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I need to reimburse money that my dad loses

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:13

I have moved in with my dad, we share utility bills etc. I own half of the house because my mum died. He is losing some benefit money and he has said that I need to pay him what I lose. I really don't understand this and it's stressing me out! Any help would be appreciated 🙏

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:14

Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:13

I have moved in with my dad, we share utility bills etc. I own half of the house because my mum died. He is losing some benefit money and he has said that I need to pay him what I lose. I really don't understand this and it's stressing me out! Any help would be appreciated 🙏

Sorry what he loses, not what I lose.

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beachyhead · 27/09/2023 17:17

It might be the single persons allowance on council tax?

Hellocatshome · 27/09/2023 17:17

Is there any mortgage on the house?

Hellocatshome · 27/09/2023 17:18

But yes it will be the single person benefits he loses. Does he need you to make up the shortfall to survive or is he just being a cheeky sod, only you will know. What are you doing re paying for food etc?

Lucanus · 27/09/2023 17:19

You each own half the house, so no reason why you should need to compensate him for the loss of any benefits / council tax reduction that he might have had as a single person.

Singleandproud · 27/09/2023 17:19

Single people get £250 reduction on their council tax so hell want you to cover that.

He may also lose other benefits as their is someone else in the household But your contribution to utilities and household bits should cover that, you shouldn't have to make up his benefit money and then pay towards the house.

Floralnomad · 27/09/2023 17:22

You should be paying half of the council tax . What is he actually saying you need to pay ?

BranchGold · 27/09/2023 17:23

has he explained what costs he’s talking about?

I understand he would have received a single person reduction on council tax (25%), but then he’s gone from paying 75% alone to now paying 50% shared, yes?

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:23

He pays £20 towards food. There is no mortgage. Both my husband and 2 children have moved in. We have partially renovated the downstairs, with a little financial support off my dad. I do everything, cooking, cleaning shopping, washing etc.

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SilkandSteel1 · 27/09/2023 17:24

Yes, if you are paying your 50% of the council tax he won't be any worse off for losing the single person discount

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:25

beachyhead · 27/09/2023 17:17

It might be the single persons allowance on council tax?

It's the employment support allowance, he is losing.

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ChristmasCrumpet · 27/09/2023 17:25

So what exactly does he want you to pay.

"The money I lose" means nothing.

Quantify it.

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2023 17:26

How old is your dad?

dimples76 · 27/09/2023 17:27

It can't be Council Tax because he will have been paying 75% of full bill but will now be paying 50%. There will be other savings as well with water, gas and electricity. So not sure what benefits he would lose but the savings need to be taken into account as well. I think that you need more details from him. Legally you don't need to pay him but if he is going to struggle financially then I would explore the numbers with him.

AllWeWantToDo · 27/09/2023 17:28

Why would he lose esa because you live there

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2023 17:30

He must be receiving income-related ESA. From the gov website:

If you get income-related ESA:

Your household income and savings worth £6,000 or more may affect how much you can get.

This is presumably why his claim has decreased.

What is his situation- why can’t he work? He could be entitled to disability elementary, for instance.

LIZS · 27/09/2023 17:30

He shouldn't lose esa itself, but might uc as based on household income and the 25% council tax reduction for single occupancy.

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:30

ChristmasCrumpet · 27/09/2023 17:25

So what exactly does he want you to pay.

"The money I lose" means nothing.

Quantify it.

I meant to say the money he loses. So, he will lose £270 from Employment support allowance

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BluesandClues · 27/09/2023 17:30

I really don’t think he should be loosing esa due to living with you. That doesn’t seem right at all.

Original poster
Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:30

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2023 17:26

How old is your dad?

62

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Brats4kid · 27/09/2023 17:31

AllWeWantToDo · 27/09/2023 17:28

Why would he lose esa because you live there

That is what the letter says 🙄

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chopc · 27/09/2023 17:31

Is he losing this allowance as you have moved in? If so he wants you to cover it

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2023 17:32

How much does he get per month overall now?

What were his costs before, and what are his costs now?

When you know if you’re costing him money or saving him money then you can discuss it sensibly.

OldTinHat · 27/09/2023 17:32

He will lose certain benefits as he is no longer a single adult living in the home.

You will all need to sit down and work out your finances. He may well have been better off financially before you all moved in and he shouldn't have to be out of pocket because of that. The household will be far more expensive to run with you in it.

Did he ask you to move in or did you just decide to move in as you've inherited?

Grumpyold · 27/09/2023 17:33

Benefits are based on household income so he'll be losing money becuase he lives with you.

A young colleague of mine is the only working adult in her household, her parents have lived on benefits for decades, but their benefits were reduced when she started work so she's now supporting all of them.