Cost of olive oil

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I didn't buy my usual bottle of Olivia's oil in Aldi a couple of weeks ago because it was over £6....today...it's £7.29 😳

Why?

This is just nonsense. If you want to read the science, try this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9962526/ which is A Comprehensive Review of Health-Benefiting Components in Rapeseed Oil (so not just one study before anyone plays the Big Rapeseed card).

TLDR: Rapeseed oil...is well-known for its high content of unsaturated fatty acids, especially polyunsaturated fatty acids, which make it of great nutritional value. There is increasing evidence that a diet rich in unsaturated fatty acids offers health benefits.

And yet the main component of rapeseed oil has been illegal in the USA - which is hardly known for its nanny state tendancies - since the 1970s.

Oh I’m glad it’s due to crops not a general price hike. At least we can look forward to a reduction. Aldi iis the cheapest I can find.

I think there’s some misinformation going round about rapeseed oil. Not sure if it’s US GM crops or what but my understanding is that it’s very good for you. This is when you need Michael Mosely god bless him.

I looked into this a while ago and although it was confusing I came to the conclusion that much of the problem with rapeseed was the heat extraction method which causes free radicals/inflammatory properties, and that on balance when looking for a high-smokepoint oil cold-pressed rapeseed was an ok choice if you can't afford avocado.

I'd be v interested to see any research you've come across - not trying to trip you up, genuinely interested.

I don't think that's true - there are two kinds of rapeseed oil and only one is okayed for cooking in the States. The other is industrial and isn't available over here at all.

It just has less of the toxic ingredient.

Yes, but this research says that the health benefits are primarily in cold-pressed oil, doesn't it?

Most of the rapeseed oil sold is not cold-pressed. And we use so much of it now - takeaways, almost all processed food including vegan food - that the poor ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 *in processed oil, not cold-pressed) a problem too because the omega 3s become trans fats.

What do you think the main component of rapeseed oil is?

Olive oil was such a staple for me since forever but I no longer buy it. We're actually doing ok financially but I can't justify £7 on a bottle.

@boombang 's "not fit for human consumption" response was to a recommendation for Lidl Cold Pressed Rapeseed Oil.

Eruric acid

New cultivars contain quite a lot less I think - the old ones had 50% and the EU standard is 2%, so that's quite a big difference.

What high-smoke-point oil do you use Coldia (sorry if I missed this already).

Also worth knowing that non- extra virgin olive oil is chemically- and heat-processed which destroys many of the nutritional benefits on which its reputation for being healthy rests.

It's really got to be EVOO which is even more expensive.

It's a bloody nightmare tbh, wish I'd never heard of UPFs but I can't unsee it now!

1. It is not the main component of Rapeseed Oil.
2. It is not illegal in the US, it is limited to a maximum of 2%
3. It is not generally considered to be a health risk but there is some evidence to suggest that in very high doses it might have adverse effects on children under 10.

Large bottle of Il Casolare is 16 quid now, I repeat - sixteen! Used to be 10£ for 1L bottle. "Fancy" oils like avocado, grape seed or walnut work out the same or cheaper at this point.

Yes, but I got the impression they were speaking generally rather than about cold-pressed in particular - I may be wrong, though.

Do you cook with EV oil as well as use it in salads? That would cost a fortune if so. I use light oil to cook with and save the EV for using cold in salads/drizzling on things.

What high-smoke-point oil do you use Coldia (sorry if I missed this already).

LOL! 😂 😂

Well, as we're just having a regular conversation, as regular people do, about toxic oils and their toxic effects on the human body and the environment, I I'm more than happy to answer this.

It depends on what I'm cooking.

For a medium high smoke point, olive oil. Not extra virgin. I spread it across the pan with a wooden spoon as it heats so it covers a greater area.

For higher than that, if it fits the recipe, sesame oil.

If it doesn't fit the recipe/requires higher then lard/fat/butter.

Or, if I'm going to be adding other emollients later, eg if all I want to do is break down onions, then water will suffice. I have a good, seasoned, pan.

Same as most people, I have no need of rapeseed oil or sunflower oil.

@soupfiend I've starting roasting or microwaving them whole (poke holes first) which uses a lot less oil.

zoe.com/learn/are-seed-oils-bad-for-you?utm_source=google_pmax&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=20382344316&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gclid=CjwKCAjwnK60BhA9EiwAmpHZw1woNIM2ASNi787BnjmVqZccJSxWFh-g5RQisTP3dpecNuinsXdnZxoCCD4QAvD_BwE

Thanks. Why not extra virgin though, other than cost? it's smoke point is 190+, deep frying usually is 170? It retains it's polyphenols etc in comparison to chemically processed olive oil.

And if it's on the basis of cost, you probably understand that others with less cash will also have cost as a factor in choosing rapeseed, ie with 'have need' for it?

Thanks for that @greengreyblue - I had already read the transcript of the Zoe podcast, but i hadn't seen that page which seems to be even more firmly on the side of 'it's UPFs and not seed oils themselves which are the problem.'

I'm going to carry on using a mixture - probably deep frying (rare) with cold-pressed rapeseed from Lidl and using EVOO for the rest.

"Seed oils" sounds so much better than "cloudy fat based industrial run-off" doesn't it?

I find it affects the taste regardless of nominal smoking point.