Fox News Covid and Strokes

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Fox News have today announced there is now an investigation by the CDC (Crt for Disease Control) regarding the covid vaccinations causing Strokes.
The video clip I saw said there have now been enough deaths to link it. It was breaking news yesterday in USA.
I've not heard anything on mainstream media in the UK? Has anyone else?

It's pretty depressing that, three years ago, I was following his channel intently when COVID kicked off, as he was a great resource daily for stories on the evolving situation. Then I noticed some stuff to do with ivermectin and the mRNA vaccines that were... questionable.

Also, seems not great as statistics as I thought, since, yes, he may be using published stats. But he doesn't use them correctly.

I have a severe vaccine injury from Pfeizer. 6 months later I’m still too weak to do much but lie in bed.

I also had a severe reaction to my Moderna booster, which was attributed to something else at the time.

Prior to both l was completely healthy. Both reactions happened within a week of the vaccines. I’ve had to claim Pip and get a blue badge. I can’t walk more than about 10 yards and have a wheelchair.

l’m pro vaxx. I was desperate for my vaccine. It’s not conspiracy theory. It’s all hushed up in the UK and viewed as heresy. Germany is much much more open about it.

l hope all the people sneering on this thread never have to go through the hell that I’m going through. It’s totally destroyed my life.

Having said that l wouldn’t believe anything from Fox News. But vaccine injuries are real and do exist.

😂

Much better to go the China route and not use mRNA vaccines (totally through choice and not insufficient technology). After all, they had barely five digit deaths according to their official government figures, which are always super reliable and fine.

This is why China came out of lockdowns so much faster than the West who are all sick and infirm because of our vaccination programme.

Fox news is equivalent to Daily Mail

Fox News has categorically admitted to lying to its audience, fearing they would leave for even nuttier news outlets.

Ah yes because it's much safer to believe the pharmaceutical company that got fined $1.3bn for mispromotion of its medicines and bribing doctors.

I would spend more time worrying about strokes post COVID if I were you. There is a demonstrated link. Same with heart attacks.

Remember. Anti-vaxxers have something to sell, whether it's alternative COVID treatments or pills or what not. They are grifters. The guy who claimed the MMR causes autism is a millionaire.

Want to reduce your chance of stroke? Don't catch COVID.

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0

Great that you used my post to promote your own agenda…..thanks for the concern.

There is no conspiracy or agenda here. The vaccines will always have some side-effects that may or may not be life changing or fatal. Do you know what risk isn't worth taking? Not having the vaccine at all. Given the sheer size of doses administered, and given the ONS and other figures, I'm absolutely not worried about the mRNA tech turning me into a sick lizard or whatever these nuts are spewing now. It sucks that you had an adverse reaction, and I wish I could say this was something we could have prevented entirely. But that's not how science works, and nothing is 100% safe. We did all this debating over MMR two decades ago, and it seems some people insist they know better than the actual science shows. Nothing new under the sun.

I work in pharmaceutical research, so cards on the table, I may be a little bit biased. But I also hate Big Pharma as much as I hate any other Big Insert-Industry-Here organisation, because capitalism is cancerous. That said, it's funny how the far right loons come out of the woodwork to rail against free market entities when it happens to cross into their domain of "my body, my right", even when there's zero evidence for their concern outside of manufactured outrage and inability to get statistical significance. If only those same people cared about bodily autonomy when it came to, say, women and abortion.

@hay5689 something else that has been posted what feels like hundreds of times now

Post authorisation, vaccines were rolled out to billions of people. This has allowed an unprecented evaluation of their safety, risk effect profiles etc.

We are not reliant on "big pharma" to evaluate vaccine safety/efficacy, and the vast majority of published research now is from independent researchers who have no connection to Moderna etc. You can go through these papers, see where they got their data, code, statistics, rerun their analysis if this something you would like to do.

This is why all those "hidden pharma files" blah blah from the big names on the anti-vaccine circuit are meaningless.

@blephly I'm referring to the comment that claims Fox News lies. Ironic considering that the biggest fine for lying and backhanders has gone to a pharmaceutical company not a media one. I suppose you are fine with them testing on children in South Africa as well, easy to ignore what we don't want to see.

Given the sheer size of doses administered, and given the ONS and other figures, I'm absolutely not worried about the mRNA tech turning me into a sick lizard or whatever these nuts are spewing now

Well aren’t you the lucky one? I’ll never touch another mRNA vaccination again. They absolutely made me very very sick.

Severe side effects need bringing into the open via the mainstream and not right ring nut jobs. It’s not heresy to need to open this up.

The weight loss drug Ozempic has recognised procedures for side effects, and how to deal with them. A weight loss drug had more support for side effects than a national roll out in a public health crisis. 🙄

Prior to the current thing for it being used for weight loss, Ozempic had been around as a diabetes drug with evidenced side effects for over a decade - you can't compare it in that respect.

I'm sorry to hear about the issues the Covid vaccine caused; best wishes for recovery and I hope you are getting support.

Ah the classic "ignore every point I make and swerve onto a new one", tenuously related to the original.

To re-iterate - we aren't reliant on "big pharma" when it comes to evaluation of vaccine safety. As I said, the majority of research now that the vaccines have been rolled out, is by independent research groups, whose papers you can read and replicate analysis if you wanted to.

For your new point - who is testing what on children in South Africa? Extending trials beyond wealthy white participants (who are far over-represented in research) is something I am very much pro as a scientist, but cannot possibly comment without further info.

Thank you.

However as Covid vaccines were new, there should have been much more openness and support for side effects. Instead we are just left, and discussion of side effects is shut down everywhere except Germany.

Reddit had a thread with 10000 vax injured on it. It was pulled. But we are left to find our info on the likes of Reddit or other sm as there is no support or discussion of side effects. And then they are shut down as anti vax. Despite the fact they are full of people who had a vaccine.

I know sinovax tested on children in South Africa but it was a phase 3 trial after adults had been vaccinated and before it was rolled out to all children.

I’m assuming that rolling it out to all children without giving it to any children at all first wouldn’t be popular either.

Yes, and I'm also pretty sure this happened 2 years ago

Only offering specific ethnicities the chance to participate in trials (as previously mentioned - wealthy white people are far overpresented in research), thus widening disparities in healthcare, isn't exactly where we should be moving to either.

Already did.
I would have thought there’s a link between covid and health issues? This is well known isn’t it?

There’s a big difference between people who are vaccine injured wanting to discuss it, which they should be able to do. And what Fox News and others misreporting data do. Like you said the vaccine injured aren’t anti vax or even anti this vax. They actually had it.

I’m sorry that it has left you injured and hope that things improve for you.

You mean this report that says it's a big nothing burger?

I agree with Germany. There are absolutely no issues with the vaccine statistically worth looking into.

But of course, it 100% happened to you, so I can see why you'd be a little pissed. I don't stop driving in my car because some people die in car accidents, though and no one is hiding this Truth(TM) that can only be accessed by Reddit.

If you'd rather have taken your chances with dying of the virus, hey, that's your call. Me, I'll take negligible risk of side-effect over real risk of ICU and death or at very least, long COVID.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow I'm sorry that MN and threads like this alienate people with side effects. I've followed your posts and really hope you start to feel better soon.

Side effects exist, there's huge amounts of research ongoing to try and understand prevalence/mechanism/at risk groups, and to make sure we're offering it to the right groups of people.

The trouble is there's a huge difference between an individual wanting support, and the concerted effort by anti-vaccine groups using people's stories to profit.

Fox news, and the "experts" they profile, directly harm people with genuine side effects who need support and to be taken seriously.

A screenshot isn't a link. I want at least two sources with publication dates, if something is being claimed as breaking this morning/yesterday.

There are connections between Covid and health issues; the same with the Covid vaccine side effects. I'm not disputing that.

I agree with Germany. There are absolutely no issues with the vaccine statistically worth looking into.

I don't stop driving in my car because some people die in car accidents, though and no one is hiding this Truth(TM) that can only be accessed by Reddit.

This is it. I often think of my friend, who had myocarditis that was almost certainly caused by his booster vaccine. We know this is a side effect, for him it probably wasn't worth it to be vaccinated. He won't have any more unless explicitly advised to by his own doctor.

He hasn't taken from this that no one in his age group (30s) should have been offered vaccination, or that his experience trumps population level data.

well to add I disagree with - There are absolutely no issues with the vaccine statistically worth looking into.

Safety signals identified by post authorisation monitoring should absolutely always be looked into. Most of the time they are not causal, but everything must be investigated.

This is how established side effects have been identified, and how researchers can keep an eye on any new intervention.