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Husband has met someone else

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AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 00:48

So this evening, my husband told me he’s ‘met’ someone else. We’ve been married 15 years this year. 2 children (11&9).

Our relationship hasn’t been great for a couple of years. He struggles with his mental health, there have been numerous gaps in our household (both work but I do majority of household/mental load). I know I’ve let resentment build in this time and haven’t fully communicated it as he can get quite defensive when asked to share the load and can then have a spell where he doesn’t get out of bed for a couple of days so I end up doing it all myself anyway. I’ve found it tough feeling I can’t be ill/break down as I can’t rely on him to pick up the load.

This time last year, as a household, we were bringing in £110k so quite a comfortable lifestyle although we live in the south east and have a large mortgage. In September he had a major breakdown (apparently due to work stress) was signed off sick for 4 months and started a new job 6 weeks ago with a 50% pay cut. During this time I’ve had the stress of working, juggling the finances whilst he was off sick and dealing with the children whilst he focused on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover. Apart from my family, only a couple of other people have asked me if I’m ok.

This evening, he’s told me he’s met someone else. Someone he’s been friends with for a while (mainly online) but feelings have developed over the past few weeks. He said he was out with her last night (he told me he was having a uni mate reunion), they’ve kissed but not had sex.

I was shocked and didn’t ask loads of questions as couldn’t quite get my head round it all. I know things haven’t been great between us but I think I’m burnt out and haven’t had the mental capacity to tackle that as a priority amongst everything else that has been going on. Separating would break my kids hearts and we’d have to sell our house and downsize and I’m not even sure either of us would be able to buy our own houses given the cost of houses here.

In our chat, he did say that this other woman lives 3hrs away so it’s not like he’s planning on moving in with her (she is divorced and has a young child too).He said he doesn’t want a divorce and thinks we could live together with the boys but I really don’t think I could do that. I feel like he wants his housemaid (me) here to run the household, support him financially (now that he’s taken a 50% paycut) whilst he has a long distance with occasional meet up affair.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him. I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown. If we do separate, I’m now the higher earner (since he’s given up his professional career) and have local family support so will be best placed to set up with the kids. I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

I plan on talking to my sister tomorrow but can’t face telling my parents yet. Don’t know whether I should be pretending all is ok for a while and see how things pan out over the next few weeks. Don’t know whether I should be fighting and say we should have counselling to see if we can get back on track or if we’ve passed the point of no return. Don’t know whether I should agree to remain in the household for the kids and financial stability. Or whether I should demand a divorce, sell the house, split the assets and start again, knowing that we’d both struggle to buy a house on a single income and our kids lifestyles would be dramatically changed.

I’m not planning on making a rash decision. He said I could go away and have some space or he would go for a few days if I wanted him to. It’s half term here so the kids would ask questions if one of us wasn’t around.

Any advice on next steps?

OP posts:
AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 16:43

In terms of current wages I’m on £48k and he’s on £33k (was on £65k). Is it likely he’d get more in a divorce settlement? I’ve read today about earning potential. He’s got the same earning potential as me. It’s just that he doesn’t want to do it as he finds it too stressful.

I have the potential to go up to about £60k but I assume I’d be best to leave that until a settlement is agreed as trying to raise my earnings now could impact me negatively.

OP posts:
cleo333 · 19/02/2024 16:44

Another thing I want to add . Be careful not to be too trusting over finances . I never for one minute thought my ex would do anything but he sold our insurance policy and bought a fast car . I found out after and couldn't really challenge it without lots of legal costs as it was in joint names . The children's accounts were also emptied . Protect you and the kids here , he's done something already you probably never expected

DissidentDaughter · 19/02/2024 16:45

I know I’ve let resentment build in this time and haven’t fully communicated it as he can get quite defensive when asked to share the load and can then have a spell where he doesn’t get out of bed for a couple of days so I end up doing it all myself anyway. I’ve found it tough feeling I can’t be ill/break down as I can’t rely on him to pick up the load

Aaaargh - quite how you’d find the time to ‘fully communicate’ your resentment beats me, OP - you’ve been alone on the frontline managing work/kids/household without a break!

And now everything is collapsing, and he expects you to ‘run on empty’ and be even more flexible and accommodating.

Hope you’re ok, OP. It sounds very upsetting, but glad you’ve got your sis and mum for support x

fairycakes1234 · 19/02/2024 16:45

Aquamarine1029 · 19/02/2024 00:57

Your next step should be tossing all of his shit to the kerb.

I need to speak to him tomorrow but don’t know what I should be asking him.

Ask him to take a long walk off a shirt pier.

I don’t know if this is all associated with his breakdown.

A breakdown of his morals, yes.

I do worry though, that if we separate and this new relationship breaks down, he’ll spiral downwards again (he has mentioned suicide in the past).

Of course he's mentioned suicide in the past, it's play #1 in the Twat's Handbook for Manipulating Your Spouse.

Get rid of this idiot.

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ReadingSoManyThreads · 19/02/2024 16:53

@AnnaP81 can you afford to pay the mortgage & household bills on your own until your fixed deal expires in 3 yrs? If so, I would consider staying in the house until then, to avoid the hefty early repayment fee. Obviously get your legal advice, but also do get some financial advice too. He is liable for the mortgage, but don't bank on him paying it if he moves out. Even if you pay it all yourself for the next three years, you need to sort out issues such as occupational rent, and dividing the equity when the house is sold...please seek good advice on this. Also, bare in mind that all professional advice you get on this won't always be the best advice, often I read about solicitors giving out really shitty advice that contradicts other solicitors, so don't be scared to seek more than one professional opinion.

He needs to leave, it's just a case of figuring out if you can afford to stay there for now or not...

PaminaMozart · 19/02/2024 16:53

Leave him to his online sex pal - he can be the millstone around HER neck. You've got decades ahead of you, a career, kids, the option to rent, the option to move anywhere you want. He will always be thoroughly dependent on other people to prop him up. You can and will do better.

I couldn't have said it better. You are a go-getter, @AnnaP81 , whereas he is and always will be a leech.

GabriellaMontez · 19/02/2024 17:12

AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 16:43

In terms of current wages I’m on £48k and he’s on £33k (was on £65k). Is it likely he’d get more in a divorce settlement? I’ve read today about earning potential. He’s got the same earning potential as me. It’s just that he doesn’t want to do it as he finds it too stressful.

I have the potential to go up to about £60k but I assume I’d be best to leave that until a settlement is agreed as trying to raise my earnings now could impact me negatively.

I think it's likely you'd get more as you'll mainly end up looking after the children.

But this is where you need a solicitor to discuss details.

MyFirstLittlePony · 19/02/2024 17:15

Yes don’t trust him at all

play nice and polite but get a hard nosed lawyer to sort out the divorce and legal entanglements

this is where you have to be smart and really hard nosed and do not trust a word he says. But pretend to be nice and civil for as long as needed

RiderofRohan · 19/02/2024 17:19

He sounds like a trainwreck. Let her have him. There's a good chance she won't be willing to mollycoddle him and make up for his deficiencies the way you have.

I'm almost certain he will live to regret it.

fluffycatkins · 19/02/2024 17:32

Although it may be difficult in the short term I can't help thinking that in the long run this is going to be much better for you than where you are right now.
Good luck moving forward, don't let me weasel his way back into your life when he realizes that he's been a total idiot.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:55

AnnaP81 · 19/02/2024 16:43

In terms of current wages I’m on £48k and he’s on £33k (was on £65k). Is it likely he’d get more in a divorce settlement? I’ve read today about earning potential. He’s got the same earning potential as me. It’s just that he doesn’t want to do it as he finds it too stressful.

I have the potential to go up to about £60k but I assume I’d be best to leave that until a settlement is agreed as trying to raise my earnings now could impact me negatively.

If you divorce you’re likely to split things 50/50 - including the children. It’s a significant step back for everyone. Believe me I know. Do go see a councillor and or therapist before doing anything else.

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:56

GabriellaMontez · 19/02/2024 17:12

I think it's likely you'd get more as you'll mainly end up looking after the children.

But this is where you need a solicitor to discuss details.

Why would that happen? Given the disparity in wages and capacity to work it’s quite possible he would get more of the kids and the OP would have to pay child support. In fact I think it’s likely

Shamblestoo · 19/02/2024 18:07

I feel like he wants his housemaid (me) here to run the household, support him financially (now that he’s taken a 50% paycut) whilst he has a long distance with occasional meet up affair

Damn right that is what he wants.

You seem to have got nothing out of this relationship for a long time.

Separating would seem to be the best bet for you.

If he will agree to it, you can do the divorce yourself cheaply and easily. See if he willl agree to just an equal split of the house equity, and then you can divorce without expensive lawyer fees.

WhistPie · 19/02/2024 18:07

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:56

Why would that happen? Given the disparity in wages and capacity to work it’s quite possible he would get more of the kids and the OP would have to pay child support. In fact I think it’s likely

Even if he wanted to move in with the 3 hours away girlfriend? Wow. He'll have a massive commute every day to their schools!

Midwifelife · 19/02/2024 18:10

namechangealerttt · 19/02/2024 02:31

This is dead in the water, don't entertain couples counselling but definitely consider it for yourself. Pull off the bandaid and start telling people. I think that was one of the hardest things separating, constantly telling everyone the news.

The really good thing that happens when you tell people, is that it gives those close to you the opportunity to step up and help and hopefully you will discover and amazing network of women around you that have your back and won't let you fall.

As women, we have loyalty to our husbands and keep their shit behaviour to ourselves so we don't shame or embarrass them. They don't deserve it, tell people everything that is going on so they have the opportunity to support you.

As long as you don't have major financial worries, the relief will come so quickly that this shit relationship where you have been doing all the work and been miserable for years is finally over.

My ex and I have 50/50 care, he was shit partner but he is an acceptable dad. After a decade I regained a sense of myself, I had been looking after 2 children and a man child full time, then I suddenly had 2 children only half the week, so much less housework and so much more time for myself. I could freely socialise and participate in activities of my choice with negotiating or feeling guilty, and I started taking care of myself properly and indulged in simple things like nice skin care routines.

Honestly, congratulations, your life is going to be amazing.

I echo this over and over and over. I'm sorry you are going through this. The hurt of betrayal and also rejection of your spouse 'choosing' the OW was really hard for me. But once I came out the other side I'm so so glad we separated. I have our DD 90% of time so slightly less free time that PP but freedom of the mental burden of dealing with another adult who couldn't look after himself, was thoughtless, selfish and used MH as an excuse for not caring for me or our DD as we deserved - OP you are going to be so much better once you are through the initial choppy waters. You have got this

GabriellaMontez · 19/02/2024 18:14

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:56

Why would that happen? Given the disparity in wages and capacity to work it’s quite possible he would get more of the kids and the OP would have to pay child support. In fact I think it’s likely

The op describes herself as working and being the main earner but also

dealing with the children whilst he focused on exercising, meditation and reading to help him recover

And describes him spending days at a time in bed.

How could he possibly be a 50/50 parent?

WigglyVonWaggly · 19/02/2024 18:18

Is he, at any point, going to consider the impact on you of living with and subsidising a man who has told you he has met someone else and is just sticking with you to avoid the inconvenience of uprooting himself as a consequence of his behaviour? Or is it just going to be all about him, him, him??

mandlerparr · 19/02/2024 18:21

He planned all of this. He reduced his work and claimed ill just so you would be the higher earner. I would contact a lawyer ASAP, the best one you can afford. Do not agree to any financial or other arrangements, not even verbally, until you get a lawyer. This man is trying to fleece you and fuck you over on top of cheating.

Efrogwraig · 19/02/2024 18:22

Let him go. It sounds like a complete fantasy. You and your children deserve much better.

Loley22 · 19/02/2024 18:25

OssieShowman · 19/02/2024 09:59

Write it all out before the chat. You will be overwhelmed.
”Separation under the one roof”. He pays equal share of household bills, childcare, and child related expenses. You do not subsidise his lifestyle.
No cooking for him. He sorts out his own laundry.
Not looking so good now, for the Loser husband.
Thinking of you and the children.

Exactly this!

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/02/2024 18:26

bombastix · 19/02/2024 16:16

There is an elegant way to get want you want, and that is to see a solicitor, propose the finances and child arrangements and then divorce.

The first part of the process is a good way to see if the guy is serious re a division and if not, you have made your terms very clear. But you should definitely not accept his myopic idea.

you should definitely not accept his myopic idea

This

All the benefits will be on his side - you will have nothing - not even the consolation of thinking you have a husband who is doing his best for you and your children.

If neither of you can afford you move out, (and separation/divorce is what you feel is in your best interests*) then you would be best doing as many have advised - living as "housemates" rather than couple, each responsible for own expenses and half of the children's.

*Spoiler alert - it is

RawBloomers · 19/02/2024 18:31

On the pensions and earnings front - if you upped your salary to 60k and, in a 50/50 split, took the disparity in pensions as extra in the house (i.e. he gets to keep his bigger pension and you get to keep a bigger slice of the house), could you afford to take the house on by yourself?

You need expert advice from a lawyer, it’s possible you’d get more of a 60/40 spoilt on assets or that the above is unlikely to fly for other reasons, but it may be that maximizing income now is in your best interests.

Frumpppp · 19/02/2024 18:32

Just wanted to say really hope you're ok - can't imagine how tough things are. It's v easy for people to say LTB but I absolutely understand how hard it is - but in this case, I do think you have to because of how he's set it out

my DH is a teacher too and the stories are v similar - mentally unwell, taken demotion to half his salary, lots of time spent on his MH and himself, and I've become main earner as well as doing majority of childcare and managing all household admin/costs etc. I also struggle to support him and be patient when i'm doing 95% of everything.

I'm sorry. It is so hard. I also have done research and I'm afraid there is a chance you may have to give more than 50% of the equity of the house because of the wage disparity - and if he says he can't earn anymore because of his MH - then that means he doesn't have the same earning potential as you as he is unwell, and you are not.

It's bloody brutal.

But as you say you could go after his pension. And also if he doesn't go for 5050 then you might have a better time on the equity from.

The first solicitor I spoke to suggested mesher order but from reading on here - that isn't such a regular thing anymore.

Floralnomad · 19/02/2024 18:33

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:56

Why would that happen? Given the disparity in wages and capacity to work it’s quite possible he would get more of the kids and the OP would have to pay child support. In fact I think it’s likely

The most the OP would have to agree to is 50/50 , no one can ‘make’ her have her children less than that .

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/02/2024 18:34

AlphariusOmegron · 19/02/2024 17:56

Why would that happen? Given the disparity in wages and capacity to work it’s quite possible he would get more of the kids and the OP would have to pay child support. In fact I think it’s likely

Why would he get more of the kids?

He can't even look after them with OP's support.

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