyFinch you are going to be the poster girl for 'how to get rid of your husband and all the bits you will need to do'!
You are amazing
Keep on keeping on
Lots of people are rooting for you and the DCs. 💐