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Lifestyle shock/adjustment following separation and becoming a single father.

92 replies

PureRed1992 · 10/09/2024 19:17

Hi all,

Apologies in advance I know this is all very much 1st world problems. I know that I'm in what is, certainly in relative terms to others, a very fortunate position. I know I'm going to be judged for this post, and that's okay. I deserve judgement. But I needed to get this off my chest in the hope that someone has an idea.

That said, since becoming a single parent, my children and I have had to have a big adjustment downwards in terms of our lifestyle and I'm struggling to budget and know where to cut our spending.

This year I separated from my now ex-wife (children's mother). When we were married, we lived a comfortable life... we were both high earners in senior management roles and had a very comfortable lifestyle. We wouldn't have called ourselves rich, but pretty much everyone else did.

We went on holiday 5x every year, went skiing in the winter, drove nice cars and ate out most nights. I went for years not looking at my bank statements when I used my card, which I know is bad.

My four children (DS8, DD7, DS3 and DD 3 months) live with me full time, my ex-wife pays a total of £4500 per month in child maintenance and spousal support. I recieve higher rate PIP since having a car accident 12 years ago which left me with chronic pain, my eldest DD (age 7) also receives higher rate DLA due to her disability.

Two of my children are diagnosed with ASD/PDA (including DD7).

Now between what my ex-wife pays and my limited income from my B2L investments plus the DLA/PIP I'm really feeling the pinch. I know I shouldn't be, and I feel awful even writing this but I don't know where to cut down on spending. I'm still spending money as I was when we were married and between us bringing home 8x what I'm getting now in total.

How on earth do people survive on limited incomes? And I don't mean where I am now, people survive only on benefits.. how?

My family all live in my home country so I have no childcare at all, due to domestic violence I have an injunction against my ex wife so she's not involved in the children's lives at all. Her family all don't want to know either where before they were really supportive and helpful.

Due to their additional needs my children are home-educated and DD7 needs pretty much 24/7 supervision. I'm exhausted, and there's what feels like no help at all.

I downsized into a smaller home after we separated in a new area, I self-referred to children's social services and asked about respite care and support. They told me that they wouldn't help because my children weren't at risk and we weren't on what would be defined as a low income because I'm ineligible for universal credit. I haven't heard from them since. It feels like all they did really was give me a pat on the head and tell me I'm on my own. Which I am.

I'm exhausted, and I know I need help but I don't know where to turn if there even is anywhere to turn. I don't want to hire a nanny as I know it will disrupt the children's routine and they will struggle more even though it would make my life easier.

I've been a British citizen and passport holder for 6 years now, since moving to the UK I was always a high rate tax payer, my children have only ever lived here and are all British citizens and habitual English speakers.

Now it feels like my only option is to move my children and I to my home country where at least I have my parents and my sister to help. But I don't want to do that because I don't feel it to be fair to the kids, they've only ever known life in this country and have only visited Spain twice in their life.

Hoping someone, somewhere has some creative solution because at this rate I'm on track for burnout and bankruptcy.

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 11/09/2024 22:53

Why did you have to get a non molestation order after your divorce if things have been amicable?

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:00

"We've had to cut back on holidays quite a bit."

What from five plus the skiing, to just two or three?

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 11/09/2024 23:02

You were planning to separate for a while and you're already divorced and now have a non molestation order, why on earth did you have a fourth child in the middle of a divorce?

You don't eat at home, you shouldn't need a cleaner for 20 hours a week. Is your cleaner doing all the laundry too? If there's that much laundry you'd probably be cheaper using an industrial machine a couple of times a week rather than 4 loads daily at home. Freeing up more time.

You've ignored the school questions. Why can't you put your 3 year old in nursery? Or 8 year old in school? You don't need to homeschool a 3 year old so what do you do with them while you are homeschooling the older children?

Mortgage free on your home, you need to be realistic with what you are buying that you don't need to be spending over £6000 a month. That's not counting your rental income.

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:03

Amazing though that you've managed to squeeze in a divorce since Christmas, buy your now home, sell your second car (!) and keep up all the music tutoring.

GingerScallop · 11/09/2024 23:06

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:00

"We've had to cut back on holidays quite a bit."

What from five plus the skiing, to just two or three?

I thught he said he has had one holiday a year now?

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:07

GingerScallop · 11/09/2024 23:06

I thught he said he has had one holiday a year now?

He hasn't even been split from his ex for nine months yet, so...

TheShellBeach · 11/09/2024 23:08

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:03

Amazing though that you've managed to squeeze in a divorce since Christmas, buy your now home, sell your second car (!) and keep up all the music tutoring.

And all this while looking after a newborn baby.
Hmm

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 11/09/2024 23:08

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:03

Amazing though that you've managed to squeeze in a divorce since Christmas, buy your now home, sell your second car (!) and keep up all the music tutoring.

Don't forget having a baby when they knew for a long time they were separating AND get a non molestation order since the divorce.

Impressive time management but can't budget £1500+ a week.

Oldgalgames · 11/09/2024 23:09

No mortgage, BTL income, 4.5k CM and disability benefit ontop and you can't manage financially? Stop the world and let me get off

GingerScallop · 11/09/2024 23:11

Op, it feels like everything is on top of you and so you really havent had time to reflect. Its ok to move your kids to spain but I can understand why divorce plus country move feels too muuch. But cut down cleaning hours, replace 75% of take aways with supermarket meals. Make a complete list of your outgoings and mumsnet will help you adjust.

ObliviousCoalmine · 11/09/2024 23:12

I just don't believe anyone can legitimately be this stupid?

LaundryShoulderBag · 11/09/2024 23:12

ObliviousCoalmine · 11/09/2024 23:12

I just don't believe anyone can legitimately be this stupid?

I can't believe people post serious replies

LaMontser · 11/09/2024 23:24

I mean this is obvious balls. I was clearing around 5.5k a month when I was earning £120k and you’re getting advice on cancelling sky tv and changing your electricity tariff?

Gave up your second car? Cut back on the holidays? Did you, aye?

Give my head peace.

SleepPrettyDarling · 11/09/2024 23:27

I’m going to take this at face value. You are completely overwhelmed with four tiny children including a newborn, special needs, homeschooling, laundry, clutter, and a legacy lifestyle that's now out of reach. You need help. You don’t need more money, you need better systems and some hands-on help.

If you are totally committed to homeschooling, look at a nursery for DC3.

Reconsider schools for your older two.

What do you want life to look like in five years?

Did you make pension contributions when you were working?

Is there a care package that might be available through your council for your daughter’s needs?

TheRavenSaid · 11/09/2024 23:36

You're paying £1000 a month in rental fees?
You must have a lot of/expensive properties

Your paying a cleaner for 20 hours a WEEK??? Seriously??

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 11/09/2024 23:37

@PureRed1992 what does your ex wife work at if you dont work? does she have the children at weekends?

ObliviousCoalmine · 11/09/2024 23:38

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outdamnedspots · 11/09/2024 23:41

How have you been receiving PIP since a car accident 12 years ago but also in a high-earning job until a year ago??

A cleaner for 20 hours a week???

You get 4.5k per month from your ex?? And also have income from BTL properties???

Fuck me. You don't know you're born.

outdamnedspots · 11/09/2024 23:42

And you were both high earners on five holidays a year but didn't give a thought to savings and pensions??? Wtf???

Curtainsformeplease · 11/09/2024 23:46

You are getting PIP after a bad car accident but you go skiing every year?

ObliviousCoalmine · 11/09/2024 23:46

Not so snappy with the replies now?

pinkdelight · 12/09/2024 00:05

You've got a huge income and you're wasting most of it.

This. You don't need to move to Spain. Just come down to earth and live within the extremely ample amount you have.

StormingNorman · 12/09/2024 00:14

PureRed1992 · 11/09/2024 21:10

It's through an agency so I do change things around for more/less depending on what we're doing. On average my bill to the agency is about £1000 per month, it's the same agency I used when I was married.

It's been more since I've been on my own with the kids as there's so much to do and so little time to do it in.

You aren’t going to make major savings without cutting corners. Could you try having a cleaner for 15 hours a week? This could save you £400 per month.

Do you shop around for car insurance or go through a broker? The broker my DH swears by can never beat my Compare The Market quotes.

How are you for freezer space? Batch cooking will save you money on eating out and is actually really convenient. You’ll always have something which just needs reheating in the freezer. If you really can’t bear it, Cook are good quality freezer meals. Relatively expensive but cheaper than a restaurant. They deliver too.

And get onto the energy companies to sort out your tariffs!

StormingNorman · 12/09/2024 00:16

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 11/09/2024 23:37

@PureRed1992 what does your ex wife work at if you dont work? does she have the children at weekends?

Read the OP’s posts. Ex has no involvement, court ordered due to DV.

WhoOfWhoville · 12/09/2024 00:23

I can’t get my bloody breath 🤯