What are your hearing about vaccine side effects? Have done a quick Google sounds as if worse with Moderna than Pfizer, but Moderna more effective?

[loveyouradvice]

Gosh - I seem to have typed it all into the title!! What have you heard?

I've reacted badly to some vaccines in the past and not at all once, so Im keen to find one that has less side effects.

But I'm a bit concerned if it is less effective!!

Also not sure about availability - as if it is Pfizer, it seems to be in shorter supply??

Have you not had multiple vaccines already like most other people op? Or is this just a Covid vaccines kill people thread again?

I've had both and took no reaction whatsoever. If for some bizarre reason you've not had any vaccine whatsoever yet and often take reactions I wouldn't bother now. Covid is endemic and the majority of the population is vaccinated.

My elderly parents in Belgium have just had their booster - they are fit and well and what to remain so.

Because a cycling magazine is the same as a peer reviewed journal 😂 If someone has to set up their own journal to publish their own work I’d say that’s good grounds for being sceptical of the claims it makes.

Do you seriously think I have nothing better to do than review an article and search for evidence? I’m not a vaccines expert, I’m not virus expert, and I’m not an epidemiology expert so I tend to trust those who are, who have expertise, qualifications, and who have devoted their working lives to their study, rather than the dodgy claims or self published evidence presented by someone on Mumsnet.

I'm in Sweden and had my covid vaccine last week and am going for my flu one today. I also want to stay as fit and well as I can. I couldn't have them both at the same time as one of my arms is recovering from a serious injury and I couldn't cope with it being jabbed.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

I trust the experts.

I get it because I have brittle asthma

Please just go away and enjoy your superior wisdom and leave the poor "sheeple" alone. I'll go get my booster soon.

I trust the expert I'm married to.

Yes, I trust my mother the doctor and my sister the epidemiologist and all their friends and colleagues, all of whom say the vaccines are safe and effective (to a point) and worth having.

Definitely trust them over a random poster whose interpretation of the science is based on their experience working for a cycling magazine.

For those who have had a reaction, I had the updated Novavax vaccine, which is a traditional vaccine and didn't even have so much as a sore arm afterwards. I paid to have it privately as I don't qualify for boosting under the NHS, but it is available in the UK and might be worth asking your GP about.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/novavax-covid-vaccine#:~:text=But%2C%20unlike%20the%20other%20vaccines,of%20antibodies%20and%20T%2Dcells.

I’m also married to an expert - he’s never let us down

Can I ask why you chose to have the traditional vaccine?
from the sounds of it you trusted that the Mrna ones were also safe and effective and were also amazing new safe technology better than previous vaccines, so why not pay for the Mrna?

I declined the covid vaccine last year. Then got covid- was really poorly and had a severe headache which resisted painkillers. Lost a stone (every cloud eh?) - no appetite
I’ve not declined it this time. Had Moderna ‘Spikevax’ and had a really sore arm but fine after a few days

Hi all... so I had the Pfizer yesterday.

I recognise the information out there is imperfect but I made the best choice I could for me - I'm over 60 and vulnerable and I would have got the Moderna for free, but I chose to pay for Pfizer. So far, I had Pfizer last year too and apart from tiredness and a slightly sore arm it has not had a big impact then or now. Previously vaccines have given me very bad side effects for several weeks - this is my fifth.

I've also had Covid three times - twice long lasting and I still have lungs that are affected.

Interestingly the chemist who gave me the vaccine said, he didn't understand why as the composition is so similar but what he sees if that those who react to Moderna continue to react to Moderna, and those to Pfizer do to Pfizer but he hasn't seen more reactions to one than the other. I recognise this is anecdotal but better than nowt

You wouldn't necessarily know if you or your DH has had it. Many people have had an asymptomatic case

@Robbinz

Hmmmm, very sorry to hear that. It is far more common than we have been led to believe. Yet some on here will call you a tin foil hat wearer!
Well yes. When you think you are more aware than other people because you believe Covid was created simply to advance the use of vaccines then yep.

For a variety of reasons -

-I didn't particularly have an opinion about mrna being better or safer, it was just all that was available at the time, so I took it happily and gratefully.

-The recent Novavax update seems to have very good efficacy across different strains.

-My mother (a GP) says that (anecdotally) her patients have had very little reaction in terms of sore arm, fever, fatigue from this one.

-I have Hashimoto's, which thankfully gives me very few problems, and like to provoke my immune system as little as possible and I know I'm generally fine with traditional vaccines. Although I was also fine with the two Pfizer doses I had, I like to err on the side of being conservative, thus the decision to have a booster.

I believe those who conduct comprehensive peer reviewed research and understand how to interpret the data and those on the ground who see patients every day, over and over and over.

If some minority of doctors and nurses refused to take the vaccine initially, it was out of fear and skepticism, not informed decision making.

You're an absolutely classic whataboutist. Your experience at a cycling magazine makes you an expert on vaccination and infectious disease. You believe people being as misinformed as you are is a definitive statement. You believe the virus was created for the vaccine.

It's one thing to be hard of thinking. It's another to believe it makes you smarter than the rest of us. Good lord.

@Mummyford has family members who are experts as do I, these are the experts we trust rather than antivaxxers with limited understanding of medicine and virology.

Bit like inviting Jessica Fletcher to your house for the weekend...

I'm amazed anyone wanted to spend any time with her given the body count!