Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Divorce/separation

Here you'll find divorce help and support from other Mners. For legal advice, you may find Advice Now guides useful.

URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

508 replies

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Mumwiththingstodo · 12/05/2024 22:05

Yes, telling people is a good idea as it means he can't try to change your mind/coerce you. Tell the truth, get support, people will be there for you and your children.

Busybeemumm · 12/05/2024 22:07

How did your children react when you told them that he will be leaving?

Bossladywood · 12/05/2024 22:09

Well done. This isn’t an easy thing to do. I’m glad you have done this and now you and your children can settle into a calm peaceful life together xx

GabriellaMontez · 12/05/2024 22:13

Well done. You must be walking on air. And so must your children!

BustyLee · 12/05/2024 22:14

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 22:00

It will be my home office and will be used for my desk etc hooray! Divorce application submitted I find out early June if the court have accepted it.

Yay!! Well done. You are all going to feel so much better now. Luckily it was only 5 years. My friend put up with his nonsense for decades.

Anonymous2025 · 12/05/2024 22:23

No , you should leave him once and for all before you destroy your relationship with your children

Battyfumworts · 12/05/2024 22:24

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:52

Thank you for your replies. I have seen a solicitor who said he would have a claim on the house technically and my best bet would be to offer to pay him a settlement to get him to leave. He is refusing to move out despite me asking him though. What do I practically do?

After each argument I have clearly said to him I cannot live like this and asked what he would be looking for in the event of a divorce. He just says I am emotionally abusing him by repeatedly threatening divorce and will not discuss the terms of a separation with me.

He is abusing your children, kick him out and if he refuses have the police remove him and file a complaint about his behaviour towards your children.

5 years they’ve had to put up with that? Frankly, it’s good that your ex has “indoctrinated” them, it sounds like he’s the only one looking out for them

BlueBlahBlah · 12/05/2024 22:36

Well done OP. Your DC will appreciate that you’ve rid their lives of this man and respect you all the more. Enjoy your life going forward with you and your kids. Good luck with the divorce.

TheFormidableMrsC · 12/05/2024 22:48

So proud of you @BusyFinch. Ignore the shitty holier than thou posters who have not ever experienced something like this. You've been amazing and I hope you and your kids have the happiest of futures. Keep posting as you go through the process. I got a huge amount of support here and a lot of us have experience to help. Flowers

AfraidToRun · 12/05/2024 22:51

You don't need anyones permission to say you're done. If you know it's over, it's over.

Seapsweetsesamethingy · 12/05/2024 22:53

Jesus. Pu your children first. Now.

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 23:00

Busybeemumm · 12/05/2024 22:07

How did your children react when you told them that he will be leaving?

DS was beaming and said it was the right choice and DD was quite subdued asking what would happen about the holiday to Turkey we had booked - I said obvs he will not be coming and just us 3 will go. We then went to spend the afternoon with my family.

OP posts:
sunshinestar1986 · 12/05/2024 23:00

Well done OP 👏
I also left a husband when he was hyper critical of my daughter
It was awful so I can only imagine how ur feeling
I left and literally didn't look back.
My current partner is lovely and treats my daughter with respect and kindness
You gotta wonder, he can't love you if he's not kind to your kids, u know what I mean?

Absolutely ur house is yours
If he lived alone, he would've had to pay rent right?
I dunno about legally but morally he should have some shame and dignity rather than taking money away from you and your kids!
Anyway, onwards and upwards

Henrysotherwoman · 12/05/2024 23:11

You absolutely did the right thing. Good luck moving forward xx

Busybeemumm · 12/05/2024 23:18

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 23:00

DS was beaming and said it was the right choice and DD was quite subdued asking what would happen about the holiday to Turkey we had booked - I said obvs he will not be coming and just us 3 will go. We then went to spend the afternoon with my family.

Thanks for the update. That's lovely to hear your kids are happy and also a confirmation that this is the right decision. Don't let the last 5 years define who you are. In a few years from now it will all seem like a distant memory and remember 'this too shall pass'. You are now making an excellent plan for you and your family for a happier future. Enjoy the holiday with your kids as I'm sure you will all feel much closer as a family. Well done! The hardest part is making the decision and the rest will follow.

NotReallyOnFire · 12/05/2024 23:23

Well done @BusyFinch. That really sounds like a good decision.

Mylittlepea · 12/05/2024 23:28

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

Sorry am very late to this thread but I only got 1/4 through your post and I thought WTH - what an awful man he sounds. Honestly can’t be arsed to read the rest. Leave him….shoot me for not RTFT🤷🏼‍♀️

PaperRhino · 12/05/2024 23:38

He sounds horrible. The fact he is so alienating to your poor kids is in itself appalling but to be honest it doesn’t sound like he is much nicer to you and it sounds as if you don’t like him. Sadly as you are married it is likely he may have a claim on your house too (have been through a vicious divorce myself and my house was in my name but have to sell it in the settlement despite him living in a flat he inherited from his mother, with his girlfriend who has her own 4 bedroom house on the rent).

I would divorce him but please get good legal advice before you make a move.

I am so sorry you are in this position but please don’t stay with such a toxic misery of a man. He sounds utterly selfish.

Wishing you the best of luck in your future xxx

AngryPrincess · 12/05/2024 23:53

Yes.

Fuck, yes.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 13/05/2024 00:15

When is the holiday ?
hopefully he will be well gone by then and your house will be secure ! i.e. the locks changed.

Did you tell your family re your decisions ?

Pupinskipops · 13/05/2024 00:28

Yes.

OhcantthInkofaname · 13/05/2024 00:41

This has been 5 years. You do you realize once your children are grown you probably won't see them again?

Divorce him. In the meantime move his work space to his hobby room!

SoreAndTired1 · 13/05/2024 00:44

Good on you OP. Your children's happiness at the news says it all. All the best for getting a happy and peaceful home back.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 13/05/2024 01:15

Your poor children. If you don't divorce him, they will end up with anxiety issues and they will leave home as soon as they can.

Read updates. well done

Letstrythatagaineh · 13/05/2024 01:27

MorrisZapp · 11/05/2024 22:56

He's never been nice to your kids but you married him? I can't compute this, sorry.

This in spades