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Help with false maintenance claims

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Mixedupparent · 19/04/2025 09:15

I need help desperately. My ex has made a false claim to child maintenance. She made a phone call, told a lot of false information and they just believed what she said..no evidence or proof required. As I have a high paid job she did it purely to line her own pocket. I am my sons main care giver. My son spends most overnights with me. I am the one spends time with him. Feeds him, spends quality time with him. I have him xtra nights due his mothers busy schedule..I tried to tell CMS that the information she provided is false.. bt apparently this doesn't matter..I'm the one pays my sons childminding. School bills and all expenses related to his upbringing. I have to pay the money direct as the mother cannot be trusted to pay it if i send the money to her. Which I proved..I sent sooo much proof to back up my situation and trying to prove that my sons mother never has him..he is always with me. Bt they took no notice of this and told me I've to pay her money directly out of my wages. She is laughing as she wil spend that money and my sons bills will all go unpaid and I will have to pay them anyway..while she uses my money for her lifestyle. Please help me. What should I do..I love my son..I am a good father. I've always been a good father..I am not an absent father..I need help.. what can I do...

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:22

That's great thanks...I asked for help. Or advice , not for you to argue wether it is myself or my wife. As she only opened it for me. I don't thnk that was the issue. I was looking some advice for my situation..

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:24

Believe me i am not a trolley. What have I to gain. If I was a troll. This would be an extreme waste of my time. But thank you for your help

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/04/2025 22:24

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:04

My heart goes out to u. I've exhausted with it all..I love my son..I want to do right by him..I don't have the energy to fight her lies every step of the way .

Your heart goes out to whom?

You need to quote people when you're replying, as your thread doesn't make sense otherwise.

Click on the Quote button, which is under each post.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/04/2025 22:25

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:22

That's great thanks...I asked for help. Or advice , not for you to argue wether it is myself or my wife. As she only opened it for me. I don't thnk that was the issue. I was looking some advice for my situation..

Eh? Who opened what for you?

I'm not surprised to hear that CMS are rejecting your evidence. You're very unclear when you post.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:26

Sorry I have never used this before. Apologies.

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RedHelenB · 21/04/2025 22:27

The solution is to go to court. Then the overnights are clear and the amount of CMS due will.reflect this.
What you can't do is to expect that the system changes. Under CMS rules, the money goes directly to the resident parent You don't get to say I'm paying that bill and that clothing. You're welcome to pay them of course, but you can't deduct them from the amount you've been deemed liable to pay.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/04/2025 22:28

polkadotmonstera · 21/04/2025 22:03

If he goes to childminder why are you paying school dinners? Is he going to childminder or school? Also are not school dinners free? This sounds like a troll, another dad trying not yo pay CM ...

School dinners are not free after KS1 and I’d assume he’s going to a childminder after school because leaving your primary aged child at home after school finishes until you get home from work is frowned upon. I don’t see any evidence of this being a troll.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:28

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 21/04/2025 22:25

Eh? Who opened what for you?

I'm not surprised to hear that CMS are rejecting your evidence. You're very unclear when you post.

Thebroononeandthewhiteone.. I am really sorry I have never used this before. I thought when I wrote underneath the comment that is would just reply to the previous question. So sorry that's not correct.

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:32

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/04/2025 22:28

School dinners are not free after KS1 and I’d assume he’s going to a childminder after school because leaving your primary aged child at home after school finishes until you get home from work is frowned upon. I don’t see any evidence of this being a troll.

Rafaisthekingofclay. I am most definitely not a troll. I came on here today for the first time ever using it. My wife set it up for me which is why at the start it sounded like her as it was. Sorry I didn't realise it was a crime to do that. Bt it has been myself all evening. U r right my son goes to childminders aftr school. On school closure days. Bank holidays. Summer holidays etc. . And his school dinners are not free. Nothing he attends is free. I think the CMS should investigate what the mother says or ask for some evidence or proof to what they are saying..without always thinking the worst of the father

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justasking111 · 21/04/2025 22:36

If you won't go to court which I can't understand to be honest. Then hand over the money. Let her burn through it and the creditors chase her. That will bring it to a head.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:39

Daisy12Maisie · 19/04/2025 11:46

If you are the main caregiver and he lives with you then she shouldn’t be able to claim child maintenance. How many nights does he live with you?
Is he is at private school or by school bills do you mean dinner money and school trips etc?

Hiya. Myself and my ex had a private agreement in reference our son. We have him equal nights. 7 each out of 14. However every wk she will approach me and ask me to keep my son due to her being busy. So I have always taken my son and happily paid most of his expenses as he's my son. However she just made this random call to CMS and got the to check what she would get from me because I'm on a high paid job. So she just lied. Picked a number of days from her head and lied. They believed her. When I rang them I told them my son is near 11 and there's never been a claim. Ever. This year now she is stuck for a few pound she has used my job against me n lined her own pocket bt I know not one penny I give her will be spent on my son. Which I proved to the CMS as I've had to have numerous meetings with the school and different ppl due to unpaid bills. So I pay all direct to them so I know they r paid

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:42

GoBackToTheStart · 21/04/2025 21:53

How would a court order which clearly sets out the rules and boundaries be more awkward than the current situation which evidently isn’t working? Go to court and get residency sorted.

You don't know the kind of woman I am dealing with .the current situation is only awkward for me and hurting me. She doesn't care. She is lining her pocket n our son is being cared for by me. So if I take her to court and SHE isn't getting her own way. She will make it hard for me to c my son. She will start giving him to more ppl than normal.. anyway to hurt me she won't care what it does to my son...If I give her what she wants. When she wants myself an my son get to live in peace.

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:45

GoBackToTheStart · 21/04/2025 21:53

How would a court order which clearly sets out the rules and boundaries be more awkward than the current situation which evidently isn’t working? Go to court and get residency sorted.

The current situation suits her..and that's all she cares about. I want a quiet life and just to have my son. Provide for him and be left in peace and not have her putting in fake claims to the CMS to line her pockets. I'd b afraid if the court didn't c through he lies and myself or my son lost out in anyway or they believed her.. I would be heartbroken

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 21/04/2025 22:46

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:32

Rafaisthekingofclay. I am most definitely not a troll. I came on here today for the first time ever using it. My wife set it up for me which is why at the start it sounded like her as it was. Sorry I didn't realise it was a crime to do that. Bt it has been myself all evening. U r right my son goes to childminders aftr school. On school closure days. Bank holidays. Summer holidays etc. . And his school dinners are not free. Nothing he attends is free. I think the CMS should investigate what the mother says or ask for some evidence or proof to what they are saying..without always thinking the worst of the father

What about the post that started off from your perspective then halfway through said "CMS have sent the letter to his workplace and asked for the money to be withdrawn out of his wages?"

Something very fishy here.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:51

vodkaredbullgirl · 19/04/2025 09:19

🤔how many nights or does he live with you?

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Sorry, I wasn't sure how to use this and I was answering the questions and thinking they would go under the comment bt I have noticed that isn't the way it works. Sorry for confusing all. He is meant to spend 7nights with me and 7nights with her. I always have him on my nights always. Bt on her nights she messages me every wk asking me to have my son additional nights for her. This is every wk without fail...so I end up always having him more than her. Bt this isn't what she told the CMS. She lied ,I asked for the transcript of the conversation so I could take it to my solicitor n address the lies she told bt they wouldn't give it to me. No matter how many times I said she has lied.i asked have u asked her for any proof to back up her claims. Any evidence. They said no.. which I can't believe.. then they treat me like some absent father who doesn't pay or care for their child. It's heartbreaking..

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:52

Bohemond23 · 21/04/2025 18:44

You seem to have changed from the father to the father’s wife/girlfriend…..

Sorry my wife set it up for me. I've never used this platform before so she was showing me. It doesn't change the reason I am on here though...thanks

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Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 22:54

OP if this is genuine and you really are a high earner then get proper legal advice instead of talking to strangers on the internet.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:54

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 21/04/2025 22:46

What about the post that started off from your perspective then halfway through said "CMS have sent the letter to his workplace and asked for the money to be withdrawn out of his wages?"

Something very fishy here.

Omg. What is fishy about it?? My grammar?? Or what? I have never used this platform before . I only came on here to get some advice or support. My wife wrote the first couple to show me how to do it and I still did it wrong. Thinking I was replying to ppl when I wasn't. Bt instead of u trying to help me or offer support ur more interested in the wording of the comment

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 21/04/2025 22:58

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:54

Omg. What is fishy about it?? My grammar?? Or what? I have never used this platform before . I only came on here to get some advice or support. My wife wrote the first couple to show me how to do it and I still did it wrong. Thinking I was replying to ppl when I wasn't. Bt instead of u trying to help me or offer support ur more interested in the wording of the comment

Well yes, your grammar is pretty terrible and using text speak is making your posts difficult to wade through.

Your thread is all about the CMS apparently refusing to believe a word you say and applying an attachment of earnings order, which only happens when there's been a consistent failure to pay what you should. So your integrity is at the heart of the issue, and posts where you don't seem to know who you are don't help your case.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 22:58

Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 22:54

OP if this is genuine and you really are a high earner then get proper legal advice instead of talking to strangers on the internet.

Hiya. Yes thanks for ur advice. I have spoken to a solicitor and we've had to send a letter to her addressing all the issues and the lies she has told CMS . I have to ask for a mandatory reconsideration and if she does not reply to the letter I have to send her a court order. I really didn't want to do all this. I thought being a good father. Having my son all the time and paying all his bills was enough for the CMS bt instead they took the word from some woman on the phone an didn't ask for one ounce of proof or evidence bt I'm killing myself trying to prove she has told lies. The world is all wrong.. bt thank you for ur advice.

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 23:01

ARichtGoodDram · 21/04/2025 18:47

CMS use the child benefit as the basis as to who is the resident parent.

You need to apply for the CB and then when it's contested they'll take your proof as to who is financially responsible for the child.

Formalising it with a court order is also a good idea

See i never ever wanted the CB..and because we split the nights 7each every fortnight. I just told her to claim it. As I never wanted it.. I've provided for my son his whole life for near 11years. Paying more than half of all his bills and having him more than the 7nights I am meant to every 2wks . I never saw myself in this position because I thought doing all that was enough.. turns out it isn't.

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 23:05

RedHelenB · 19/04/2025 09:27

Take it to court, then you have proof of how many nights you have him

I have sent her a solicitors letter as I was told to send the letter before issuing a court order. Bt she ignored the solicitor letter. Didn't sign it .and when the CMS rang her reference what I have told them she refused to answer the phone to them. I have tried everything to avoid going to court.. if she thinks it will mess up any money she receives she won't agree to anything..she would rather tell the courts she will have my son..bt then give him to other ppl

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Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 23:05

Cornetto3 · 19/04/2025 12:16

This is what you need to do

I am going to try this.. just to see what happens..

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Meadowfinch · 21/04/2025 23:10

SkibidiSigma · 21/04/2025 17:16

I would go to court for a custody arrangement to be honest. If it's court ordered it can't be denied.

This.

You should get a court ordered custody arrangement. Find a decent solicitor and submit all your evidence to the court, showing what proportion of nights dc spends with you.

Get it formalised, then CMS can't argue.

Mixedupparent · 21/04/2025 23:17

Unijourney · 21/04/2025 18:57

CMS can't use emails or texts messages with various days agreed because that's easily faked and doesn't represent a firm situation. If the children arrangements are so fluid then there will be doubt. You can expect CMS to go through months of text messages trying to work out how many nights a week over a year you have the child overnight.

What you needed to know was the proof provided by your ex. I assume it was her child benefit claim. If so this is accepted as proof of primary residence.

If the child is young, and it seems pre school then apply to court. As someone mentioned previously the current setup will be assessed by the court, likely using CAFCASS and they will seek evidence. However they will also determine what is in the best interests of the child.

Once a judge determines this you will get an arrangement order which will the paperwork proof that CMS are looking for.

Just apply to court, you can do it yourself of go through a solicitor. Get it done as informal child arrangements can't work if parents are not amicable.

Hiya. Thank you. Yes we have always had a private agreement. It's been this way for over 10 years of my sons life. We r meant to have our son 7nights each out of 14. My nights never change..I always have my son bt on her nights she will always txt and ask do I mind keeping my son..of course I did it so I've happily done this. Always. I've always paid for my son..my ex couldn't b trusted to pay his bills so I contacted each person.. and I pay them directly. So that I know his bills are paid...she has never had a problem with this as she wasn't paying it..I was. N I had him over half the time. Feeding him..clothing him and doing all the father an son thngs. I also told her to lift the child benefit as I never wanted it. So she's had an easy life. Bt in February she just took it upon herself to ring the CMS and she what she could get out of me ( due to me having a high paid job) she lied and gave them the wrong number of nights I have my son and told them a Reem of lies. When I got the txt from them I near died. I thought they had the wrong person. Bt nope they told me I'd to pay her 600 a month..which is hilarious. As she never has our son for more than 2hrs. She never makes meals for him. Pays nthing. So she's got 600 to line her pocket. N no mtr what I've told them they just believe her word..

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