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Anyone thinking about skipping the latest booster?

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WoolyMammoth55 · 26/09/2023 12:11

I've had 3 jabs in total so far, and the last one made me REALLY poorly - couldn't get out of bed for a few days, crazy fever, hallucinating.

They didn't stop me getting Covid, which I've had 2 positive tests for since the first jab, and which was mild compared to how bad I was after the last booster!

I've been invited for the next booster and just can't see why I'd get it. I've had 3 jabs already so must have some protection, right? And since I keep getting it despite the jabs, I'm fairly likely to get it again in the next 6 months whether I do or don't get jabbed?

I can't see the upside.

I'm studying hard for a career change and have 2 little kids. If I had a reaction like last time I'd really struggle to keep all the balls in the air...

I'm being offered the booster because of my high BMI but don't have any co-morbidities, blood pressure good, not pre-diabetic, generally well.

Curious to know what others are thinking?

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BatildaB · 29/09/2023 22:43

cptartapp · 27/09/2023 13:35

I'm a nurse and won't be having anymore. Have had cardiac issues since Covid kicked off and was admitted with a heart rate of over 160 two days after the last vaccine. Then inappropriate tachycardia for months. Tinnitus, muscle twitching, vestibular problems.
Had Covid two weeks ago and was in bed for two days but no more vaccines for me.

Hi @cptartapp , just wondering if you got any information about why it causes tachycardia as you had to be admitted? I had awful constant high heart rate for a week after the booster but by the time I got a GP appt it was sporadic and I was in normal range for the test they did. I’ve since bought an apple watch and can see (and feel!) the occasional spikes up to over 100, sometime 120, at rest, when my usual heart rate is well below 70. It happens further and further apart but it still scares me that some kind of damage has happened to my heart. Do you understand what caused yours, and has it got completely better now?

CoreopsisEverywhere · 29/09/2023 22:48

I had mine today along with a flu jab. I’m eligible because I have asthma.

I’ve never had Covid (to my knowledge) and I’d like to keep it that way.

lubylo · 30/09/2023 01:54

Alarming to say the least, in my mind anyway.

x.com/robinmonotti/status/1707866498541211710?s=46&t=OUdAtbyaZ6dfCdggD1gWbQ

SaltyOne · 30/09/2023 02:16

lubylo · 30/09/2023 01:54

A quote from that post:

"All these cancers are occurring (with very few exceptions) in patients who have been forced to have a Covid booster whether they were keen or not, for many so they could travel."

Seems ridiculously selective? How is that even possible?
I think you need to brush up on your sources.

BeethovenNinth · 30/09/2023 06:12

Definitely. Not

I have had covid once - and never again I don’t think - anyone else? I haven’t had any covid vaccines.

I have noticed they seem to prevent infection better in elderly people. So my DM’s friends are all on their seventh boosters and doing ok. The multiply booster younger people seem to keep getting infected. I assumed this was due to the fact elderly people aren’t around kids as much but I’m not so sure

MiniBossFromAus · 30/09/2023 07:01

I regret having a second booster and only had it as I had to travel. This vaccine was hurried through the approval process and I don't think it has gone through any retrospective review / approval that would meet the usual approval and testing processes (I may be wrong).

No more boosters for me.

Parker231 · 30/09/2023 07:21

MiniBossFromAus · 30/09/2023 07:01

I regret having a second booster and only had it as I had to travel. This vaccine was hurried through the approval process and I don't think it has gone through any retrospective review / approval that would meet the usual approval and testing processes (I may be wrong).

No more boosters for me.

The vaccine didn’t skip the required testing. The development and implementation planning phases have been run side-by side, instead of one after the other. This has been made possible because of unprecedented global funding.
In addition, research into how to respond to a pandemic has been occurring long before COVID-19.
This research looks at data from previous coronaviruses such as SARS in 2002 and MERS in 2012, giving researchers a head start when it comes to building the COVID-19 vaccines.

lubylo · 30/09/2023 07:38

Saltyone could be quite correct, I mean, who would ever believe anything from that source, Angus Dalgleish Professor of Oncology at St Georges Hospital Medical School London.

sunglassesonthetable · 30/09/2023 08:03

*I regret having a second booster and only had it as I had to travel. This vaccine was hurried through the approval process and I don't think it has gone through any retrospective review / approval that would meet the usual approval and testing processes (I may be wrong).

No more boosters for me.*

You are totally wrong. But hey.

Twiglets1 · 30/09/2023 08:19

Marmunia10667 · 27/09/2023 18:00

My friend AND her daughter (17) both have cardiac problems after the Pfizer. Both on medication. Perfectly fine before.

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The odds of that are .... unbelievably tiny

SallyWD · 30/09/2023 08:47

Twiglets1 · 30/09/2023 08:19

The odds of that are .... unbelievably tiny

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They say that less than 1 in 10,000 will suffer any type of heart problems after Pfizer. I decided it was worth the small risk to get vaccinated. I'm a greater risk of covid complications and it took me a couple of months to recover last time I had Covid.

Twiglets1 · 30/09/2023 09:00

SallyWD · 30/09/2023 08:47

They say that less than 1 in 10,000 will suffer any type of heart problems after Pfizer. I decided it was worth the small risk to get vaccinated. I'm a greater risk of covid complications and it took me a couple of months to recover last time I had Covid.

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So the odds of it happening to two 17 year olds who happen to be friends?
Less than 1/10,000 times 1/10,000.

Less then 1 in 100,000,000…

Yet apparently it happened to @Marmunia10667 daughter and friend 🤔

SaltyOne · 30/09/2023 09:17

lubylo · 30/09/2023 07:38

Saltyone could be quite correct, I mean, who would ever believe anything from that source, Angus Dalgleish Professor of Oncology at St Georges Hospital Medical School London.

Have you had a look through Prof. Dalgleish's Twitter feed? Even oncologists can be conspiracy theorists, and he is one. One of my favourites (where he is retweeting a quote of his own):

“Bill Gates has done more damage to the world's health than probably any other individual."

~ Professor Angus Dalgleish (professor of oncology at St George's, University of London)

x.com/jamesmelville/status/1698234805723214194?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

SallyWD · 30/09/2023 09:25

Twiglets1 · 30/09/2023 09:00

So the odds of it happening to two 17 year olds who happen to be friends?
Less than 1/10,000 times 1/10,000.

Less then 1 in 100,000,000…

Yet apparently it happened to @Marmunia10667 daughter and friend 🤔

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Hmm... Yes. Something doesn't add up.

CrunchyCarrot · 30/09/2023 10:03

@Marmunia10667 said My friend AND her daughter (17) both have cardiac problems after the Pfizer. - so they are closely related, not two genetically distinct individuals.

DustyLee123 · 30/09/2023 10:07

I’m a nurse and I stopped at my 3rd. I also know a person who died after their jab, the family are one of several suing the vaccination company.

Iwasafool · 30/09/2023 10:14

I was admitted to hospital as an emergency. My pulse was racing, I was clammy and felt sick, my ECG was way off apparently. I was in for 4 days and they couldn't find out what was happening or why but it gradually calmed down.

It was six years ago, before covid was thought of let alone the vaccinations. I suppose if the timing had been different i.e. it happened after I'd been vaccinated I'd wonder if it was the jab.

catlovingdoctor · 30/09/2023 10:19

HelpMeGetThrough · 26/09/2023 12:51

Not bothering with them at all.

I had my annual flu jab only because I have no choice on that, well I do, but my medication will be withdrawn if I don't.

Nurse at the surgery was like a chugger, hard "sell" to sign up for the shingles and covid vaccines.

I wonder why 🤔

Because she's a trained health care professional and wants to offer her patients every opportunity to protect themselves from diseases that could be fatal?

gotomomo · 30/09/2023 10:23

No, just had mine, and flu - if it potentially helps a bit then it's worth it to protect my vulnerable clients

gotomomo · 30/09/2023 10:24

So far only symptom is a slightly sore heavy arm on the flu side.

AreYouVeryAnti · 30/09/2023 10:41

Iwasafool · 30/09/2023 10:14

I was admitted to hospital as an emergency. My pulse was racing, I was clammy and felt sick, my ECG was way off apparently. I was in for 4 days and they couldn't find out what was happening or why but it gradually calmed down.

It was six years ago, before covid was thought of let alone the vaccinations. I suppose if the timing had been different i.e. it happened after I'd been vaccinated I'd wonder if it was the jab.

The interesting thing is that heart problems are significantly up as a percentage across the population.

Biochemist · 30/09/2023 10:45

lubylo · 30/09/2023 01:54

This is another classic example of where you follow the statement to the source, back to where they are claiming it is from, it's complete nonsense.

I must have done this for hundreds of fake claims about these vaccines by now.

If someone does not want to get vaccinated that's totally fair enough, but the idea they've been coerced out of it by crap like this is incredibly depressing.

@lubylo - this statement has no evidence behind it. In contrast, we have a welath of evidence demonstrating the vaccines categorically do not cause cancer.

Biochemist · 30/09/2023 10:47

lubylo · 30/09/2023 07:38

Saltyone could be quite correct, I mean, who would ever believe anything from that source, Angus Dalgleish Professor of Oncology at St Georges Hospital Medical School London.

Sure, which is why I actually looked at the primary source (i.e., where this claim is coming from). It's just more nonsense @lubylo

Question - why do you ignore the absolute abudance of evidence demonstrating risks outweighing costs in favour of random tweets which have no basis in fact?

Biochemist · 30/09/2023 10:50

Biochemist · 27/09/2023 20:48

Not sure why I bother typing the long posts when you seem to take a couple of words, put them in quotation marks, and ignore the rest! @lubylo

Yup "independent bodies". There must be over a thousands publications now assessing various aspects of vaccine safety and effectiveness, from different research institues, groups, countries etc. I can't speak for every single publication, but I know plenty of my collegues who are funded by NGOs and charities who have done such work.

You're suggesting a giant conspiracy in which tens of thousands of research staff worldwide have been persuaded to take part in a cover up - don't you think that's a little unlikely?

We agree that no one needs to take up the offer of vaccination if they don't want to, but I think it's preferable that they aren't coerced out of it by fake claims and are able to make an informed choice.

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For some reason you ignored my last reply to you though, so I suppose I won't get a response to these posts either! @lubylo

lubylo · 30/09/2023 11:05

"For some reason you ignored my last reply to you though, so I suppose I won't get a response to these posts either! @lubylo"

I ignored because they are nonsense, people the world over were forced to get the mrna gene therapy, or be cancelled.

Note the word mandatory, which is against the spirit of the Nuremberg Code 1947.

Who will ever forget sniggering handjob.

nursingnotes.co.uk/news/have-your-vaccine-or-face-losing-your-job-government-to-tell-nhs-workers/