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Are people who live in England planning to visit family in Ireland this summer?

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/06/2021 17:18

I was feeling optimistic but Delta variant is making me less so. I'm fully vaccinated but would still have to isolate 5 days, DS(6) is of course not vaccinated.

I'm also not sure how people in Ireland feel about those flying in from London? Is it a dick move?

And if we fly to NI and lure my parents up to holiday with us, would they have to isolate on returning home?

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Decorhate · 20/07/2021 18:49

@MegCleary Are any of yours teenagers? Did they make a fuss?

MegCleary · 20/07/2021 19:00

13 and was unhappy not finishing 3 days of school……

Decorhate · 20/07/2021 19:42

I suppose at least that means he enjoys school!

MegCleary · 20/07/2021 20:51

Aye

HT1990 · 20/07/2021 20:54

I'm not going in the summer I'm going in November to visit my family.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 21/07/2021 20:35

@TheYearOfSmallThings It's so sad to see, I really don't see the same level of fear and obsession with all things virus in DPs family members of a similar age. They are still washing the shopping messages and avoiding going anywhere busy. These are the same people who I had to beg to give up smoking, drive back from the pub after a few pints, needed encouragement to wear seatbelts, never used a child car seat and allowed us to do all sorts of crazy stuff as kids. All perspective on risk is lost.

Neiphin · 22/07/2021 14:52

*40Covidisdrivingmecrazy

I think if you don't have Irish connections you really underestimate the level of caution and to a degree fear of covid in the south.especially for the older generation.*

Why just in the south of Ireland? The East, West and North of The Republic have had the same level of restrictions throughout the pandemic.

Nettleskeins · 22/07/2021 16:59

The South surely is shorthand for ROI?
As The North is shorthand for Northern Ireland.

Neiphin · 22/07/2021 19:40

Not a term Irish people have ever used or want foisted on to us by others please.

WeatherToday · 22/07/2021 20:11

The South is regularly used by people in NI to describe the Republic of Ireland. I guess it's easier to say, I don't think it's used in a derogatory way.

Neiphin · 22/07/2021 20:27

Historically it was used as an offensive term to the Irish by unionists. We don't like it. Our ancestors fought hard for our freedom. It's not hard to say The republic or northern Ireland and show respect to the people who live on this island.

Neiphin · 22/07/2021 20:32

In all honestly Northern Ireland and the majority of its people have worked very hard to move on from exclusion of the two sides who lived there. They're trying to move forward peacefully and live in harmony forming a more inclusive identity while keeping their various allegiances to The Republic of Ireland and The UK.
It's not too much to request that people stop using offensive out dated terms towards us. I doubt you'd insist on continuing to use terms that are now deemed racist but weren't in recent enough history. Do you not deem Irish and northern Irish people warrant the same respect?

ItPearl · 22/07/2021 20:47

Who is offended by The South though.
Not Me. Born and raised and still living in Dublin.

What upsets me is that every thread about Ireland ends up with snippy reprimands about what to call Ireland!
Eire is the one that annoys me. We dont call Spain España!

ItPearl · 22/07/2021 20:51

The British dont say "it's not England, it's Britain!"
"How dare you, it's the united kingdom"
"No i think you'll find it's great britain and northern ireland"

🙄😴

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/07/2021 20:55

I'm Irish and I'm not offended by The South.

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Nettleskeins · 22/07/2021 22:28

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Irish_state

This is an interesting overview, particularly the last section on media referencing. I take your point Neiphin.

Neiphin · 23/07/2021 01:25

Thank you for that nettleskeins. I'm aware I'm not wording myself eloquently on the subject but it really is important that Ireland and both of its two different states within it get given their proper titles and recognition. It's well over that we move on from any names that originated from sectarianism. Irish people who wouldn't be offended at historical offensive terms been used today by are obviously not properly informed of the origin of how certain language/phrases came about.

As for been Irish and been annoyed by Eire words fail me.

I'm truly not trying to start a bun fight but I think as an Irish person it's my responsibility to correct remarks that are inaccurate, arose from sectarianism and have no place in modern Ireland.
I realise no ill intent was intended when using the outdated term but surely anyone of us would prefer to be given the heads up when using offensive terms.

Covidisdrivingmecrazy · 23/07/2021 10:06

@neiphin I'm Irish ffs. From a border county north / south is literally daily terminology. Politely could you just feck off from our friendly excitable yay we get to go home thread please?

Covidisdrivingmecrazy · 23/07/2021 10:06

Only on mumsnet Biscuit

Neiphin · 23/07/2021 12:23

You're clearly out of touch/determined to remain in the past using ignorant terms on a daily basis.Biscuit
Thankfully most people living on the island of Ireland are embracing leaving the past behind and forming a new way forward.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 23/07/2021 15:13

Thankfully most people living on the island of Ireland are embracing leaving the past behind and forming a new way forward.

Which hopefully involves not rushing to take offence where none was intended, or pick unnecessary fights just for the sake of being right.

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GrinchTastic · 23/07/2021 17:35

I’m Irish and also not offended by “the south”.

Came across the border on Monday; the online passenger website hadn’t quite been updated properly at that stage. Nowhere on the form asked us for our vaccination status, for example. Have had a couple of texts from gov.ie since, about how to access a test if you have any symptoms.

Sssloou · 31/07/2021 08:55

Any ideas how we can manage this situation……we are going for a couple of weeks (all vaccinated, ferry no issues etc) my son is flying out to join us on the Monday and flying back on the Friday. He has only had one vaccination - so needs to do PCR ahead in UK to enter the country, 5 days isolation and the PCR when there to release. BUT he needs to fly back on the 5th day. Can he get his PCR test done instantly somewhere (flight is late in Fri evening) on day 5? How do you access them / how much do they cost? He has already had COVID but it’s past the 180 day threshold for the recovery option.

Sssloou · 31/07/2021 08:58

Also I am travelling by ferry to Dublin and then driving straight to Belfast for a few days before heading down south to Mayo …. so do I need to do 2 passenger locator forms or is there the facility to capture both addresses on the first one?

Nettleskeins · 31/07/2021 13:59

If you are vaccinated only first address is important, as you don't have to quarantine anyway.
You are allowed to leave the country even if in "quarantine", so presumably without five day PCR test as it makes no difference. You could have left on day 4 and it would still have been legal to travel to depart the state. As long as he doesn't visit people, shops, attractions on the way. It isn't illegal to get public transport or a taxi to leave the state either if there is no other means of travelling "to leave"..

Well that was the rule the last time I looked but I'm now vaccinated so haven't had to avail myself of that recently. But it was the rule a month ago.