Irish posters - "having a paddy"

[BarbaraHoward]

Irish posters - can I canvas your opinions on the use of "having a paddy" to mean "having a tantrum"? I've been having a bit of back and forth (well, plenty of forth not much back in truth) with MNHQ over the past day or two and I want to check that I'm not going against the majority view here.

IMO, the phrase is awful, and plainly anti Irish. I know most people using it aren't doing so to slag Irish people off, but the phrase is still awful IMO.

I've been here a long time, and reported the phrase more than I can remember. Usually, it's just deleted right away. Raising it on a thread always derails it as people just go on the offensive.

I reported it yesterday and got the immediate email that it was being checked out, but the post stayed up for hours despite a follow up email, another post and a thread in Site Stuff. It was then edited rather than deleted, which I thought was the norm for offensive language. I reported another use this morning and it's still up.

What are your views? Is this a fight worth having with MNHQ or am I out of step with the majority of Irish posters on here?

Thanks :)

I just popped back on for a moment.

Jesus youre like talking to a brick wall.No. You twist things.

I have clearly said many times now that it was wrong that England invaded Ireland.

I have also CLEARLY said that no man in any army has any choice on where they are sent to.

That's in any army . I said ANY ARMY , not just the British army.

All armies are pawns that are sent out by older richer men. These older richer men are the ones pulling the strings.

So you telling me that I'm excusing anyone's behaviour, is bullshit and nasty.

And I'm not having it.

You're constantly aggressive and rude. And you're being aggressive and rude for no reason..and to the wrong person.
I'm irish. And I care about Ireland.
I'm also very much for forgiveness and moving on.

I'm not commenting any more on this thread. As some people are so aggressive here .

And I prefer to talk to posters on other threads.

The only one being aggressive and rude is you.

Yes, you have said the british invasion of Ireland was wrong. My issue with your posts is that you, in response to the description of the appalling behaviour by british troops that posters here have experienced, stated they had no choice in where they were sent. By responding in the way you did, it is very difficult to interpret that in any way other than an attempt to excuse their behaviour as how they ended up there is irrelevant.

The fact they are pawns of others is irrelevant to their behaviour in these instances. Why, if you are not trying to excuse their behaviour, did you bring it up as a response to the description of their thuggish behaviour? Obviously if you brought it up in another context I would not be saying you are attempting to excuse their behaviour but you're not. You have only brought it up in response to the descriptions of their behaviour.

The irishman should just lie down with the dogs is what the official response means ... get on and accept it. Over and over again on this forum. And still we stay to hold up the mirror to the abyss. Just can't get rid of us lads, can ye?.

It seems to have gotten much worse lately.

I see it happening in cycles, we are that old thorn in the side @BarbaraHoward no keeping us down, we've never learnt our place 😝

Then why are you here.

Why don't you post on an Irish chat forum?

There is one

Victim mentality.

Give it a rest @Lallydallydune

Here you are again , getting involved in a conversation that is absolutely nothing to do with you.

Was I posting to you? No I wasn't.

Let the posters I quoted, answer for themselves.

It's a public forum @Lallydallydune

Again. I am not talking to you. And I don't want to talk to you.

Let the posters that i quoted speak for themselves. You butt in on every chat here.

If you don't want to talk to me why are you talking to me @Lallydallydune?

You know exactly why.

Because I asked you not to get involved in a conversation that is not yours.
You replied saying "it's a public forum"
So I asked you a second time to not get involved in a conversation that's not yours.

Telling you to "leave me alone for a second time " is not "talking to you".

It's asking you to butt out of a conversation that is nothing to do with you.

You have the habit of replying for other people on this thread. I want to talk to the posters that I quoted. Not you.

For the third time, Leave me alone.

I won't reply to you again.

Unbelievably rude. My jaw actually dropped reading it.
And you say you're Irish?! And yes Jane is right it's a public forum not a private chat, you can't dictate who responds to your posts.

It does go in cycles. We were flavour of the month starting in the mid 90s. Switching back a bit since Brexit. Also noticed an uptick in anti Scottish comments since then. Nothing happens in a vacuum I guess.

Why be here on this forum she thinks it's so awful.

Genuine question. She has done nothing but complain about it here.

And janejeffer has a history on this thread of butting into my conversations. I told her to leave me alone last time. I am sick of her.

Yes I am irish.

My question to the OP is if she thinks it's so awful here on mumsnet, why is she here.?

I just think that this is such an over -reaction.

Mumsmet are doing their best. They are running a large forum and watching loads of posts. They have to look at lots of stuff

Nobody working for mumsnet is setting out to be anti irish/ anti anything.

It's ludicrous to think so, I think

I can't obviously speak for @BarbaraHoward but for me mostly the good outweighs the bad. I like like the people I interact with here, I like the range of topics and the varied responses you get rather than solely posting on an Irish forum... I don't like the dismissive way we're being treated on this issue we have as a collective group of Irish posters but I know other groups have issues with mumsnet moderation too.
Are they good enough reasons for you??
Or should we all just toddle off to boards or wherever you think we should be posting.

'As a collective group of Irish posters'

Correction : "some irish posters"

I'm not that fussed about "having a paddy "being used on mumsnet.

Ideally it would be good if they delete it when it's reported.

But I don't particularly care either way.

It's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.

OP said she has reported it multiple times over years. It seems like it's a big deal for her.

I thought it was obvious that when I referred to a collective group of Irish posters, that I meant those of us that have a problem with the phase, have reported it previously and had responded accordingly to this thread.
Don't worry, I was in no way lumping you in with us 🤣

We stopped calling them "paddy's" (referring to a tantrum) and called them the niknaks instead I've no clue when but I guess it made sense when more Irish people moved to the local area

And no, I was never told it was offensive in any way it was just quietly removed from our vocabulary like the golly was quietly removed from the toybox

None of your business. 🤷

Dammit I wish I said that instead of my rant 😂

That's mature Barbara!