Coming Clean by Liz Fraser

[RhinoRhino]

A couple of threads that I had posted on relating to the Memoir ‘Coming Clean’ by Liz Fraser have been deleted from the MN site, apparently due to non-compliance of the MN guidelines from the posters. MN are obviously well within their rights to delete threads if they demonstrably fail to comply with their guidelines, nevertheless I feel strongly that MN posters are given a platform to critique this book, and also any other public ventures by this author. It would be neither fair nor right that posters are completely silenced in this particular matter.

As such, and in line with Mumsnet not seeing “anything wrong with honest feedback” I would like to make the comment that Coming Clean as a Memoir falls short due to the shaky and not entirely truthful narrative. There are certain facts contained within this memoir that are easily disprovable (for example, relating to the marital status of both author and her partner when they started their ill-fated affair), which leaves a massive question mark over the rest of the book. Is it entirely reasonable to make money from something that is promoted as truthful when it is, in fact, not entirely true?

I think there are people whose lives have been negatively impacted by the book and its subject matter, and I hope that MN will agree that these people should have a voice, as should anybody who wants to comment on a published piece of work.

As long as posters align their comments with the MN guidelines, this is a topic that people may wish to keep discussing, and also keep in the public domain. And if MN wants to provide a set of rules particular to this thread – certainly if they are arbitrary and differ from the general guidelines - I am sure it would be very helpful.

Mumsnet, please help us to help each other by keeping in the public domain something that us silenced mums feel should be out there.

😂

And I'm sure that Mumsnet are completely on board with mums - who have read a 'memoir' about the fallout from a partner's problematic drinking - being able to comment on the publicised drinking habits of the author. Not trolling, not personal, just honest feedback. Well within MN guidelines.

Is the obsession of taking photos of herself with the slightly mad grin that I don’t get , why not just pose normally . She is very happy to be going away without her daughter and leaving her with the supposed abuser

Lol at MISSING FICTION - that's so funny @RhinoRhino and definitely a name far better suited to the 'venture' 😂

I made the choice to never leave the country while my child was with their father, whether they were at home or abroad. My intention was to be readily available for them and to be able to reach them if they ever require my assistance. My life had been profoundly impacted by their father, but not to the extent of having a shortened lifespan, as is/was claimed. I would not be traveling anywhere at all during their first extended period with him. Do leopards change their spots?

Blimey - the latest Twitter selfie (iPad one) 😆😱🤣. I stand in the street and take pics like that of myself all the time of course.

New game - before you read the text, try first to guess what the photo is saying.
The one today is a corker.

Wonder what happened to the Edgeway press intern that is no longer being mentioned

Business travel for freelancers: all business, no leisure. In and out, no extras, not even a weekend if you want tax deductions. Otherwise, HMRC deems it a holiday. As for the travel writer, she could be getting paid to review a Copenhagen hotel for a magazine or newspaper feature. An Italian travel mag is unlikely to commission an article about a Copenhagen hotel, but who knows? 👀 Just a lowly accountant here.

Disposable.

Yesterday, she was watching the Sound of Music on a MacBook Pro, so despite it being her first iPad, she’s not deprived!

Hope she has a TV licence.

She's always doing this 'so excited' to suddenly have what the rest of the world had years ago. It's part of her 'I'm such a simple girl, me' fake act. Like the 'I wear tattered clothes' shite. It's all curated bollocks.

Genuine question here. Would it not be interesting to get feedback from Ms Fraser about her current well-documented drinking habits, and how she rationalises them in relation to the traumatic years spent living with an alcoholic? I'm not judging here, I really am interested to know if the former partner of an alcoholic has a different relationship with alcohol than previously, or if a traumatic relationship with somebody with huge alcohol problems affects drinking habits in any way. I imagine some people following such an awful ordeal would be wary of alcohol, and maybe keep any consumption to a modest level, but that's not to say that's what they should do. Each to their own, and all that.

Maybe it's kudos to a survivor of a relationship affected by alcoholism to have no problem with drinking, along with regularly posting on SM about drinking, but it does make me wonder about the C-PTSD element, and what the triggers might be. If alcohol is not a trigger (nor Venice, for that matter), then what is? Or are we now done with the C-PTSD? Sometimes I can't keep up with the issue of the day, so maybe C-PTSD is just so last season ...........

Anyway, as I say, genuinely interested, so if anybody can shed any light .....

I remember the excited purchase of the Mac Book Pro - possibly with the proceeds of Coming Clean. I think she intended to WRITE lots on it. I'm not a stalker, I remember odd small details about people

I wonder when her hysterical EXCITEMENT about doing mundane THINGS will calm down.
will she not think of her CAPSLOCK key

All the solo parenting nonsense she chose that by not letting her daughter see her dad, and going on about how hard it is, is not sensitive to people who are genuinely alone through difficult circumstances. And I don’t think posting quotes from your child’s school report is a wise thing to do

The travel while she was too poor to heat the house? That’s what she was criticised for. Grifting money to go on holiday while claiming poverty.

I remember the excitement of the manual typewriter and how Edgeways books would be produced on it 🤷‍♀️😂

i will eat my teaching degree if any teacher wrote this:

S has benefitted from lots of experiences from outside school that she often talks to us about.
For example, after her holiday to Venice, she told the class all about it, what she saw, the different geographical features and what she ate, to the point where it had me wanting to book a holiday there!

Its such a shame no solo teacher could afford the rent on her, just so happens, Venice holiday rental!

Those are her words about Venice from the school report you can tell from the style or writing and use of commas. If she is travelling solo how on earth dies age manage to take the photos of herself

Yep. She wrote that

I suspect she’s using the same tripod she usually claims is Scout.

Anyone seen her latest post on Flying Solo. All about how she created a Pinterest board back in 2017 and just happened upon it again a week ago?

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There, I found a board I'd made, called Ideal Life.
I looked at it, shocked to see what I hadn't seen for so long yet recognised so well: and I CRIED, from sheer JOY, RELIEF, incredible memories of these adventures, and total wow.
Why?
Because ... I have made and done ALL OF IT, since I made that board.
I made that life come true.
And I just realised it 🧡

And I've done it all WITH my baby, then toddler, now girl - for her, for me, for us, forever 🧡
I've done this by MYSELF.
I've created, worked for and am living that Ideal Life I set out on Pinterest way back in 2017.
I hadn't realised it until I saw that board, but I BLOODY DID IT. All of it.
I can look at those "dream" photos now, and know that it all came true.
Because I made it happen, against ALL the odds and in such terrible circumstances.
I did it despite it all, and because of who I am.
And I've only just begun to truly fly.

And she told the passport control man that she was there to 'BE FREE and LIVE' or something and he chuckled kindly and waved her through...