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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
theholesinmyapologies · 12/05/2024 21:09

You're doing the right thing. Not just for your kids, but for you. You will feel so much lighter when he goes.

BeLemonQuoter · 12/05/2024 21:18

I grew up with a similar, but biological father. I can't say that I am over the impact of similar emotional abuse after being adult for 20 years.

Get legal advice, ask for help from family, friends to separate and divorce from this man.

You and your family deserves better

Atethehalloweenchocs · 12/05/2024 21:18

Its difficult to balance children from previous relationships and new relationships. Whatever started all of this - your post makes it sound like him but you also mention he has been undermined, etc - what you both want is not compatible and since it sounds really hard for everyone and is getting to the point of hands on, separating is the best option.

PaperDreamsHoney · 12/05/2024 21:21

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 20:30

Yes there certainly are. Some very angry people but I appreciate they care enough to read and respond and ultimately I needed a wake up call

UPDATE: Filed the divorce application online this afternoon and told the kids he will be leaving.

Well done OP. I really hope he goes without a fuss, but please keep your wits about you and be mindful of your safety. If he's going to turn nasty towards you, it'll be now. Do you have people irl who you can talk to about what's going on? For me it made the world of difference knowing that if my ex tried anything, my friends would know what had happened and he wouldn't get away with it.

Busywithsomething · 12/05/2024 21:21

Yes, divorce him.

bignosebignose · 12/05/2024 21:22

As someone who was brought up by a very fine mum and stepdad (while still having a good relationship with my dad), I just wanted to say that you’ve made absolutely the right decision. As others have said, the first five words of your opening post say it all.

Hopelesscase32 · 12/05/2024 21:27

Sorry but I think it's disgusting that you are even debating whether to leave him or not. He's put his hands on one child and the other is worried enough that she feels he wants to hit her. That alone is grounds for divorce.

Bluetrews25 · 12/05/2024 21:28

Shall I divorce him?
Oh please do!
And I'm delighted to see that you are going to do so,
Hope your DCs will be able to sleep better at night when this awful man is gone from all your lives. And you too, OP.
You all deserve better.

Best wishes to you all.

Londonrach1 · 12/05/2024 21:31

Your poor children..why did you marry him.

Singleandfab · 12/05/2024 21:36

Well done OP - we all make good, bad and indifferent choices in life! As you say, it won’t all have been terrible and it’s hard to actually initiate divorce when it’s giving up on a relationship you’ve been in for (over) 5 years. Being a single parent is much easier than being with an adult who makes life harder and so I’ll be thinking of you as you start life on your own again.

Definitely get the locks changed when he is out. Xx

ArrrMeHearties · 12/05/2024 21:38

You and your children deserve to live in your house without treading on eggshells every day. Couple that with physically moving your daughter out the way. That is game over to him being there ever again

tillytown · 12/05/2024 21:48

If your soon to be ex-husband has been bullying your daughter for years now, you should go to family therapy with her. She is probably feeling incredibly let down by you for not kicking him out sooner, which can't be fixed now, but listening to her get everything off her chest will help her and you to try to fix the relationship. The only reason she had to live with that man is because you married him, even if you didn't know what he was like, she'll still blame you for that and for not leaving sooner. It's better to get help now then wait for it all to blow up in a couple of months. And congrats for going through with the divorce.

Aknifewith16blades · 12/05/2024 21:50

Well done OP.

Wouldn't be the worst idea to give Women's Aid a call. The ecconomic abuse (stopping your kids from benefiting from the £ in your household) is concerning; I'd agree with previous posters that you might find what you've seen or your kids have shared in terms of intimidating them could also be the tip of the ice-berg.

Make sure you all have the support you need to be safe, and rebuild from this.

Loopylouie · 12/05/2024 21:50

What in heavens name are you doing with him? It’s a no brainer.

TheBestEverMouse · 12/05/2024 21:51

You're absolutely doing the right thing and ignore the arsehole posters. You're right that shitty marriages don't start shitty. You've chosen your breaking point and once he's out of the house it will feel like a whole weight has been lifted off all of you. Your kids will really appreciate you prioritising them too. The kids do still need to do the things that keep the house nice, but without threats or menacing behaviour to get them to fall into line.

What are you going to do with the study/hobby room now it's yours again?

Mumwiththingstodo · 12/05/2024 21:52

Absolutely you must go! My goodness, I'm genuinely shocked that you are even questioning this, I would assume that he has also managed to abuse you too and that your self esteem must be so low (I mean that with kindness) that you are watching this happen. Please leave or your children's self esteem will be shattered, and they will recognise when they are older that you saw this happening and stayed. You might need to talk to women's aid. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/

nhs.uk

Getting help for domestic violence and abuse

Find out about the signs of domestic violence and abuse, and where to get help. Domestic violence and abuse can happen against women and against men, and anyone can be an abuser.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence

Loopylouie · 12/05/2024 21:54

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 20:30

Yes there certainly are. Some very angry people but I appreciate they care enough to read and respond and ultimately I needed a wake up call

UPDATE: Filed the divorce application online this afternoon and told the kids he will be leaving.

Well done !! Good luck OP!

Mumwiththingstodo · 12/05/2024 21:55

Well done! Your children will see your strength in leaving! Whwt an awful man. Good luck with making a better future for yourself and children. Get help for yourself and your children if needed! Citizens Advice can help with everything from finances, legal (such as evicting him if the children are in danger) or mental health support. Young Minds is a good place too. https://www.youngminds.org.uk/parent/parents-a-z-mental-health-guide/abuse/

Loubelle70 · 12/05/2024 21:58

I work at at Womens Aid, we can support you if you want it. Please give us a ring or chat via our website. Well done for taking that positive step for yourself and your kids xxx

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 22:00

TheBestEverMouse · 12/05/2024 21:51

You're absolutely doing the right thing and ignore the arsehole posters. You're right that shitty marriages don't start shitty. You've chosen your breaking point and once he's out of the house it will feel like a whole weight has been lifted off all of you. Your kids will really appreciate you prioritising them too. The kids do still need to do the things that keep the house nice, but without threats or menacing behaviour to get them to fall into line.

What are you going to do with the study/hobby room now it's yours again?

It will be my home office and will be used for my desk etc hooray! Divorce application submitted I find out early June if the court have accepted it.

OP posts:
DarkDarkNight · 12/05/2024 22:01

So happy to hear this. You and your children will be 100% happier without him in your lives.

BustyLee · 12/05/2024 22:02

LTFB. Those kids have put up other a lot for you. You now owe them a happier time. How dare he threaten your daughter?

Skodacool · 12/05/2024 22:02

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there)

He shouldn’t have been allowed to do this. What kind of life is this for your children?

GameOfJones · 12/05/2024 22:02

I would start telling friends and family to set the wheels in motion. Hopefully it'll spur him on to get out.

Busybeemumm · 12/05/2024 22:05

Well done please keep moving forward. He will put obstacles in the way at every stage -maybe state he wants therapy, be sorry or love bombing. Keep your wits about you. Women are most vulnerable when leaving abusers. Call women's aid for advice about your and children's safety. Please write everything down, read this post to yourself if you ever have moments of doubt and finish with him. Your children won't ever have to see him again 😊