Are people who live in England planning to visit family in Ireland this summer?

[TheYearOfSmallThings]

I was feeling optimistic but Delta variant is making me less so. I'm fully vaccinated but would still have to isolate 5 days, DS(6) is of course not vaccinated.

I'm also not sure how people in Ireland feel about those flying in from London? Is it a dick move?

And if we fly to NI and lure my parents up to holiday with us, would they have to isolate on returning home?

@Notstrongandstable send them Michaels words, God has spoken .
Well done in going proper channels while I scour social media for answers I like.

On twitter Irish embassy uk says over 12s quarantine 5 days then PCR no word on under 12 yet

Unvaccinated passengers

Passengers without proof of full vaccination will still require evidence of a pre-departure negative RT-PCR test result within 72 hours prior to arrival in Ireland and will have to quarantine at home for 14 days. This can be reduced to a minimum of 5 days with a negative PCR test which will be provided by the Health Service Executive in Ireland from day 5 after arrival. This is also the case for children aged 12 and over.

Children

From 19 July, children under the age of 12 will not need to take a PCR test prior to travelling to Ireland. More information on home quarantine for children under the age of 12 will be provided on the Government of Ireland <a class="break-all" href="https://www.gov.ie/en/campaigns/75d92-covid-19-travel-advice/?referrer=www.gov.ie/travel/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">information pagee in the coming days.

Embassy just emailed me back...so still quarantine for over 12 and sounds like they've not decided yet re under 12..if I've read it correct

Travel from Great Britain to Ireland

From 19th July, specific quarantine arrangements are no longer in place for fully vaccinated passengers travelling from Great Britain. Please visit the relevant Government of Ireland <a class="break-all" href="https://www.gov.ie/en/campaigns/75d92-covid-19-travel-advice/?referrer=www.gov.ie/travel/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">information pagee to ensure you understand all information before booking and travelling. Please be aware that the public health situation, both in Great Britain and Ireland, means that guidance may change at short notice.

All passengers travelling from Great Britain to Ireland

Before arriving in Ireland, passengers travelling from Great Britain will need to complete an online Passenger Locator Formm_, which will be checked by their air or sea carrier before departure. Passengers may also be asked for proof of vaccination or negative PCR test. Individuals travelling from Great Britain to Ireland via Northern Ireland should also complete a passenger locator form and follow the guidance below as it applies to their personal circumstances.

Vaccinated passengers

On arrival in Ireland, fully vaccinated passengers[1] travelling from Great Britain will need to have proof of their full vaccination, for example showing their NHS App Covid Pass, a vaccination status letter or their NHS vaccine paper card.

Sorry I'm not v good at copy & paste. Basically the two messages with the bold headings are what h they sent me

@Notstrongandstable thanks for updating

Just read this on the gov.ie website

www.gov.ie/en/publication/77952-government-advice-on-international-travel/#travelling-with-children

@mydailymailhell need to find you and buy you a pint

I’m just completely nervous this will change or that there is some big mix up! Anyway for now this looks good. Hope everyone who is trying to get home manages to get there

Thanks for that, I've spent too much time refreshing twitter and mumsnet today.
Now just need to worry about PCR tests for kids over 12 and getting them done/back in time considering how many more people are going to be travelling, and not being pinged on the plane with all those unvaccinated untested kids that will be travelling.

Yes I think this is the best we could have hoped for. It does mean my older son won’t come with us as he won’t have had his 2nd jab & is over 18. He does not fancy quarantining if we don’t have to!

Just keeping everything crossed that they don’t apply the handbrake at the last minute.

Way more than I thought we’d get. I am glad I’ve pulled the kids out of school, fingers crossed no calls re bubbles bursting and now we stay in till we travel next week. PCR booked. Beginning to be hopeful

twitter.com/IrelandEmbGB/status/1416083198824570880?s=20
Latest Tweet from embassy of Ireland confirming what has already been said.

Thanks for info, so I only need a pcr test for my 12 year old to return to Ireland so that will work out a bit cheaper!
I've already filed out the passenger locator form for myself and a separate one for my teenage dd( over 16), on my form it asks how many children travelling with me so I put one! It doesn't ask for her name or any details? I believe I don't need to fill out a separate form for her? Is that correct?
One other question if anyone can help, I checked in with Ryanair and it says under each of our names to upload documentation? I didn't know what it meant? So uploaded a photo of my digital covid certificate but it is still saying upload documents?
I haven't a clue, anyone in the know? TIA

Many thanks for all the support and chat over the last few days.

I've a further question - DS turns 12 in a couple of weeks. We were going to travel after that but for various reasons (mainly "freedom" day related), I am thinking of travelling before. He will turn 12 in Ireland. Does he need a PCR?
Who should I ask? Michael O'Leary?

I would interpret it as he doesn't need a PCR as he will be under 12 at the time of travel into Ireland. If they meant "and still under 12 for at least two weeks after arrival" they'd have to have specified that, as it would be a very arbitrary amount of time.

Then again, who knows?

@SecondRow

I would interpret it as he doesn't need a PCR as he will be under 12 at the time of travel into Ireland. If they meant "and still under 12 for at least two weeks after arrival" they'd have to have specified that, as it would be a very arbitrary amount of time.

Then again, who knows?

Yes - I mean we could be coming to stay for six months!

My concern is that he counts as 12 according to the airline for their prices as they include return flight date.
I don't want to be turned away at the airport though.
Maybe I'll just do it, I don't want to bring him to Ireland if he has covid.
(I am generally worried that PCR tests won't be back in time but I have a teenager who needs a test anyway).

I would do it in that instance rather than get caught out but I am a fierce over worrier. And yep thanks for all the chats and support. Am am but lost today not searching, tweeting and checking all day . Bet they change them next week

I see what you mean but that hopefully shouldn't affect it as the Irish authorities would be keeping records based on the DOB filled in on the passenger location form rather than anything they receive from the airline - I would think.

It's a good bit of money to shell out if you don't need it, but I would be the same and nervous up to the day of travel if there was any uncertainty. I suppose you could email the embassy?

Thanks.
Tests are £119. I know I can get cheaper but a friend used them last week and got results in 24 hours. I'll have to pay to change my flights as well.
I think I am going to do it, I just want to get to Ireland at this stage, it's been too long.

Delighted people are finally getting to go.
Just looked..no flights from our nearest airport til mid August!
Might have to brave LHR

Hi everyone, we are hoping to travel by ferry to Ireland next Sunday. Both my husband and I are fully vacced - my 12 year old had COVID 4 weeks ago. The rules say that if you have evidence of recovery you do not need a PCR test. Has anyone figured out what evidence counts? I mailed Stenaline who didn’t know (despite stating it on their website!)- it appears that the NHS app is only for children over 15 so it doesn’t sound like I can use that to evidence this? We do have an email with his positive PCR test from 4 weeks ago. Any intel welcome!

Wow, thank you all for your persistence and research. I would still be finding the situation as clear as mud without your help!