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Starting the Newcastle Diet...

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MrsWooster · 19/05/2017 11:45

Started yesterday after breakfast at 105.2kg. I've got a hba1c test today to track it.
So far so Good! Im using exante products as meal replacement and the almond vanilla shake was ok- quite marzipan y. The veg stir fry mixed with the laksa soup mix would have been OK if I'd added a LOT more garlic, chili and ginger. This morning's cherry berry shake was properly nasty- like thick old skool cough mixture. Live and learn.
Any hot tips, companions, advice are welcome.
Wish me luck.

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MrsWooster · 14/06/2017 09:39

96.8kg
Best of luck, MrEve
part of the answer for me seems to be movement - any movement, rather than specific exercise. I had a really sedentary weekend and Monday, apart from a swim on Monday and had minimal weight loss.. Yesterday resumed normal activity - school runs, walking to shops etc. Despite a mahoosive lunch, resulting from a misordered vegetarian meal for DP, meaning I was FORCED to eat eggs benedict with ham AND half a bowl of sweet potato and ginger soup, Things moved significantly in a tmi toilet way and I have lost, quite literally, a shitload. Paid the dreadful stomach ache price for such a rich dinner time though don't care; completely worth it All the more reason for me continuing the emotional blackmail on DP to get a dog so I can walk even more...

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Evewasinnocent · 14/06/2017 19:50

Hi Mrs W - your last post made me smile! Sweet potato and ginger soup sounds lovely (and I love an eggs Benedict!) - glad it had some good effects! We do a lot of walking - even if its just round the park (we back onto) - but DH has now taken to more strenuous exercise (and reckons eating cherries stops any after effects). Proof of the (chia) pudding is tomorrow!

MrsWooster · 15/06/2017 10:45

96.4kg
Steady day. Shakey breakfast, shakey lunch with two carrots, lots of water and veg soup for tea. Some scavenging of nuts and a spoonful of kids' spag bol and my new addiction of linseeds - they are the gift that keeps on giving, as the little blighters keep reappearing from the backs of teeth for hours afterwards and you get another chance to crunch them satisfyingly. Small pleasures.
Not enough moving - I am on my feet a lot as a teacher but I think it needs to be walking; something about the impacts combined with gravity that Gets Things Moving!

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Evewasinnocent · 16/06/2017 00:01

Hi Mrs W - Mr Eve's results are in - and 3 months after finishing the 'starvation' part of the diet it is good news - diabetes still gone - a very marginal 0.2 increase (whatever that means) - but not even close to type 2 pre-diabetes zone let alone the full on T2 he had!! He considers chia seeds to be his gift that keeps on giving - but I did buy him a pack of linseeds to try last weekend!! I had a 'raw' no sugar key lime pie from Crush today (made from avocado) - was delicious - going to try and find a recipe and make for him this weekend. I think your tastebuds do change - he said he tried a few chips tonight (from the chippie) and thought they were boring and tasteless! Our favourite 'fry-up' breakfast is now haloumi, mushrooms, peppers, tomatoes and green beans with lashings of olive oil and balsamic - if told that was likely a year ago I would not have believed it!! Sounds like you are doing really well too - and it is so worth it!

MrsWooster · 16/06/2017 09:29

Nice one Eve! That is really great news. The food sounds great too. I have to accept that my future eating will be very different - not just the 1/3rd to 3/4 amounts that Prof Taylor identifies but different content too.
96.5kg
I forgot anything for lunch yesterday so had a shake when I got in at 3.30 but was fully into a food frenzy panic. I made the kids tea - egg mayo sandwiches - and just threw all sense out of the window, because it looked so lovely (we have 2 hens and their eggs have practically tangerine coloured yolks), and had one too. I felt diabolical, like I had eaten my own body weight in lead, to the point that I actually thought I was going to be sick. Bedtime at 7.30 with a cup of mint tea and a chance to Think About What I Have Done.

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Evewasinnocent · 16/06/2017 20:57

Oh don't be too hard on yourself - the egg bit is really good for you (and so fresh!) I forgot the boiled egg we add to out weekend breakfast brunch! - and I note the kilos are falling off! DH reached a point where he (though hungry!) said he felt he had more 'energy' on the home straight!

MrsWooster · 17/06/2017 23:16

96.8kg. Bollocks. That's an absolute swizz because I ate bugger all yesterday- shake, shake, stir fry veg tea. It's the loo what done me in- despite gallons of water, I am still a stranger to te smallest room. Even my beloved linseeds aren't cutting the mustard.

Shake breakfast today, hog roast for lunch may be off piste but i dumped the bread, stuffing and so just had a fuck load of meat so it can't be too bad surely..? Stir fry for tea with those weird magic calorie free noodles which were quite pleasing, in the event. On opening the packet they stank of fish but three rinses and a soak in water then a boil turned them into... sort of reasonable noodles. What brave new world... Mint tea for supper and comedic rumbling tum so hope for the best.

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MrsWooster · 18/06/2017 09:51

97.0kg

Fuckity McFuck. I am going to soak some linseeds and drink a fuckton of water. I am Not Pleased. How can I possibly be putting weight ON? Nearly 8000 steps yesterday, which considering my average is only about 5000 isn't bad for me, totalling, according to my UP band, over 2000 calories (with 500 from activity). Assuming the pork was very high call, that probably accounts for 500, with 200 from shakey breakfast and 250 from stir fry, there's a deficit of nearly 1000 calories. Maybe I am turning into one of those plants that live on air.
It is very dispiriting. Pushing all my buttons to just throw my hands up and eat crap.

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notapizzaeater · 18/06/2017 10:37

Perhaps you're carrying a few kilos of poo !

MrsWooster · 18/06/2017 10:45

The linseeds are poaching so stand by for the tmi of all tmi's!

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Evewasinnocent · 18/06/2017 13:43

Ooh don't give up - just stop weighing yourself and stick to the diet!! MrEve likes to soak his seeds as well (often overnight)!!

MrsWooster · 18/06/2017 22:35

Soaked linseeds and chia, chopped carrot, broccoli and 3 cherry tomatoes in 4 tsp of live yoghurt. Possibly the worst lunch EVER, made much much worse by the inspiration of some lemon juice. What was I thinking?? Some rumblings in the afternoon but mostly just a feeling like I'd over eaten. Oh, the irony. I have resorted to Andrews Liver salts, this afternoon and again this evening. A shake for tea, although I wasn't really hungry tbh. If nothing results from this, then exorcism is the only way forward.

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Evewasinnocent · 19/06/2017 21:56

MrEve says he had a similar episode to you so don't panic - it is possible your gut bacteria is changing? - but he did pig out on lots of vegetables and recommends highly. He used the Mosley blood sugar diet and recipe books and followed carefully. He had no refined sugar or processed food of any kind for the whole 8 weeks and stuck to less than 800 calories a day. He was a big meat eater - but now hardly any though lots of fish. He was highly motivated as his brother has diabetes and is now more or less blind! Still has no refined sugar or processed foods - but he does have 'raw' chocolate (plus 100% bean from hotel chocolat!) and the odd glass of red wine. Chilis and my homemade chili sauce have been a godsend as well!

MrsWooster · 19/06/2017 22:14

96.9kg
Exorcism it is. Two goes with the liver salts and no joy. I should have followed your advice Eve and gone big veg today but it's been too busy and too hot so three shakes today, all with linseed, and a giant glass of liver salts to see if that will help. I'm my own worst enemy... I have been moving about all day though. All I can do is carry on; my logical head says I can't possibly not lose weight if I keep to

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Evewasinnocent · 19/06/2017 22:33

yep all the (food) prep is a pain - but 6 months in we are finally pretty organised on the food front! it takes a bit of getting used to! Stamp your foot - You'll be fine!

MrsWooster · 20/06/2017 14:52

96.8kg
Still drumming. Shakey breakfast, soup for lunch- pork, lentil and kale, courtesy of Waitrose cafe. Not exactly on the Program but v low calorie. Also hoovered up some of dp's coleslaw to keep the roughage quotient up. Green salad with grilled chicken for tea - dc's McDonald's day - so again off piste but low calorie.

I am weirdly used to the little amounts of food now, and accustomed to not having the biscuit with a cup of tea when a friend popped round yesterday. It still seems like a grind if there's not an appreciable weightloss to show for it. Maybe I need to fire up my old bloodtester, since I still can't find the new one, and at least be able to see a result for the bloodsugar aspect.

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MrsWooster · 20/06/2017 17:57

Epiphany: whilst driving-thru, realised I could make a perfectly nice salad at home, cheaper, better and nicer than MaccyD. So I did. Shamefully, dc still got their crackburgers.

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MrsWooster · 21/06/2017 09:07

96.5kg
creeping like a snail... Yesterday was a veritable feast of fibre (and liver salts) and hopefully the same today - though I have forgotten the salad dressing so there's a large icecream tub of shredded cabbage, carrots, broccoli, peppers, sundried toms... nude. Strangely the school canteen don't stock balsamic vinegar so I will improvise with sachets of salad cream. I will also send off for some more inulin - I was a big fan before this all started, ever since the Angela Rippon piece about visceral fat and the potential effect of inulin. It's a shame she never reported the results but I can confirm it gives a lovely poo, whatever the effect on fatty livers. Thinking about it, I was always used to take bile extract too, in the absence of my own gall bladder, and the impasse coincided with that running out. May be a connection? Worth a try. I am my own little Professor Branestawm experiment.

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MrsWooster · 21/06/2017 09:08

ps Eve you, and MrEve are really helping; knowing someone real, not a statistic, has done this and continues to succeed helps me get over the strops!

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notapizzaeater · 21/06/2017 13:41

Ooh I've just started taking inulin :-) looks forward to naice poos !!

MrsWooster · 21/06/2017 14:25

lots and lots... I used to sprinkle a good dessertspoonful on my cereal god, i love cereal and be prepared to fart like a carthorse while your guts settle down. Enjoy!

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MrsWooster · 21/06/2017 21:40

Shredded veg, garlic, bit of green thai curry paste and a bit of coconut milk. Pretty nice laksa- esque soup. I'd eat it in real life with chicken in. Nice glass of liver salts for pudding. Ambassador, you are really spoiling us, etc. If this little lot doesn't get things shifting properly (though there is some improvement...) then there's no hope.

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MrsWooster · 22/06/2017 11:00

95.8kg
Off we go again. Long may the roughage consumption continue. Shakey breakfast, more soup for lunch and will see what teatime holds - stir fry possibly? if there is a national cabbage and broccoli shortage soon, I shall go into hiding but will continue to post from my secret underground bunker.

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Buxtonstill · 22/06/2017 17:10

I have been on the Newcastle diet for 3 months now. My doctor has prescribed Optifast shakes for me. I have lost 36 pounds so far. my blood sugars are coming down to pre type 2 levels, and my fasting numbers are slowly dropping . Down to 6.4 this morning. My GP has agreed to prescribe the shakes for me until the end of October. Blimmin good job; they are £30 for 9 shakes which is 3 days supply, so around £300 a month. Luckily I don't pay prescription charges.

MrsWooster · 22/06/2017 21:49

I'm using the exante ones which, as here are always offers on, end up around a quid a shake. I probably have two each day, along with a leafy veg meal, so it's a lot cheaper, thank heavens! Your GP must be a forward thinker to be sufficiently aware of the Newcastle diet; mine is ace and had only just heard rumours...

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