What are your hearing about vaccine side effects? Have done a quick Google sounds as if worse with Moderna than Pfizer, but Moderna more effective?

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Gosh - I seem to have typed it all into the title!! What have you heard?

I've reacted badly to some vaccines in the past and not at all once, so Im keen to find one that has less side effects.

But I'm a bit concerned if it is less effective!!

Also not sure about availability - as if it is Pfizer, it seems to be in shorter supply??

I also had heart palpitations within days of the vaccine…I then had an onslaught of the worst headaches In the world and a terrible nose bleed that led me to be diagnosed with extremely high blood pressure and a tachycardia. I was 37 and a size 10 with previous normal to low blood pressure.

Personally I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, but that's a personal choice, and that's the key thing.

At the beginning there was no informed consent and it was being pushed on people on the threat of being a social leper.

Now there is sufficient data for those so inclined to do their own research and make an informed decision.

The vaccine cannot halt covid's spread or evolution, so it all comes down to personal choices.

Had both covid and flu vaccines at same time. No side effects. Grateful to be given them.

Pray tell where you get your 'information' and 'research' from exactly?
Are you sufficiently scientifically/medically qualified in the several areas of expertise needed (in other words at least a PhD and several years research experience)?

Well you're not being offered covid boosters in your age group anyway. It's for over 65s.
I don't know anyone adversely affect by the vaccines but I do know a several people who died, 2 were younger than 60 and 2 with really bad long covid.

U OK hun?

PhD in physics, 20 years + lecturing, so capable of researching a scientific subject, yes.

"The vaccine cannot halt covid's spread or evolution." And that's why they make new versions of the vaccine, just as they do with flu.

I've had the lot. Reacted badly to Astra Zenica, reacted dreadfully to Pfizer (but reaction delayed by 12 hours) and had a different but heavy reaction to Moderna, which I didn't like.

This year I'm old enough to be offered both COVID and the flu vaccination, which I had together for the first time, one in each arm. I'm not sure which version of COVID vaccine it was, I believe Moderna but not sure. I waited for the usual reaction and nothing happened at all, except a bit of a sore arm. I was absolutely delighted.

Exactly right, if you read my original post I state quite clearly its a personal choice whether to have a vaccine (or indeed any medication) or not to.

Whether that medication is efficacious or not is not the issue, in the case of the flu and covid vaccine you care correct, they are both updated, although particularly in the case of covid, due to the pace of mutation they are a little behind the curve.

I have a PhD in medical biochemistry but certainly wouldn't assume knowledge in physics. Not sure why you think a physics PhD gives you any great ability in biochemistry, virology or pharmacology. 🫣

That stat quoted is ridiculous, by that stage virtually all people in that age group would have been vaccinated, therefore the majority of people who died from any cause (mostly old age by 80-89) would be vaccinated.......correlation not causation.

I take a broad interest, always have, my own background is in health physics, but I've hung around medicine a lot, worked with various surgeons down the years developing new ideas, hold a couple of patents for medical devices. Have a fully equipped lab at home - life is for learning.

Sure.

You should have read the end of the article to where it cautions about people like you misrepresenting information.

'A final reflection concerns the wide diffusion that the subject matter of the present commentary has had in non-specialized media and in the web. In this delicate moment for the whole humankind, news on scientific research is awaited with great apprehension all around the world, and researchers are probably not prepared to communicate their results in an adequate way to such a state of tension. As an example, in a paper here commented is said that ‘ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect … ’ [1], suggesting a sort of data picking, highlighting the most impressive and concealing the less appealing ones. Perhaps for this reason, the paper has been used, distorting its comprehensive meaning, to support conspiracy theories and to foster vaccine hesitancy.'

I don't think anyone here can answer this question for you, you need to talk to a doctor. If you've had reactions to vaccines in the past, it might be that there's a common component of those vaccines - hopefully a doctor would know what it is and whether it's in either vaccine. We don't. They might also have stats on effectiveness.

All you're likely to get here is either people telling you their side effect (which is fair enough, but they're not you) or people telling you how much worse their COVID was than their vaccine (same thing!)

I've had no effects from three Pfizer shots. I also think these vaccines are a complete waste of time for most people, but I don't think they are harmful.

I had Moderna in May this year and my arm was very sore compared to Pfizer. I also got Covid a month later. I'm eligible for antivirals so I took them.

I liked the Pfizer one I wish I could still get it!

This is published in Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law. It’s literally Peter McCullough’s own journal that he set up in the last few years and publishes in himself. It’s mostly full of anti covid jab papers. This is not an independent/neutral/scientifically rigorous journal.

He’s publishing his own work. That’s not independent. It’s the opposite of independent.

I had the Moderna this year, having had the Pfizer in 2020, 2021, 2022. I didn’t get round to the booster in 2023 and Covid took me out for nearly 3 weeks so I made sure to get it this year. I did feel terrible for a few days and had a monstrously sore arm, but it’s still better than COVID. All things considered, I’ll get my booster next year but find somewhere that isn’t doing Moderna!