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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
Helen1625 · 12/05/2024 18:44

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

So sorry that you and your children are going through this. Well done for making the right decision and for being brave enough to see it through. That must have taken a lot of guts. People can always make comments about what you should and shouldn't do but they're not the ones in your shoes and living with the consequences.

Hope all goes well for you. All the best x

Mummy2024 · 12/05/2024 18:55

BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

I wanted to add without his name on the deeds he has no legal right to stay. In theory you could call the police and have him removed. I would just make clear if he doesn't leave quietly you will be forced to call the police, which you would rather avoid but will do if you have too. If this is really something you would rather avoid, take him to court over possesion the house. Your more likely to get possession than him being the legal owner and the kids needing a house etc. I'd advise seeing a decent solicitor or calling one for advice.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 12/05/2024 19:13

Gettingbysomehow · 12/05/2024 09:35

Do you really need to ask? Get him out now. Don't pay back anything. His contribution has been rent. You don't pay rent back when someone leaves.
My stepfather treated me like this and my mother didn't do anything.
I no longer see or speak to my mother. She put her own happiness before mine. That man destroyed my life. Is this what you want for your kids? You owe them a huge apology.

Actually my stepdad treated me and DB similarly (actually hitting us on a regular basis but apparently DM never knew and we didn’t tell her). Luckily they never married and stepdad has now mellowed but I do wonder about DM letting him into our lives after shortly divorcing our alcoholic real father.

Luckily DM told me recently the main family house is in her sole name (she has other priories with me and DB which she rents out) though she does half own a house in France with stepdad.

Starlight7080 · 12/05/2024 19:15

I couldn't even read it all, what is wrong with you ?. Let the kids dad have them full time. They will avoid you once they move out anyway .
You never should have married him . And you certainly should not have stayed with him when he obviously dislikes your children .
If its a money reason then downsize go on uc or whatever . The kids will prefer a nice home life over money

TheCodingClubClub · 12/05/2024 19:18

Why have you subjected your children to this?

Deathraystare · 12/05/2024 19:24

@BusyFinch

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking

And there we have it! Why, just why? You must have known early on what he was like. Where you hoping he would warm to them like your kids were puppies?

This is very sad and all too common.

Lifeomars · 12/05/2024 19:25

He's vile, the things he accuses your kids of are just normal, usual behaviour. Get out asap

Deathraystare · 12/05/2024 19:25

Oh and when you divorce, have a really long think before you add yet another suitable man to your poor family.

Deathraystare · 12/05/2024 19:25

Unsuitable, of course!

Justgorgeous · 12/05/2024 19:28

Wishing you all the best. X

Allofaflutter · 12/05/2024 19:29

The longer he is there the bigger the percentage of the house he will get. Call the police tell them how he is emotionally abusing the children and putting hands on them and ask them to remove him.

CoffeeLover90 · 12/05/2024 19:29

Your children will be so proud of you, especially when they're older.
Reminds me a lot of my step father, mum didn't divorce him, I left home as a teen. I'm ashamed of her cowardice. I'm sad I was second best to a man.
Your kids are so lucky. And you're setting a great example here, yes everyone makes mistake, you're putting it right now. That's to be applauded.

CyanBird · 12/05/2024 19:29

Why the hell are you subjecting your children to this bully? You are failing them. End it now.

Starzinsky · 12/05/2024 19:44

It's not fair on the kids to be in this situation. They have to come first and you know that staying with your husband is not the environment for them to be living in.

NotARealWookiie · 12/05/2024 19:47

I’ve only read your updates and I’m so glad you are divorcing him. It was all in the first paragraph of your OP for me - my husband hates my kids, he’s lived with them for 5 years and has no relationship with them. That’s not a healthy environment and well done for taking action. I hope he leaves fairly quickly and isn’t too much of a gold digger.

VictoriaEra2 · 12/05/2024 19:57

Please leave. Your poor children. Please, please leave.

Animatic · 12/05/2024 20:03

How did u manage to marry him with all above? Shouldn't your children be a priority?

Irishdragon · 12/05/2024 20:03

Absolutely divorce him, he is making everyone’s life hell . He will only get worse, you can get an order from the court to get him out !!

GreekDogRescue · 12/05/2024 20:05

thanKyouaIMee · 11/05/2024 22:42

Leave! He's put hands on your children? 100% leave and don't look back.

Speak to a professional about the house / divorce / what would happen, and go into it with the facts.

It doesn't matter if he says he doesn't want a divorce, if you do, you can sort it.

Why should she leave? It’s her house and she and her kids would be homeless!

Animatic · 12/05/2024 20:06

Just to add, after re-reading the full OP, you made yours and your children's lives truly miserable for 5 (!!) Years. Is it all to have a d*& in house? Is there anything positive about this man?

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 12/05/2024 20:06

So very glad you've decided to put your DC first. Congratulations! Life can only get better. 😃

Cupofteaandbiscuits · 12/05/2024 20:09

Have my second ever LTB!

Tickytocky · 12/05/2024 20:13

I only read header & first line - LTB

No way keep your kids around him it’s not worth any price xx

YourWildAmberSloth · 12/05/2024 20:16

Timeforsnacks · 12/05/2024 17:35

Your kids will be so proud of you for doing this, well done. I agree that no matter how much money he takes it will still be worth doing. Well done for not backing down over the day of him moving out

I don't think they'll be proud. Relieved yes, but more likely angry and resentful towards her. I am glad that she has finally done the right thing, my concern is that OP will assume that divorcing him will make everything okay, and underestimate the impact of her choices.

SwimmingSnake · 12/05/2024 20:19

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