Anyone thinking about skipping the latest booster?

[WoolyMammoth55]

I've had 3 jabs in total so far, and the last one made me REALLY poorly - couldn't get out of bed for a few days, crazy fever, hallucinating.

They didn't stop me getting Covid, which I've had 2 positive tests for since the first jab, and which was mild compared to how bad I was after the last booster!

I've been invited for the next booster and just can't see why I'd get it. I've had 3 jabs already so must have some protection, right? And since I keep getting it despite the jabs, I'm fairly likely to get it again in the next 6 months whether I do or don't get jabbed?

I can't see the upside.

I'm studying hard for a career change and have 2 little kids. If I had a reaction like last time I'd really struggle to keep all the balls in the air...

I'm being offered the booster because of my high BMI but don't have any co-morbidities, blood pressure good, not pre-diabetic, generally well.

Curious to know what others are thinking?

Yup you can’t argue with Stupid
(hard to just let some things go, though)

Love a good covid thread. Got my booster and flu jab booked.

🤣👌🏼

I am all for vaccines. I even had the Covid jab and a booster while I was pregnant.

However, since then some aspects of the covid jab have genuinely bemused me and I won't be getting it again.

These are the stats on how many people died as a result of Covid vaccines in Europe:

"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) reported that 11 448 people have died in the EU following COVID-19 vaccines[1],
8 368 following Pfizer BioNTech vaccinations (which is 1 345 more deaths in 2022).
1 579 following AstraZeneca vaccinations.
1 161 following Moderna vaccinations.
339 following Janssen vaccinations.
1 following Nuvaxovid vaccinations."

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html

Comparably, only a handful of people died from the swine flu vaccine, and they scrapped it, deeming it unsafe.
So it just doesn't make sense to me why they would keep using Covid vaccines when the death rates have been rather high, compared to other vaccines that have been cancelled.

Caring about your health? Eat well sleep well, exercise well take your zinc, vitamin d and selenium plus the others and see how your health improves. Funny how you've outsourced your health to a jab. I'll get my 'tinfoil hat' on now and leave out the back

All very good advice and I'm sure my oncologist would be nodding in agreement. However, she also advises the jab and boosters, not least because when I go for my 3 monthly checkup I'm around severely immuno compromised people. Jabs and a decent immune system meant that covid was for me a bout of coughing, a sore throat and a lethargic week or two.

Incidentally, I'm from a generation when there were no jabs for childhood diseases, you just suffered through them. I was lucky, I had all the usual ailments with no worse side effects than some scarring from chickenpox. Not all of my school friends were so lucky. Damned right I'm getting jabbed when I look at the alternative.

Anyway! Got my jab this afternoon, along with my flu booster which I always have despite it not totally preventing influenza. Just grateful that even though sometimes these threads are reminiscent of 2021, it's not actually 2021.

Had mine this morning, one in each arm 😀My bout of covid was very mild but OMG the last time I had flu was dire. No wish to go through THAT again.

c70% of the European population are vaccinated for Covid so although any vaccine deaths (still to be proven) are dreadful, it is a tiny number compared with the numbers vaccinated.

Absolutely not. This one is said to floor people. For a good week. And it's contagious.

I wish it had only been a week! Day 12 and still absolutely wrecked by it.

Funny how I managed a 5k run this morning 48hrs after having (another) vaccine that apparently 'floors' people 🙄.

The... the vaccine is contagious?

Oh I thought you meant you wouldn't skip the booster as this latest strain floors people.

It's Covid which has floored me.

Oh I think I got it wrong! Apologies @Flyhigher, I think I was an idiot.

You said:
These are the stats on how many people died as a result of Covid vaccines

What you are quoting actually says:
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) reported that 11 448 people have died in the EU following COVID-19 vaccines"

Can you see how those two statements are different?

And as always, when you follow it back to the linked source, it explains that just yellow card/VAERS etc, this is a surveillance tool based on spontaneous reporting. It is not used to infer causality @Yellowlily8. I would recommend anyone interested reads the full document if they're interested.

A certain number of people die each year. When the vast majority are vaccinated, the vast number of people dying are therefore going to be vaccinated.

As always, we don't care about raw numbers, we care about how these numbers compare to the normal background rate of death, as humans are not immortal.

This is something that has been explained over and over though, and I feel at this point if you're still pushing it, you're doing it deliberately.

@Biochemist Well said. You have explained clearly the actual wording. It's sad that people twist words to suit their agenda. I had my fourth Covid jab and my flu jab a week ago and felt very slightly off colour for 48 hours, but I'm happy with that and I'm sure my immune system was too. BTW I was in the trial group for the polio vaccine and it was one of the most exciting and beneficial things I've done. Polio was affecting children in my primary school and it was genuinely scary. Now nobody even thinks about the consequences of contracting polio.

Comparably, only a handful of people died from the swine flu vaccine, and they scrapped it, deeming it unsafe

How many people received the swine flu vaccine? You need to compare percentages not numbers.

Are you on a biologic drug, @Qilin? I'm on Adalimumab so according to the Green Book I am eligible, but my GP surgery seems to be doing precisely nothing about this category of 50+ immune-compromised patients regarding the Shingrix vaccine. It's very new, fancy-pants website has no information about the new eligibility criteria at all. I found what I know about from the online minutes of my local Integrated Care Board (CCG as was), JCVI statements and the Green Book.

I'm not sure that my GP surgery has even coded patients properly for vaccine purposes. I've had to push for every single vaccination I've had, from the pneumonia one onwards, including covid jabs and boosters.

Jabs only last 6 months.

We also have concerns with possible cancer spikes too.

hcn.health/hcn-trends-story/cancers-appearing-in-ways-never-before-seen-after-covid-vaccinations-dr-harvey-risch/

The doctor who wrote this article is a known anti vaxxer. Tried to sue a US police department over their vaccine mandate.

Won't be having any more and regret having the first two

This from Prof Angus Dalgleish an oncologist at St Georges Hospital in London is a bit worrying though - he's drawing a link between the mRNA vaccines and cancer resurgence and saying they should be banned forthwith:
https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1707866498541211710?t=OV8NHEWPDXLzk-jp9n9nCg&s=19

Not saying that I agree or disagree but

Haven't most people had their booster? So the people he has been seeing.. would they have relapsed anyway? Google says by august 2022 that 7 in 10 people had 3 or more vaccines and nearly 9 in 10 had 2 doses

The people taking the booster I imagine are more likely to have had it if they've had cancer previously so it fits that he would see people who have had the booster and just because they've relapsed doesn't mean it's the vaccine? I mean it's like asking someone if they've taken paracetamol or eaten toast in the past year, most people will have done

Also he was a UKIP candidate saying immigrants were going to kill the NHS

He’s an anti vaxxer

Shadypaws you're being too sensible !