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URGENT: Shall I Divorce Him?

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BusyFinch · 11/05/2024 22:38

My Husband hates my children (they’re not our kids together they are my children from a previous marriage and are pre teen / early teen secondary school age. He is hypercritical of them and is super picky about everything they do. He has no or next to no relationship with them despite the fact that he has been living under the same roof as them for last 5 years. His criticisms are especially focused upon my daughter who is my youngest and a typical pre teen. Messy and answers back a lot. He is constantly on high alert always telling me things she’s done wrong.

For example today - not using her knife only using her fork at dinner , hanging her sports medals on her wardrobe door handle because they swing when she opens and closes the door it risks damaging the wardrobe door apparently, talking back to me, using her phone at the dinner table (showing me a mug cake she wanted us to make for her pudding), being on her phone too much generally, having too many items of cosmetics and it causing the kids bathroom to be messy and this is a relatively ‘light’ day in terms of his complaints. We have been out all day and this has all been between 4 and 9pm today. Some days there will be constant complaints all day.

For example: as soon as the kids get back from school they’re being too loud (he works from home in the living room as he has used the study as his hobby room so can’t fit a desk in there), kids have not taken their school bags immediately up to their rooms, not put their shoes neatly on the hall mat, had a snack at the table and left crumbs, not pushed the dining room chair in when getting up, not cleared the table after their snack, not put the snack stuff in the dishwasher to his liking, stomped up the stairs too loud, ran up stairs, worn shoes in the house, got water on the floor or too much water around sink in bathroom and this will all be in the 30 mins or so after the kids get in from school - this continues in a similar vein every hour of the day he is in the house with the kids.

In the first years or our marriage I tried to get the kids to do things to his liking but a couple of weeks ago I could no longer stand his constant petty ridiculous nitpicking of my kids and told him if he didn’t lay off them we were getting divorced.

He has never really tried to form any sort of relationship with my kids. They dislike him and tolerate him at absolute best. My ex husband (the kids dad) has indoctrinated the kids telling them they don’t have to listen to my husband which only makes things worse.

My husband and I are arguing about this on a daily basis. He is a negative, chronic complainer and doesn’t see the good in the world or in people in general. He is basically a miserable person. He hates his job and complains about that too. He dropped from full time to 4 days a week last year, but he is as miserable as ever.

A couple of months back after a family walk my daughter was sat in my car boot getting her muddy wellies off. He told her to get out of the boot so as not to get it muddy. She reasoned that her muddy boots were hung over the edge of the car boot. He was infuriated at her for talking back and literally physically removed her from the boot of my car - quite roughly too. I was shocked and have since been spending a lot of time considering leaving him.

My daughter had told me previously that he gets really angry with her when I am not there eg about leaving her room messy and she feels he wants to hit her that is how furious he appears to her. He never has hit her, just been cross with her but it has clearly scared her.

My son has basically figured out that he needs to not speak back and to not question my husband about stuff and he is generally a less confrontational child and so doesn’t get targeted by my husband as much as my daughter. A few years ago however my son was on the receiving end of exactly what my daughter is now I once went into my sons room and found my husband had hold of him on both shoulders - my husband said my son had tried to kick/lash out at him - this was years ago now and has not occurred again. I told my husband I would not tolerate this and that it would be over if he ever did anything like that again.

I am literally at the point where I cannot relax in my own home with the kids as I am just always waiting for the next negative comment or criticism to come from my husband. He literally hates all the world. Do I divorce him?

The house is in my sole name but he’s been here for 5 years so presumably would have some claim on it in the event of a divorce?

He constantly moans about the fact that he has to pay towards the mortgage from our joint back account without any ownership of the property. He often moans about the cost of raising my kids and how it costs much more than the child maintenance my ex husband pays. He moans about how much I spend (I am the main breadwinner). I do not live lavishly but literally every time I take the kids out anywhere that costs anything he will comment on it. I have not had a proper holiday with my kids in 5 years (we have been going camping or renting an air bnb with friends in the uk as he has been saying he doesn’t want to go on holiday with the kids he would rather just go with me and it would cost too much to do 2 holidays so either he and I have a holiday together or the kids and I do - I have ignored this and booked the above holidays for the kids and I every year anyway. He doesn’t come with us and will book a cottage in the uk for one week a year for him and me which I don’t enjoy as I am basically a cook on holiday he will just complain about having to eat out too much. Last year I told him I was booking an all inclusive in 2025 for the kids and I and he could come if he liked which he has agreed to - but I literally had to fight to get him to listen to what I wanted)

Financially I could manage without him as I work practically full time plus I get child maintenance from my ex.

Question is do I divorce him? And if I do what happens to my house? Shall I offer to pay him back whatever he has spent on my house so far just to make him more likely to leave without a fuss. I have asked him to move out and he has said no. He says he does not want a divorce, but I have so much anger, sadness and resentment about how the kids and I have been living in this bloody war zone for the last 5 years I cannot see any other way forward. Thank you so much for reading and any advice would be very gratefully received.

OP posts:
cerisepanther73 · 12/05/2024 15:53

@BusyFinch

Is or was your father an pschological abusive 🤔 shit arsehole too?

Just wondering...

As It would go along way to explaining why you were acctracted to this one in the first place,

Get Therapy ....

maddiemookins16mum · 12/05/2024 15:56

Now I was prepared before reading this to say that (sometimes) some step kids (and step parents) can really be hard work, it’s a tricky dynamic and there are two sides to every story.

BUT, flippin eck Benny, this is just awful.

Have my first ever LTB. Your children will thank you.

NotSentFromIphone · 12/05/2024 16:45

You need to leave otherwise you'll be back on here in a few years time wondering why your kids all left home at 16, went either no contact or low contact with you and you never get to see your Grandchildren.

Garlicnaan · 12/05/2024 16:56

Well done OP, stay strong and get him out!!

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ilovesushi · 12/05/2024 16:57

Yes. Leave him. Do you even need to ask?

fuzzwuss · 12/05/2024 16:57

the simple answer is yes. Leave him and leave him now. He is emotionally abusing your children and this will escalate, or has already escalated, into physical abuse.

livingfreedom · 12/05/2024 16:58

Why the fuck did you marry him you must have seen some of his behaviour before the wedding.
As poster said above your kids will leave and go low or no contact in the end.

Delphinium20 · 12/05/2024 17:00

OP, best of luck to you and the children. I'm actually pretty impressed with how fast and firmly you ended this. You still have a lot to do, but this massive big step has been taken and now you and your children will find peace.

PaperDreamsHoney · 12/05/2024 17:02

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 07:24

Update 2: He’s saying end of month isn’t enough time for him to move out. I’ve told him it’s happening by the end of the month and I will get an occupation order if he doesn’t go.

I have been here. My ex did exactly the same and I I guarantee he's stalling. He's not going to go willingly. You need an occupation order.

blueandgreenandyellow · 12/05/2024 17:03

This is quite clear cut if you prioritise you children's well being
Leave

EightChalk · 12/05/2024 17:07

If your children ever talk to you about this time in their lives and how it affected them, do not repeat either of these things if you want to keep a relationship with them:

we all make shitty choices from time to time

I know I’ve made a massive mistake with this marriage and I am hugely beating myself up about it

Serious minimisation of 5 years.

Kesio · 12/05/2024 17:10

Get him out. Your dc need a home in which they can relax and not worry about anything. I’d say to get this man out even if he was their dad.

Our home was much better when my dad left.

lovescats3 · 12/05/2024 17:11

Time to lawyer up

ukseamaiden · 12/05/2024 17:13

Question is - why have you put up with this insufferable, child hating man for so long? He's making you feel uncomfortable in YOUR home, scaring and berating your kids over nonsense and makes absolutely no effort with them. Your kids might end up with anxiety in the future. Boot the b-stard out!

ukseamaiden · 12/05/2024 17:14

blueandgreenandyellow · 12/05/2024 17:03

This is quite clear cut if you prioritise you children's well being
Leave

It's HER house!

Dazedandconfusedma · 12/05/2024 17:16

I can’t see a single reason why you should stay with him? He sounds like a horrible drain that is intent on bringing everyone down with him. Put yourself and the kids first and leave him.

CactusSammy · 12/05/2024 17:17

He sounds awful, im surprised you have stuck it this long.
Get shot of him, so you and your kids can enjoy your lives. If you stay, you will look back and regret having spent your kids childhood inflicting him on them and you

thebestinterest · 12/05/2024 17:18

Kindly, OP… listen to
me.

Your utmost priority is the well-being of your children. All of them.

teenage years are critical to self esteem. Know that if you choose to stay with this man you may end up paying the price in the form of adult children who are either distant, or resentful of you. Mothers ALWAYS bear the brunt of this.

There’s nothing more important to me than the well rounded well-being of my child and our relationship. Nothing.

BreadInCaptivity · 12/05/2024 17:25

It's good to hear you've made the decision you have OP. He sounds utterly insufferable.

You and your children will be so much better off without him.

I think people criticising you don't really grasp how relationships that start well can deteriorate in such small increments that you become used to abnormal behaviour, until suddenly there are some events in quick succession and you wake up and think how the hell did that happen/how have I put up with this?

Definitely get legal advice on how to get rid of him with the least possible effort/financial payout. Don't just kick him to the curb and give him ammunition to use against you.

Legal fees are expensive but they are the best investment you can make in this situation.

crumpet · 12/05/2024 17:26

Money for mortgage- he would have had to pay rent somewhere anyway if he wasn’t living with you. Unless what he was paying way over what he’d have paid in rent anyway, just ignore him

JanetareyouokareyouokJanet · 12/05/2024 17:29

I hope it all goes well for you and your children. Brave decision, life will be much better for you all.

0w1 · 12/05/2024 17:32

BusyFinch · 12/05/2024 02:13

Update, spoke to him and told him it’s over. He’s agreed to move out. I’ve said he’s got till the end of the month to go. Will see solicitor Monday. Feels like a weight off. Thank you all for your replies and for those that posted support thank you - we all make shitty choices from time to time. It takes grace not to kick someone when they’re down. For those that showed that to me thank you.

Congratulations on being so strong. I left with a rucksack and two toddlers. I know it's easy to type and hard to execute. Your children will know now that there is somebody IN THEIR CORNER.

XXX

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 12/05/2024 17:33

Absolutely leave him.

Timeforsnacks · 12/05/2024 17:35

Your kids will be so proud of you for doing this, well done. I agree that no matter how much money he takes it will still be worth doing. Well done for not backing down over the day of him moving out