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Husband has met someone else

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AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 00:48

So this evening, my husband told me he’s ‘met’ someone else. We’ve been married 15 years this year. 2 children (11&9).

Our relationship hasn’t been great for a couple of years. He struggles with his mental health, there have been numerous gaps in our household (both work but I do majority of household/mental load). I know I’ve let resentment build in this time and haven’t fully communicated it as he can get quite defensive when asked to share the load and can then have a spell where he doesn’t get out of bed for a couple of days so I end up doing it all myself anyway. I’ve found it tough feeling I can’t be ill/break down as I can’t rely on him to pick up the load.

This time last year, as a household, we were bringing in £110k so quite a comfortable lifestyle although we live in the south east and have a large mortgage. In September he had a major breakdown (apparently due to work stress) was signed off sick for 4 months and started a new job 6 weeks ago with a 50% pay cut. During this time I’ve had the stress of working, juggling the finances whilst he was off sick and dealing with the children whilst he focused on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover. Apart from my family, only a couple of other people have asked me if I’m ok.

This evening, he’s told me he’s met someone else. Someone he’s been friends with for a while (mainly online) but feelings have developed over the past few weeks. He said he was out with her last night (he told me he was having a uni mate reunion), they’ve kissed but not had sex.

I was shocked and didn’t ask loads of questions as couldn’t quite get my head round it all. I know things haven’t been great between us but I think I’m burnt out and haven’t had the mental capacity to tackle that as a priority amongst everything else that has been going on. Separating would break my kids hearts and we’d have to sell our house and downsize and I’m not even sure either of us would be able to buy our own houses given the cost of houses here.

In our chat, he did say that this other woman lives 3hrs away so it’s not like he’s planning on moving in with her (she is divorced and has a young child too).He said he doesn’t want a divorce and thinks we could live together with the boys but I really don’t think I could do that. I feel like he wants his housemaid (me) here to run the household, support him financially (now that he’s taken a 50% paycut) whilst he has a long distance with occasional meet up affair.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him. I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown. If we do separate, I’m now the higher earner (since he’s given up his professional career) and have local family support so will be best placed to set up with the kids. I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

I plan on talking to my sister tomorrow but can’t face telling my parents yet. Don’t know whether I should be pretending all is ok for a while and see how things pan out over the next few weeks. Don’t know whether I should be fighting and say we should have counselling to see if we can get back on track or if we’ve passed the point of no return. Don’t know whether I should agree to remain in the household for the kids and financial stability. Or whether I should demand a divorce, sell the house, split the assets and start again, knowing that we’d both struggle to buy a house on a single income and our kids lifestyles would be dramatically changed.

I’m not planning on making a rash decision. He said I could go away and have some space or he would go for a few days if I wanted him to. It’s half term here so the kids would ask questions if one of us wasn’t around.

Any advice on next steps?

OP posts:
BlueGrey1 · 19/02/2024 18:35

First of all say you want him to stay somewhere else for the time being as you can’t stand the sight of him and need time to think…….living somewhere else will also give him an idea of what his future might be like as there are no guarantees this other woman will want him when she finds out what he is like

Stop financing him and doing household things for him immediately

If he moves out then you can think about this situation with more clarity and make a decision

I couldn’t have him in the house after what he told you and the kids will pick up that there is something wrong, if he moves out you can initially say he has gone away on some work training course

Start secretly recording Important conversations that you may need in the future

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/02/2024 18:36

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 18:21

He planned all of this. He reduced his work and claimed ill just so you would be the higher earner. I would contact a lawyer ASAP, the best one you can afford. Do not agree to any financial or other arrangements, not even verbally, until you get a lawyer. This man is trying to fleece you and fuck you over on top of cheating.

I suspect this, too.

Molecule · 19/02/2024 18:42

I just want to say there is never a good time to separate once you have children. I was married to an abusive cock lodger (abuse started once I ceased to be the goose that laid the golden eggs), but with four dc there was always one changing schools, taking GCSEs etc. Finally, one Easter, he raped me and I could no longer continue. DD3 was about to sit her A levels, Ds his GCSEs - both did remarkably well despite the turmoil at home, and dd3 always says how much more stable and happy things are now.

It’s a horrid time, very difficult to think straight but you will get through it.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:44

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/02/2024 18:34

Why would he get more of the kids?

He can't even look after them with OP's support.

Working less. More time to spend with kids.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:44

Floralnomad · 19/02/2024 18:33

The most the OP would have to agree to is 50/50 , no one can ‘make’ her have her children less than that .

I think you’ll find that the family court really can, happened to me I ended up with 30%.

NewJeans · 19/02/2024 18:45

samarrange · 19/02/2024 10:00

I'm wondering why he mentioned that he's met someone, when he didn't have to. "I've met someone and I'm leaving you" would make sense. Him owning up if you found texts to her on his phone would make sense. But spontaneously saying "I've met someone and we might be about to start having sex, but I don't want to split up" really doesn't. Whether or not they have had sex is almost irrelevant, it's about what he chose to say.

It seems to me that he's been quite a lot less of a bastard than he could have been, and I wonder if there might not be a little bit of space to fix this before it goes too far, if OP wants to try of course.

This ⬆️ is what he wants her to think.

Oh at least he's not leaving me.
At least he hasn't admitted he's cheated.
I'll accept the crumbs he's offering by him staying, the crumb of being able to say I'm still married.
At least he "only" wants an open relationship, with everything else carrying on as before.

Yes ok DH, go away for a few days on your dirty weekend with the OW while I think about how ground down I've become that I'll accept this.

OP do take him up on his offer for him to go away for a few days and do as others have said re solicitor, digging into finances, getting house valued. Do ask your friends to take DC while you do this. I'd happily take a DC out for the day to help a friend in this situation.

This has been going on longer than you think, he's already sleeping with her and now wants to go away for a few days with her. "Met someone else" = having an affair. He isn't risking dismantling his marriage for someone he's literally met only once and shared one chaste kiss with. He's had 4 months of DC at school and you at work to sneak around seeing her behind your back. 3hrs is nothing, especially if they met in the middle so only 1 1/2 hour driving each.

There is never a good time to tell DC, so it may as well be now.

PaminaMozart · 19/02/2024 18:46

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 18:21

He planned all of this. He reduced his work and claimed ill just so you would be the higher earner. I would contact a lawyer ASAP, the best one you can afford. Do not agree to any financial or other arrangements, not even verbally, until you get a lawyer. This man is trying to fleece you and fuck you over on top of cheating.

I agree. @AnnaP81 , you need an excellent family solicitor.

Can you also collect evidence of him focusing on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover - instead of meeting his parental, childcare and household responsibilities?

If you keep your cool and focus on the practicalities you can win.

TBEITBN · 19/02/2024 18:46

What an irredeemable prick.

Shetlands · 19/02/2024 18:46

GabriellaMontez · 19/02/2024 18:14

The op describes herself as working and being the main earner but also

dealing with the children whilst he focused on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover

And describes him spending days at a time in bed.

How could he possibly be a 50/50 parent?

Exactly, and I wouldn't want such a mentally fragile man in charge of my children's welfare 50% of the time. He's shown he crumbles under stress (whether genuine or faked) so I wouldn't consider him fit enough. The suicide threats would be a worry for a family court I would imagine.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:47

PaminaMozart · 19/02/2024 18:46

I agree. @AnnaP81 , you need an excellent family solicitor.

Can you also collect evidence of him focusing on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover - instead of meeting his parental, childcare and household responsibilities?

If you keep your cool and focus on the practicalities you can win.

What on earth is wrong with you - people do have mental health break downs you know, they are a real thing.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:48

Shetlands · 19/02/2024 18:46

Exactly, and I wouldn't want such a mentally fragile man in charge of my children's welfare 50% of the time. He's shown he crumbles under stress (whether genuine or faked) so I wouldn't consider him fit enough. The suicide threats would be a worry for a family court I would imagine.

It definitely isn’t. Again, been there, done that, they don’t care.

MiniPumpkin · 19/02/2024 18:51

Think it’s time to call it quits. Meeting someone else would be the final straw for me I’d say. You’ve done very well to keep it all together and taking on all of this while he ‘recovers’.
hope things work out for you x

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 18:53

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:47

What on earth is wrong with you - people do have mental health break downs you know, they are a real thing.

people that are actually having breakdowns don't go and cheat. They feel guilty for what they couldn't contribute and try to make up for it.

Shetlands · 19/02/2024 18:54

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:48

It definitely isn’t. Again, been there, done that, they don’t care.

I'm so sorry that it didn't work out well for you. Maybe it just depends on the individual people you're dealing with? For example, I know an unmarried couple where the father only had supervised access to the children for about six months due to his proclamations of mental health issues before they split up. He had to jump through a lot of hoops to prove he was mentally stable before he could have the children by himself and now the access is just every other weekend.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:55

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 18:53

people that are actually having breakdowns don't go and cheat. They feel guilty for what they couldn't contribute and try to make up for it.

No, they quite often literally cheat and otherwise detonate their lives. It’s like the top of the list, have you never gone through or known anyone with any mental health crisis?

Katbum · 19/02/2024 18:55

go straight to chumplady.con, read through the archives. Then dump this drain on your life and move on.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 19/02/2024 18:58

AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 09:33

Thanks for all the advice. Had a fitful night of sleep. Am taking the boys out with friends today so will be getting out the house before speaking to my sister later.

I think you’ve confirmed what I know. That it’s over and I need to get my ducks in a row. I don’t think he’ll move out the house so will need to see how we separate within the household initially.

I know I can do this on my own - my Mum has commented in the past about what he brings to the family and my life will be easier without him. She’s held her tongue before but pretty sure she won’t going forward!

I’m just struggling with the uncertainty for the kids and the best time to tell them. Oldest is in yr6 so has Sats, school residential coming up but then has the transition to secondary school to deal with. I feel he’ll take it badly as he’s just finding some independence but will be having his home life changed so much.

Your DS will be OK, kids are resiliant, mine coped with his Dad dying a week after he left year 6 and before he started a secondary school where he didnt know anyone, keep talking to them, asking them if they are OK, you will all be OK

CountessWindyBottom · 19/02/2024 18:58

Didn't want to read and run. Huge hugs to you @AnnaP81. 💐What a kick in the teeth for you.

In all honesty it sounds like you have been parenting solo for quite some time so if there is nothing to salvage I would invoke the help of a good solicitor and get the ball rolling.

I'd put money on it that he'll be back begging you for mercy in a matter of weeks/months. Just like with his job, these people who constantly think the grass is always greener end up terminally unhappy.

PaminaMozart · 19/02/2024 18:59

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:55

No, they quite often literally cheat and otherwise detonate their lives. It’s like the top of the list, have you never gone through or known anyone with any mental health crisis?

I think you'd better start your own thread instead of trying to derail this one. There is clear evidence that the OP's husband is planning to leave her for another woman. She has enough on her plate - she needs solid advice and support, not people's projections based on unrelated circumstances.

babyproblems · 19/02/2024 19:00

Op he’s not a good partner. In fact he’s not behaved like your partner at all. You are carrying him through life.. and it’s not helping you. He doesn’t sound worth the effort of trying to repair this imo. Your children are old enough to see he is useless and not an attribute to your family unit. And I say this not even taking into account he has ‘met someone else’ whatever the F that means.

you deserve so so so much more. Wishing you lots of luck xxx

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 19:03

PaminaMozart · 19/02/2024 18:59

I think you'd better start your own thread instead of trying to derail this one. There is clear evidence that the OP's husband is planning to leave her for another woman. She has enough on her plate - she needs solid advice and support, not people's projections based on unrelated circumstances.

There is evidence that could be happening. But if that was really the case then it would be a lot more organised and controlling than it is.

right now I see evidence of a man who is having a mental health crisis and might be throwing away the most important things in his life, as well as his security and future, because he’s not got the help he needed.

we’re judging someone based off of a couple of paragraphs from one view point and frankly a lot of the advice has been bitter, hostile, biased and frankly crap.

I hope this couple get what they need and I really think starting with a therapist or councillor even if they consult is the right thing. There is too much at stake for hot heads to give poor advice.

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 19:03

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:55

No, they quite often literally cheat and otherwise detonate their lives. It’s like the top of the list, have you never gone through or known anyone with any mental health crisis?

I have about 1 day out of every 3-4 months where I am not depressed. There are multiple days a week that I dont want to do anything except stare at the ceiling and cry. But I have children. That count on me. I have never cheated. I eat too much. In younger days I attempted things several times. I know very well what it is like. I also know that some people get to cheat and treat others like shit and some of us don't get to. I have even vacillated between thinking of a future of do I just live in a tiny apartment with the kids grown or do I just finish what I didn't as a younger person. My son will likely still need full time care as an adult, so I guess there is my decision made. But I will probably still neglect most of myself during this time. If he passes before me, most likely the thoughts to give up will be just as strong, but without the responsibilities that have kept me here. So, yes. I do know.

BruFord · 19/02/2024 19:04

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 18:55

No, they quite often literally cheat and otherwise detonate their lives. It’s like the top of the list, have you never gone through or known anyone with any mental health crisis?

@AlphariusOmegron Thay doesn’t mean that their partners should just passively take it though, does it? If someone cheats during a mental health crisis, they're still cheating. The OP’s husband may be depressed, but it doesn’t give him a free pass to cheat on her and still expect her to be supportive.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 19:05

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 19:03

I have about 1 day out of every 3-4 months where I am not depressed. There are multiple days a week that I dont want to do anything except stare at the ceiling and cry. But I have children. That count on me. I have never cheated. I eat too much. In younger days I attempted things several times. I know very well what it is like. I also know that some people get to cheat and treat others like shit and some of us don't get to. I have even vacillated between thinking of a future of do I just live in a tiny apartment with the kids grown or do I just finish what I didn't as a younger person. My son will likely still need full time care as an adult, so I guess there is my decision made. But I will probably still neglect most of myself during this time. If he passes before me, most likely the thoughts to give up will be just as strong, but without the responsibilities that have kept me here. So, yes. I do know.

This might amaze you but different people act in very different ways?

maybe your singular biased view point is not enough to judge typical or common behaviour?

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 19:06

BruFord · 19/02/2024 19:04

@AlphariusOmegron Thay doesn’t mean that their partners should just passively take it though, does it? If someone cheats during a mental health crisis, they're still cheating. The OP’s husband may be depressed, but it doesn’t give him a free pass to cheat on her and still expect her to be supportive.

Absolutely, 10,000% no. That’s why I think they need professional help even if the end result is splitting up.

the hot headed advice given in the last 10 pages is frankly appalling.