covid coming back - but how bad is this wave?

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It's been a while since I posted . Developed sudden flu symptoms in the night & tested positive to covid this morning. Seeing more twitter - X re new wave, new variant. I know cases were still happening but wondered how many are getting it now - and how last

Ok sure.

I’m probably going to get crucified by all the worried well here but, for god’s sake, get a grip.

Here's an example of oppositional and diminishing language.
There's much more where that came from.

But you're not stupid presumably. You know lock downs weren't to protect the elderly or vulnerable. They were done to protect the NHS. So that hospitals weren't full of covid patients. So that there were enough staff not dragged into covid firefighting that women could still go into hospital to give birth. So there were enough ambulances on the road not involved with ferrying covid patients so they could get to people who'd been run over. Covid numbers could have got to the stage where every single hospital bed had a covid patient in it. And if it gets to that stage again, the government will do the same again. Because wtf else can they do? Let women give birth unattended at home? Let traffic accident victims rot where they fall?

Well, I’m not sure how we classify stupid? I have a first class degree in Classics from Oxbridge but I wasn’t the PM or a Cabinet member and/or Conservative Party advisers who partied my/their way through the pandemic and lockdowns. By the law of averages, I’m possibly considered fairly intelligent on the basis of my previous exam results (10 x A grades at GSCEs (before the super inflated A-stars and four A-grade A Levels). Surely I’m not stupid just because I happen to have a different opinion to you?

It infects multiple times.

Me and DS have it currently, although it's about 4 days since testing positive now. First two days were awful with shivers, fever and aching but no cough or sore throat thankfully. Feeling a bit better now just exhausted but finding it hard to sleep (that's usual for me anyway so not necessarily the covid).

Mad how many people on this thread are on their 3rd/4th bout of Covid.

I've never had it (to my knowledge) but I work from home so my personal exposure is limited I suppose. My DH hasn't had it either though and he works with the public all day long.

I wonder why some are susceptible to multiple infections and others don't get it at all? Both my (adult) DDs have had it multiple times and I seen them in the days leading up to their positive tests so thought I was bound to get it but didn't (thankfully, as im self-employed!)

I didn't know a single person who'd tested positive till about 18 months into the pandemic, despite living in an area in constant restrictions. If I didn't have tv/internet I wouldn't have known Covid was a thing till 2022!!

Well, I’m not sure that Oxford or Cambridge advertise themselves on their attainment of wisdom skills? It wasn’t the number one selling point when I applied, I’ll be honest. If we applied that criterion to recent prime ministers and their performance in public office, then I think that Oxford, in particular, would be fucked. Honestly, I followed all the Covid rules, I assure you, but I’m only saying that I wouldn’t any more, because it is now classified as a mild disease/illness, so why all the vitriol?

Have posted on other discussion threads.
Have had covid 5x (Dec '21, 6wks; Sept '22, 4wks; Jan/May/Jul '23; 6-8wks, 10wks , 3wks). It has been f-ing miserable. Although "recovered" now still have a bit of the cough when lying down. This year has been the absolute worst for us. Caught it twice outdoors with sick kids at playground. Very, very contagious.

For someone apparently so intelligent (and boastful) you are wilfully ignoring the evidence. But that’s fine. You do you. The virus will also do what it has to and you’re burying your head in the sand and doing nothing to protect your innocent children will give it the welcome it needs.

See my post yesterday at 19:15

I think it's defeatist to eschew the steps that allow the whole of society to live fuller lives with less of a burden of ill health.

@WongWifi

I don’t think it’s related to intelligence, more to individualism. Many people are not interested beyond their own front door and really don’t care if hospitals are buckling. Survival of the fittest is an argument, and I think if the virus struck again there would be a larger section of society refusing to comply.

In which case virus wins, and those in need of a hospital - for any reason - would be in trouble, fatalities would be extremely high.

I think emergency situations can push people to this thought process : so long as me/my children are in the lifeboat I’m not bothered about the fate of others.

our occ health gve a link to the latest government advice,
no need to test
if you are positive this is what you should do -

what?
but you just said there is no need to test?
confused.

there were still patients in my local hospital 19 i think with covid a couple of weeks ago

Good for you and your family.

it killed my mother, it killed my work colleague, it gave my fit 21yo Dd massive multiple pulmonary embolisms which nearly killed her and the results of this will affect her for life.

Im not someone who wants masks back or lockdown back (I don’t) but I do think it’s something worse than a common cold. It’s great that you and your loved ones sailed through unaffected but this has not been the case for everyone so I think a bit more empathy to those who have a different perspective to you wouldn’t go amiss.

oh and to the person who talked about over staffed, empty hospitals - are you having a laugh? I worked for the nhs during the lockdowns and have never seen anything like it! It was like a war zone!

@EmmatheStageRat

But what are your ‘things that should be done’? Because, as an extremely law abiding citizen, I am absolutely and categorically telling you that my children and I will not be locked down (again) and nor will be be wearing (stupid) face masks. Personally, I would rather that ‘any’ virus took us than live the lesser life we had for years and my children are still suffering now. I care not a fig for chicken pox or shingles; especially as the wellbeing of children is sacrificed in this situation to prevent the suffering of older people.

Viruses happen and mutate all the time. People get sick, some more than others. Depending on their immune systems. It’s not being defeatist to want to live life; it’s called being human.

TBH, the above doesn't sound very bright. It's simply a summary of anti-lockdowner memes from the past 3 years or so; nothing original. Emma, you need new material.

NYC is reporting a 5 fold increase in paediatric hospital admissions for covid.

I think when showing concern for well-being of children and young people, it is worth remembering that we don't know how the virus will mutate and what that could mean for paediatric cases. Do you think DC will be in a better position if we work on cleaner air now (which benefits everyone) or scramble only at times when there is a nastier one (which might be now, which might be never).

Of course we don't know much the longer-term effects of covid on the body, but we are seeing some concerning effects (on cardiovascular system, brain, immune system, metabolism, muscle systems and some others). We have only seen impact over a few years. We have simply no idea what getting infected a couple of times a year will do over the course of a few years, but the burden of long covid and the number of deaths from conditions covid is known to precipitate/aggravate is show are both rising.

Children, because they can expect so many more years of repeat infections, may well be the generation facing the worst effects of the disease. We don't know yet.

Seems to be everywhere at the moment. Obvs few are testing anymore but my local supermarket is FULL of deathly pale people having coughing fits and that is not normal for England in August.

Hope you feel better soon.

This thread😞 Lying here with blinding headache, nausea, eye pain, just slept for 10 hours and still exhausted for 5 weeks.

And Covid is just being dismissed as a cold. I’d quite like my life back. No cold has ever done this. Covid is a nasty virus. The more infections you contract, the higher your risk of Long Covid. Will the message only get through when 1/2 the country have Long Covid.

Before or after the vaccine? You're lying about the was zoned too. Scare the pants of them hey

I'm so sorry to read this. Big hugs to you and others experiencing a long range illness with this.

I agree it certainly is not a cold. When I had covid last year my fever over 38 did not respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen. Colds don't do that for me.

Wait for the people to come and argue that the coughs could be from anything else like allergies however I have first hand experience of people being sick with symptoms and just flaunting isolation when sick.

From my observations too, so many people don't know manners and how to cough and it's all into the open.

I think governments all around the world need to start with a heavy health campaign on manners and how to cough and sneeze appropriately to minimise spread of germs onto other people.

You live In Your dystopian world with WHO dictating your body, mind and healthy. 😂 the people on this thread! Matt hancock was right to laugh in your faces.

Oxbridge isn't a real place sweetie.