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Fox News Covid and Strokes

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VillanellePinkDress · 18/03/2023 19:15

Fox News have today announced there is now an investigation by the CDC (Crt for Disease Control) regarding the covid vaccinations causing Strokes.
The video clip I saw said there have now been enough deaths to link it. It was breaking news yesterday in USA.
I've not heard anything on mainstream media in the UK? Has anyone else?

OP posts:
blephly · 20/03/2023 17:44

Grimbelina · 20/03/2023 17:22

blephly again, I don't think you appreciate just how ill I (and others) have been.

Your example of turning down a DTP is rather pedantic and unhelpful. The wording in the letter from my neuro is more nuanced obviously, but the fact remains that my health has very possibly been irrevocably damaged from the vaccines I had in 2021. Any future possible reaction to a vaccine would need to be very carefully considered indeed.

After the year long battle to navigate any care (in the face of multiple dismissals of "this could never happen") and for an acknowledgement of what happened to me (and to others), I am sure you can appreciate that I might find your tone (and that of other's which verges on the patronising) rather familiar (and unhelpful).

@Grimbelina I'm not trying to be patronising or pedantic, I'm responsing to a direct quote from you

and in my notes no more vaccines for anything every again.

This advice is alarming, it could cost you your life, which is why I mentioned getting a second opinion and going on a case by case basis.

If this wasn't actually what you've been told by your consultant then fair enough.

Grimbelina · 20/03/2023 18:15

blephly verbally told that, letter to GP's etc. slightly more measured.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/03/2023 20:59

I would also point out that people, like me, reporting reactions through the yellow card system are finding that some reports are missing, deleted or not followed up... which suggests the data could well be flawed. Your confidence may be misplaced. The Vaccine Damage Payment exists for a reason

Yes, and to criticise the yellow card scheme is also tantamount to heresy. Despite the fact they ‘lose’ things, or stuff disappears. l reported my injury to Pfeizer too. They contacted my GP for more info. Yellow card scheme? Nothing. Despite the fact that l am severely injured, and it’s happened twice. Surely they should be investigating it in more detail. They don’t give a shit.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/03/2023 21:00

This advice is alarming, it could cost you your life, which is why I mentioned getting a second opinion and going on a case by case basis

Having another vaccine will probably cost me my life. I don’t want to not have vaccines, l want them, but these have completely destroyed my life.

twitterexile · 20/03/2023 21:03

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 19/03/2023 00:52

I have a severe vaccine injury from Pfeizer. 6 months later I’m still too weak to do much but lie in bed.

I also had a severe reaction to my Moderna booster, which was attributed to something else at the time.

Prior to both l was completely healthy. Both reactions happened within a week of the vaccines. I’ve had to claim Pip and get a blue badge. I can’t walk more than about 10 yards and have a wheelchair.

l’m pro vaxx. I was desperate for my vaccine. It’s not conspiracy theory. It’s all hushed up in the UK and viewed as heresy. Germany is much much more open about it.

l hope all the people sneering on this thread never have to go through the hell that I’m going through. It’s totally destroyed my life.

Having said that l wouldn’t believe anything from Fox News. But vaccine injuries are real and do exist.

I am so sorry. I hope that your condition improves. Vaccine injuries must be spoken about and out in the open.

foliageeverywhere · 20/03/2023 21:34

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/03/2023 21:00

This advice is alarming, it could cost you your life, which is why I mentioned getting a second opinion and going on a case by case basis

Having another vaccine will probably cost me my life. I don’t want to not have vaccines, l want them, but these have completely destroyed my life.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

I hope you are able to access support for your symptoms and future decision making Flowers

It's really difficult now we're no longer in an age where we have a regular GP who knows our medical history (and can easily refer us to specialists for chronic problems)

When it comes to vaccines, take advice from a HCP you trust rather than online. I know it can seem terrifying if you have had a bad reaction to a specific innoculation, but there may be times in the future where the benefits of one far far outweigh the risks.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/03/2023 21:36

I have 2 lovely gp’s who I’ve known for 12 years. They both said to think very carefully before having another vaccine as it could happen again. I would risk an antigen as I’ve never had a reaction but I’ll never take another MNRA.

Againstmachine · 21/03/2023 08:36

Coffeaddict · 18/03/2023 19:47

Fix news is not allowed to air in the UK as it is NOT a news source. I wouldn't take any notice of anything they say.

As a pp mentioned if there is an increased risk to a population by one if the vaccines it is the cdcs and fdas job to examine this. Until they have there is nothing to report.

Fox news isn't banned broadcasting in the UK at all.

Whilst not a fan of Fox news your opinion is invalid as you are spouting false facts.

IncessantNameChanger · 21/03/2023 08:41

Interesting. I reported my side effects to yellow card. How dou know if they chased / verified with your gp?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/03/2023 09:02

As a pp mentioned if there is an increased risk to a population by one if the vaccines it is the cdcs and fdas job to examine this. Until they have there is nothing to report

😂😂😂and what did the yellow card people do about my reported side effects. Seeet FA. At least Pfiezer stepped up.

You can ask your gp to see if they’ve contacted them. Or you can log into your account at yellow card. They’ve probably ‘lost’ your info though they seem to ‘lose’ all the severe reaction ones.

biokult · 21/03/2023 09:56

IncessantNameChanger · 21/03/2023 08:41

Interesting. I reported my side effects to yellow card. How dou know if they chased / verified with your gp?

This isn't how pharmcovigiliance schemes work - they rely on individual reports which they do not verify.

You can see this in the kinds of reports they get - car crashes etc

It's one of the limitations of resources like VAERS/yellow card and is accounted for when researchers look for safety signals. It's also always listed as a caveat when reporting raw figures, but doesn't stop anti-vaccine groups misinterpreting the data, long before COVID. This is alongside the fact that there's a natural rate of adverse events occuring the population (e.g., a certain number of women have miscarriges each year) so raw figures are meaningless.

From the MHRA website on coronavirus vaccines:

Any member of the public or health professional can submit suspected side effects through the Yellow Card scheme. The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. This is particularly the case when millions of people are vaccinated, and especially when vaccines are being given to the most elderly people and people who have underlying illness.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/03/2023 10:04

The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination

😂😂

Wonder what happened to me then. 2 incidents of severe neurological damage both in the week after the vaccines. Definitely not a side effect of them🙄

biokult · 21/03/2023 10:12

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/03/2023 10:04

The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination

😂😂

Wonder what happened to me then. 2 incidents of severe neurological damage both in the week after the vaccines. Definitely not a side effect of them🙄

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow I'm not sure why you're annoyed by this post?

This is just how pharmcovigiliance schemes work - everyone is encouraged to report everything. But this does not mean every case of appendicitis, breast cancer, miscarriage, etc that happened in 2021 to a vacccinated person is because they were vaccinated.

This how these schemes have worked long before COVID and development of these vaccines - safety signals are identified by comparing rates of something (e.g., Bell's Palsy) to the baseline rate that would normally occur in the population.

This wasn't a reply to your post, or implying your side effects aren't causal. Wishing you relief from your symptoms Flowers

CrunchyCarrot · 21/03/2023 10:25

If it were me and I felt certain that the Covid vaccine had caused severe, lasting side effects then I would want to know exactly which component in the vaccine that caused it. It could very well be the PEG-2000 component that I believe is in both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, according to the ingredients list. People can react very badly to it. If that's the case, then you would not need to avoid other vaccines that don't contain that component. What I would not do is assume it has something to do with the mRNA component.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/03/2023 10:47

I’d love to know which component caused it. But how do you find out?

CrunchyCarrot · 21/03/2023 11:50

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/03/2023 10:47

I’d love to know which component caused it. But how do you find out?

I think it would be difficult to do so. You'd have to start with an ingredients list, so I found:

The full list of ingredients for the Pfizer vaccine is: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

Then you would need to look up all of those and then search for papers on the subject of allergic reactions. It would be a lot of work, but maybe you'd find information that would help you understand whether you are indeed reacting to one of those ingredients. There's quite a lot written about PEG already in the literature (polyethylene glycol) so that would be a good starting point. For example:

https://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jcph.1824

Whether you would get definitive proof or not is another matter. However I would want to figure out as much as I could in order to try to help myself recover.

Just a moment...

https://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jcph.1824

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