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Husband has met someone else

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AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 00:48

So this evening, my husband told me he’s ‘met’ someone else. We’ve been married 15 years this year. 2 children (11&9).

Our relationship hasn’t been great for a couple of years. He struggles with his mental health, there have been numerous gaps in our household (both work but I do majority of household/mental load). I know I’ve let resentment build in this time and haven’t fully communicated it as he can get quite defensive when asked to share the load and can then have a spell where he doesn’t get out of bed for a couple of days so I end up doing it all myself anyway. I’ve found it tough feeling I can’t be ill/break down as I can’t rely on him to pick up the load.

This time last year, as a household, we were bringing in £110k so quite a comfortable lifestyle although we live in the south east and have a large mortgage. In September he had a major breakdown (apparently due to work stress) was signed off sick for 4 months and started a new job 6 weeks ago with a 50% pay cut. During this time I’ve had the stress of working, juggling the finances whilst he was off sick and dealing with the children whilst he focused on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover. Apart from my family, only a couple of other people have asked me if I’m ok.

This evening, he’s told me he’s met someone else. Someone he’s been friends with for a while (mainly online) but feelings have developed over the past few weeks. He said he was out with her last night (he told me he was having a uni mate reunion), they’ve kissed but not had sex.

I was shocked and didn’t ask loads of questions as couldn’t quite get my head round it all. I know things haven’t been great between us but I think I’m burnt out and haven’t had the mental capacity to tackle that as a priority amongst everything else that has been going on. Separating would break my kids hearts and we’d have to sell our house and downsize and I’m not even sure either of us would be able to buy our own houses given the cost of houses here.

In our chat, he did say that this other woman lives 3hrs away so it’s not like he’s planning on moving in with her (she is divorced and has a young child too).He said he doesn’t want a divorce and thinks we could live together with the boys but I really don’t think I could do that. I feel like he wants his housemaid (me) here to run the household, support him financially (now that he’s taken a 50% paycut) whilst he has a long distance with occasional meet up affair.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him. I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown. If we do separate, I’m now the higher earner (since he’s given up his professional career) and have local family support so will be best placed to set up with the kids. I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

I plan on talking to my sister tomorrow but can’t face telling my parents yet. Don’t know whether I should be pretending all is ok for a while and see how things pan out over the next few weeks. Don’t know whether I should be fighting and say we should have counselling to see if we can get back on track or if we’ve passed the point of no return. Don’t know whether I should agree to remain in the household for the kids and financial stability. Or whether I should demand a divorce, sell the house, split the assets and start again, knowing that we’d both struggle to buy a house on a single income and our kids lifestyles would be dramatically changed.

I’m not planning on making a rash decision. He said I could go away and have some space or he would go for a few days if I wanted him to. It’s half term here so the kids would ask questions if one of us wasn’t around.

Any advice on next steps?

OP posts:
AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:05

Xenoi24 · 19/02/2024 22:00

You're talking shite but you seem to have missed out one crucial factor .....

He doesn't even want to continue the marriage, he doesn't want to stay with op. He only wants to cohabit for his convenience while pursuing this other relationship.

So saying "everyone cheats" (they don't) and therefore that people shouldn't divorce adulterous spouses and should go to joint counselling is totally irrelevant.... Because he doesn't want to stay in the marriage, he wants out (but just not to sell up and live on his own or with the ow yet).

Edited

I said the vast majority cheats and all the stats world wide back that up. If it’s not you it’s your partner….

I’ve also said that what they need to do is get help to untangle everything f and consciously uncouple if that’s what they need to do for everyone’s best outcome.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:05

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 22:01

You don't get a pass on cheating because of mental illness.

No it doesn’t give you a pass for anything. But it does give you a reason

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:06

Merrymouse · 19/02/2024 22:08

The OP is obviously free to ignore any advice on MN, but you don’t seem to have noticed that the OP isn’t happy in her marriage and her husband has no interest in saving the relationship.

I’ve noticed all of that. It’s why I said they need better help than ten pages of people saying “ditch the prick and burn his suits”.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:07

Direstraightsagain · 19/02/2024 22:47

Who do you hang out with 🤣

Human beings. If you have a different story then you hang it with humans who lie to you.

the vast majority of people “cheat”. Vast.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:09

Xenoi24 · 19/02/2024 22:05

Seems like somebody needs to take their meds.

Well that is bitchy 😇

anothermnuser123 · 19/02/2024 23:27

Xenoi24 · 19/02/2024 21:52

everybody cheats. Everybody, now in the future on in the past. And those who don’t are about to. In bigger ways

Bonkers.

Im baffled people are still replying to this person. According to them, everyone cheats, everyone is going to have a mental health breakdown. And when the cheating happens, you just have to ignore it.

Its clear the morals of this person, they are a cheat so think everyone must be. They have mental health issues, so everyone must. They think its an excuse to do what they like, therefore its all excuses and all must be forgiven.

Back in the real world, people are entitled to leave when they are cheated on whilst carrying the load, looking after the finances, house, children etc. no one has to tolerate being treated like that, no matter the excuse.

The derailment by the person who thinks its fine to cheat and excuse it on a breakdown needs to be ignored, its quite clear their view is shaped based on their own loose morals.

Stripedbowtie · 19/02/2024 23:36

Aquamarine1029 · 19/02/2024 00:57

Your next step should be tossing all of his shit to the kerb.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him.

Ask him to take a long walk off a shirt pier.

I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown.

A breakdown of his morals, yes.

I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

Of course he's mentioned suicide in the past, it's play #1 in the Twat's Handbook for Manipulating Your Spouse.

Get rid of this idiot.

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This!

I think it is unlikely he will end his life. It’s also not your fault if he does that. That decision is in his own hands and it’s his responsibility to seek support from appropriate resources for his mental health. I hate when people blame their mental health for their inappropriate behaviour. You shouldn’t live miserably with his lack of morals because you’re on egg shells that he’ll kill himself. Ultimately if this is what he wants it’s you or her. And it will not last with her, he barely knows the woman it’s childish and rediculous. What a twat.

babycandy · 19/02/2024 23:36

Walk away and start the life you and the kids deserve!
So the relationship brake down may well be the fault of you both, but the decent thing would have been to end it before starting something with someone new.
The fact they met online suggests he was looking.
I’m sorry he’s done this to you but this might turn out to be a blessing in disguise. X

momtoboys · 19/02/2024 23:46

Feck him. You are better off financially - tell him to leave and figure it out on his own. Your kids will be fine.

VintageBlossomHill · 19/02/2024 23:50

I’d be absolutely delighted that he’d met someone else. Slam the door on his ass and ring the solicitor.

RawBloomers · 19/02/2024 23:50

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:05

I said the vast majority cheats and all the stats world wide back that up. If it’s not you it’s your partner….

I’ve also said that what they need to do is get help to untangle everything f and consciously uncouple if that’s what they need to do for everyone’s best outcome.

The stats do not back up the assertion that the vast majority of people are unfaithful in a marriage.

Only about a fifth to a quarter of married people cheat on their partners.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:52

RawBloomers · 19/02/2024 23:50

The stats do not back up the assertion that the vast majority of people are unfaithful in a marriage.

Only about a fifth to a quarter of married people cheat on their partners.

Ah haha. They don’t. In the west you can guarantee that about 75-80% of all
marriages have physical infidelity in them.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:53

Stripedbowtie · 19/02/2024 23:36

This!

I think it is unlikely he will end his life. It’s also not your fault if he does that. That decision is in his own hands and it’s his responsibility to seek support from appropriate resources for his mental health. I hate when people blame their mental health for their inappropriate behaviour. You shouldn’t live miserably with his lack of morals because you’re on egg shells that he’ll kill himself. Ultimately if this is what he wants it’s you or her. And it will not last with her, he barely knows the woman it’s childish and rediculous. What a twat.

No support or helpfrom his wife, all his own responsibility?I do wonder what marriage is all about then…?

NewJeans · 19/02/2024 23:56

Xenoi24 · 19/02/2024 21:33

There is no way on earth we have enough information to say divorce, or stay together

When your spouse announces they have another partner and plan to pursue that relationship....... Divorce is absolutely the correct option.

The fact that they are also someone whose "MH" issues have been causing you to bear an unequal load in the household is also very significant indeed.

The fact they plan to make their spouse continue to bear that unequal load in the household...while they pursue a romantic relationship outside the household ...... Is an indication that you are dealing with a disordered (to the point of psychopathy) individual and that divorce is the only option.

I guarantee that if op and her h "get through" this debacle, (and she continues to carry him and be repressed and deflected any time she challenges carrying him); there will be another romance sooner or later.

In spite of all her support and loyalty, he is not loyal to her.

He just thinks she should do and be what is convenient to him. It's very clear from how he's behaving that he thinks she's an object/doormat/convenience. Not one thought has entered his head about her needs or welfare ..not one thought entered his head about loyalty or fidelity what he was building up this relationship outside the marriage.

He thinks he's entitled to it.

The only thing this man deserves is a divorce.

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This! I'll bet he'd go ape shit if OP decided to get a new boyfriend, what with them being in an open relationship now and all that jazz. I don't know how many bedrooms there are in the house but he doesn't even seem to have considered that OP won't want to share a bedroom, never mind a bed, with him if they're only together for convenience. He hasn't given her one moment's consideration. It's as if she doesn't exist as a human being.

RawBloomers · 19/02/2024 23:56

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:52

Ah haha. They don’t. In the west you can guarantee that about 75-80% of all
marriages have physical infidelity in them.

You said the stats back you up, so cite them.

Stripedbowtie · 19/02/2024 23:58

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:53

No support or helpfrom his wife, all his own responsibility?I do wonder what marriage is all about then…?

I think OP has been supporting this man! Why should she continue to do that whilst he’s behaving like this? Is he following his vows? Nope

MissingMoominMamma · 19/02/2024 23:58

He’s even lazy about his emotional affair. Telling you, so that you have to make the difficult decisions.

I strongly feel that there is a happier life in your future, but it’s not with him.

LoudSnoringDog · 20/02/2024 00:17

What an arsehole

do not waste any more energy in this man

Anita848 · 20/02/2024 00:40

Gosh I'm so sorry, this really doesn't seem like a healthy relationship for you to be in. Of course, him getting professional help would be great but that doesn't mean you're obligated to stay in any way. It seems that the healthiest thing for you to do is to leave the relationship (which of course I understand is easier said than done). I'm glad you said you're not making any rash decisions as you'll be better in the long term if you think everything through so you can take the best route towards a better future for you and your children.
Wishing you luck in whatever you decide, but remember you are worthy of being in a relationship where you are valued and taken care of, and its important that your children see that if you are in a relationship. They may be heartbroken now but they and you will be better off in the long run.
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Winter3000 · 20/02/2024 01:53

Aquamarine1029 · 19/02/2024 00:57

Your next step should be tossing all of his shit to the kerb.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him.

Ask him to take a long walk off a shirt pier.

I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown.

A breakdown of his morals, yes.

I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

Of course he's mentioned suicide in the past, it's play #1 in the Twat's Handbook for Manipulating Your Spouse.

Get rid of this idiot.

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This.

What a twatty loser.
Bin him.

Rosscameasdoody · 20/02/2024 07:27

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:52

Ah haha. They don’t. In the west you can guarantee that about 75-80% of all
marriages have physical infidelity in them.

what they need to do is get help to untangle everything and consciously uncouple if that’s what they need to do for everyone’s best outcome.

I can tell you what it’s not about. It’s not about withdrawing from your marriage on the pretext of mental health problems, and pushing all of the responsibility for the running of the household, childcare and balancing reduced finances onto your partner, while you build up a relationship with someone else and plan your new life with them. When all the while you’re supposedly engaging in therapy designed to get you back to health.

How much more support and help do you want the OP to provide, given that she’s exhausted and probably on the verge of an actual breakdown herself ? He’s made it clear that he intends to pursue this other relationship, and wants the OP to facilitate that by continuing to live together because it’s too inconvenient for him to move in with this woman. How do you think this can be described as a marriage when he’s effectively ended it with this nonsense ?

A mental health problem doesn’t give you an excuse to cheat. It’s also not a reason to cheat, let alone used as a cover to meticulously plan a comfortable new life for yourself at the expense of your wife and children. And he has a ready made excuse to come crawling back when his other woman realises what a weasel he is, doesn’t he ? He can blame it all on his ‘breakdown’

The only ‘conscious uncoupling’ OP needs to do is to burst his fantasy bubble by kicking him out and divorcing him - why should she care about the best outcome for anyone else but herself ?

Soozikinzii · 20/02/2024 11:56

No way can he live there with you doing all the family stuff what on earth does he bring to the table ? You must get grip and look into all your legal rights move your own money around then calmly ask him to leave . He's made his bed he'll have to lie in it now .

Xenoi24 · 20/02/2024 13:32

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 23:03

Well he hasn’t or he’d have actually left and decided is quite strong given he’s told his wife and all he did was kiss someone.

You appear to be reading a different thread.

And he's only suggesting cohabiting because it's suits his lazy, cock lodging arse.

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