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Kindness of strangers will end my marriage

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maggie5103 · 20/09/2019 16:44

Hi all. I’m looking for some guidance on what is a good marriage - for years I’ve been plodding along thinking this is just how it is for everyone. However now as my children are getting older and I have more time to think, I’m reevaluating on what is acceptable or not. We only have one life and I don’t want to waste what’s left.

This morning I was struggling with two kids on scooters and my shopping bag split it’s contents on the ground. An elderly man stopped to help me - gave me a spare bag he put everything in for me and was just so nice. I don’t know what happened then but I started crying snots and all and the poor man had to whip out tissues. I mumbled thanks thanks and said you’re so kind I’m so tired never get help blah blah and he said if you’re husband doesn’t see how tired you are and what wonderful kids you have he’s a dog... anyway I managed to pull myself together thanked him - he gave me a hug and I went on with the kids to school. Then I went to work and parked it all til now. I’m now home kids are not in my face and I’m in weird form - I need to get my thoughts on paper and get some experienced input so I can clarify my feelings.

My story is met my husband 22 years ago in college. Married 14 years. Three fab children. Two high powered jobs but once kids came along I stepped back happily to part time - I love being here for the kids. Husband powered on. My background is lower middle class family made good - close family of sisters brothers parents who help each other out. His background is private school educated wealthy enough family (nanny etc) distant busy parents. What attracted me to him originally was he was outgoing, socially conscious, physically fit and motivated and he seemed so interested in life and social causes etc. But over the years I’ve found that I bitten my lip so many times over his attitude and lack of kindness that I actually now have a scarred indent in my bottom lip. There’s been so many things - they’ve just added and added on to each other that for some reason I’ve decided today I can’t take much more or anymore. Examples would be that he was away with work all week arrived home last night (he never tells me what time he’s back despite numerous arguments ) - he rang me whilst I was on a soccer run and first q was “what’s for dinner “ not how are you or where are you or even where are the kids just where’s my dinner ... I arrived home and he’s made himself something to eat left the kitchen in a mess and gone out cycling .. he arrived home v late went to bed. Up this morning early he left kitchen in mess and went for a run - arrives in as I’m trying to get three kids ready for school. I asked him could he take youngest two as my knee was sore and they wanted to scoot- school is on his way to train. He looked at me and said “you can’t ask me that now at such late notice I’ve to get a shower and get to work you work part time ITS YOUR JOB to get her to school. I bit my lip because kids were watching. I said nothing but limped over To dishwasher and started loading it. Everyone got ready he appeared said goodbye to everyone and left- five mins later I left . I can’t drive at moment with my knee and I needed to get food in shop so I took a painkiller and went to shops where I met this lovely man who helped me. This is just a tiny example of many many other unkind unfeeling things he does. He’s a good dad - he is hands on with them when he’s around. He’s a shit partner though - I do everything - I even tax and insure his car etc. his attitude to marriage and family seems to mirror his own family’s - go to work, do your hobby, meet your friends and if you have spare time then the kids - he doesn’t even visit his own family / parents. For years I have kept my head down and just got in with things for the kids and sort of ..how would I describe it .. taken a deep breath and got on with things. I’m not depressed and an generally a happy person. I have friends , a loving family , food work colleagues and I live in a nice community - lovely neighbors etc. I just have a husband who doesn’t love me. We have sex infrequently - he controls that - he told me before that nobody wants to be intimate with a moany cow - basically anytime I complained about his lack of care or thought he would sleep in a separate room. I don’t feel sad or overwhelmed - I think I’m angry. Another memory has just hit me - one of my Older male Neighbour’s asked me what I was doing cutting the hedge with toddlers at my feet and I was like oh I don’t mind it and I’ve made sure they’re safe so he said no absolutely not and he did it for me. . But I did mind - but how could I explain that if I asked husband to do it or even organize someone to do t - the hassle t would cause.

My question is - I look around and I see so many women doing everything just getting on. I just assumed that’s the way men are - but it’s Not is it? I do see some men dropping kids to school , I do see some men cutting their own hedges and making dinners. I feel like I’m in the 1950s.

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ThanosSavedMe · 29/09/2019 07:54

Well done op. Wishing you all the best. There are many decent men out there

OhamIreally · 29/09/2019 10:19

That sounds great OP - paying the school fees in advance is genius.

Good luck and keep us posted.

PrettyPurse · 30/09/2019 09:16

Only spend money that is on "accountable" things i.e school fees, uniform for the future, sports fees up front, clothes for the children in the next couple of sizes etc. All genuine stuff but will help you long term.

I did his whilst l still had access to XH credit card. He said l could use it and he'd pay it until we were financially separated...but there were conditions on it...i.e it HAD to be for the children. I also stockpiled food, so l added a couple of items to the family shop each week ready for when l was going it alone.

My ultimate "fuck u" moment though was when I purchased fancy chocolates my XH liked within the tesco food shop (so not traceable individually) .... and gave them to him for Christmas Grin

CharlotteIsabella · 30/09/2019 11:24

He is definitely taking you for granted. You chose to take care of kids over career and now he is abusing you with this kind of behavior. The kids are his too and you both share the same responsibilities.
You may need to talk to a lawyer if you are planning for divorce.

maggie5103 · 04/10/2019 10:28

Hi all. Thanks again for all your messages. Busy week as always. I went to see solicitor - gave her list and we agreed to meet again mid Nov with a view to formally starting the process. She advised me to talk to him first and if possible go to mediation before I start the process I don’t want his blood and it to go on for years I just want peace. And then As t happens we had a talk before he left work tues morning - he asked me abiut help for kids stuff when he’s away .. I was like I’ll manage like I always do ... anyway it kicked off a bit but then we both went quiet and he was the first to say - this can’t go on can it and I said no it can’t - it’s really horrible and it’s jot fair on kids. Silence. What do you want then ? I said we need some proper time apart to think - not Japan not when you’re away working - proper space. Silence again. Then he said he was afraid to come home always hassle always Agro and I said - I never wanted this - did you think this was my life plan blah blah. It goes round and round. So we agreed that Hes gong to move to apartment start November and our priority is not to shit on each other in the meantime but make sure kids are alright. ( i gave tenants in apartment notice yesterday. )Then He gave kids a big hug brought them to school and He’s gone now for nearly two weeks. He send me a text later saying as long as everything was done properly and reasonably he wouldn’t cause a shit storm. So that’s it the ball is rolling - I was all geared up for a fight but he’s past that - we’ve sort of run into the ground. I feel absolutely exhausted - I found the wedding album in the attic yesterday and I ripped it into shreds burnt it in fireplace- stupid fin day. I’m now oddly frustrated - I was expecting a fight but I got was this , I don’t know , posh sort of soothing at me Karen my sis says I should push ahead whilst I’m ahead. Get to Christmas get to Christmas.

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HugTrees · 04/10/2019 16:25

That’s good news but must also feel really shit that he gave up and didn’t try and fight for you and your marriage.
Your sister is great. Follow her advice and keep going whilst you have the momentum.
When you split you will be better off time wise as he’ll be having the kids sometime and you’ll get a proper break and he’ll realise how much you did and what he’s lost.

uptownabbey · 04/10/2019 21:47

Push ahead. Try to be glad that he's not going to put up a fight, you will feel less drained by the end of it and more ready to start your new chapter and you'll also maintain a civilised relationship between you both that will benefit the children. Ignore his lethargy he wasn't worthy of you. I'm rooting for you.

cantbeatfreshsheets · 05/10/2019 22:53

Well done you! Something it can be something as simple as kindness from a stranger that can be the straw that breaks the camels back. The realisation that you can receive more empathy & kindness from a stranger than you're own husband. I left mine in May for exactly the reasons lacking. I was undervalued and feel I deserve much more than he could give. That would have eventually killed my spirit. It's already affected me profoundly. I left my family hone with a 4 year old and a 3 month old baby after my 5 year marriage. I want to set a good example to my children 👶 f what a healthy loving relationship is and mine was not one of those. It is still very raw and I have

highs & lows but ultimately I feel as though I'm going the right thing for the long run. Best of luck. For me the biggest relief was being able to admit I wasn't happy rather than pretending, it drained me. Surely the only way is up.....?! Xx

Itsallchange · 06/10/2019 09:30

@cantbeatfreshsheets such a similar story to mine.
@maggie5103 why should we have to settle, you only get one life and you deserve to live the best one possible. The next few months will be tough, I’m 8 months down the line and it’s got worse before better. BUT it’s a short term pain for a long term gain. I’m 43 so 1/2 years of shit for a good many years (hopefully) of happiness has got to be worth a shot xx like the post above said I was drowning in trying to be happy and hiding those things that were making me unhappy, it was hard work to settle

maggie5103 · 02/11/2019 18:41

Hi everyone. I’m conscious of all the lovely ladies and wonderful advice I’ve got on this so I wanted to post an update. DH moved out today - His last comments were “well let’s hope this makes you happy because if t doesn’t you’re totally f’ed” handed me keys and off he went. I went out last night so he spent the night with the kids - we talked to them all filled them in with what was happening. In fairness to him we both got advice on what to say together and we followed it through. The kids are quiet now and clingy so we’re putting a movie on and having some more treats. My Dad is coming over to spend the night and talk through the movie no doubt. I feel very teary - feel cheated that I put up with it so long and would he have just let it go on if I hadn’t called it ? We’ve agreed through solicitors to sell house and he’s agreed to pay kids maintenance and leave whatever is in bank accounts with me - I didn’t ask for anything else re his other accounts or maintenance for me etc. If house sells for enough I maybe able to buy a smaller place near my parents. I’ve upped hours in work so if I need a mortgage I should be ok. So quickie divorce no contest - so 20 plus years of effort and toil and that’s what it feels like. Effort and toil was my marriage. Bitter lesson - I should have called it years ago . Thanks everyone for reading and posting and being so kind. Focus on kids now for a while and staying as nice as I can so he’s nice to kids. If only I’d joined the others on their trip to Oz all those years ago I would have escaped him but then I wouldn’t have my three beauties .. who knows? I probably would have met another ass. Evening all and good luck to all the wonderful ladies out there.

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CreepyCrawleyAbbey · 02/11/2019 19:11

Well done, It'll get easier as time goes on and kids get used to it all. Thinking of you all and sending you all the luck in the world for your future life. Happiness awaits you now 💐

Postmanbear · 06/11/2019 20:13

Thank you for updating, I hope the future is better for you and your kids.
I know it feels like a waste of time now but you were trying to make your marriage work for the sake of your children. You should be really proud of yourself for trying so hard but also for being brave enough to end it when enough was enough.
Don’t be too quick to walk away with no maintenance etc if you are entitled to it, I’m sure you’ve had legal advice.
💐

Weenurse · 09/11/2019 07:05

Thanks for the update.
Good luck going forward 💐

MyOtherProfile · 09/11/2019 07:20

I hope he keeps his word and doesn't make things difficult for you. I hope soon you can get to your new home and new life without any hassle.

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