Fox News Covid and Strokes

[VillanellePinkDress]

Fox News have today announced there is now an investigation by the CDC (Crt for Disease Control) regarding the covid vaccinations causing Strokes.
The video clip I saw said there have now been enough deaths to link it. It was breaking news yesterday in USA.
I've not heard anything on mainstream media in the UK? Has anyone else?

What I normally do to send on a link I've been sent from whatsapp is... copy it and then paste the link I've been sent into the browser on my phone.

It's not rocket science.

This is the most recent update I could fine from the CDC:

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/bivalent-boosters.html

In short, they feel there's enough data to warrant further investigation into a link between the Pfizer booster and ischemic stroke in the 65+ age group.

So nothing definitive and does not appear to involve the Moderna vax.

Was the 'it's not rocket science" really necessary?
You are a delight.

I'm just very very very cynical about big news stories that people can only provide screenshots of , can't provide links for, and don't actually appear to have been published in the last few days.

Fox News is reactionary, emotional, and highly untrustworthy. It’s like those lurid tabloids in the grocery shop.
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type of thing. So … I’m unsurprised at this news, and extremely doubtful they have any reliable sources to back it.

sitting around, stressing and eating more can cause stroke - and we’ve all been doing that for years.

Of course the increased risk of stroke is NOTHING to do with, you know, Covid. Which isn’t in itself a respiratory illness - it’s a vascular illness with respiratory symptoms which has been shown to cause horrendous damage to all our tiny little blood vessels

Nope, no link at all. Nothing to see AT ALL. It’s all linked to the vaccine 🙄

A colleagues relative died of a stroke 2 days after her vaccine booster.

But like you've very sensibly out there are studies into this which will look at all factors.

So very sad.

Vaccines? No thank you! I'll take my chances with the deadly airborne plague, like all free thinking and correct people who watch Fox News, the best news channel.

Even among the deep pool of stupid Tory MPs he stands out as particularly thick. The fact that everyone who was in the commons yesterday tried to escape as quickly as possible says a lot.
The other week he was claiming the US DoD were responsible for Covid.

Even if the CDC are investigating that doesn’t mean there’s a link. It’s also possible for the vaccine to cause or appear to cause a cardiovascular event while also reducing your overall risk of having one since covid definitely does increase the risk of a cardiovascular event. I’ve yet to see anyone refusing the vaccine on this basis explain how they are planning on avoiding ever getting covid. As a general rule they tend to be not bothered about getting it.
My guess would be Fox News probably did say this but it may well have been to distract from another report from the CDC about long covid which really wouldn’t fit their narrative.

Hers a Fact check of the original notice: www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-social-media-posts-twist-meaning-of-cdc-fda-disclosure-on-bivalent-booster/

There was a little UK media interest at the time of the CDC announcement, from the Daily Fail no less, that was actually sensible www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11640813/amp/Why-Pfizer-Covid-shots-stroke-link-flagged-CDC-FDA-likely-just-statistical-anomaly.html

Subsequent data from the US and Denmark have not found a risk www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.01.21.23284855v1

Finally we haven’t used the same bivalent vaccines in the UK as they do in the US anyway.

CDC were clear and transparent. A potential issue was raised and they will be undertaking further analyses to determine if there is any association. You can see the latest data here if you’re interested www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/slides-2023-02-22-24.html

Covid is responsible for a lot of cardiovascular impacts, including stroke.

I'm not quite sure why it's considered news tbh

Except that it goes against the "it's just a cold" and "it's fine to get it multiple times" narrative.

There are a small number of very vocal people on social media, continually banging on about how bad vaccinations are, believe it if you like. But the people who died from Covid in the early days would have really liked a vaccine. And I'm glad to have been able to have it, there are side effects from the vaccine but generally the side effects of the vaccine can be the same as bad effects of a bad dose of Covid. I prefer to try to prevent it. If you are young and fit you can probably skip the vaccine, but watch out for elderly relatives.

Don't be so utterly ridiculous. Dr Campbell uses Government and ONS data. He states facts. As did Bridgen yesterday. Did any of you naysayers actually listen to him? Or see the scummy MP's dash out as he was about to give his speech. There is a lot wrong with what's going on, and the 63,000 excess deaths in the past twelve months. Bury your heads in the sand if you want to. Call some of us conspiracy theorists, but that only pass's for so long. Open your eyes people, there's something rotten going on.

Any luck yet with the copy/paste process @VillanellePinkDress ?

Fox News is about as reliable and about as much "news" as those Daily Express "Experts warn of horror winter as temperatures plummet to -17!" headlines.

I'm getting my conspiracy theorist Bingo Card ready.

Yep, and then we have a winter that is on the mild side with a few cold snaps where it hits -16 in the depth of night in a remote Scottish glen... But that doesn't make good headlines.

Still no link? Shocking.

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The most ironic use of "utterly ridiculous" @PaleGreenFrontDoor

Campbell makes tens of thousands a month from spreading vaccine disinformation on his monetised channel. It has been discussed to death on MN with many examples from specific videos.

Bridgen is a conspiracy theorist who probably believes this nonsense, and has been repeating fake claims for months (also from Malhotra et al). It takes a lot for a tory MP to have a suspension.

I am a working scientist, have attempted to follow their claims back to various "sources"- there is literally nothing of substance behind them.

When will people wake up to the lucrative for-profit vaccine disinformation industry. Those at the top make a career out of it, those who get sucked in are the ones who have negative consequences.

^^ this

I’m afraid I stopped watching after he confidently stated the ‘fact’ that the AZ vaccine was a gene therapy. That was about 2mins in. He should make up his mind what it is his problem is. Or at the least understand the vaccines if he wants to be taken seriously.

I’ve listened to it. The 1in 800 people having a severe adverse reaction is clearly bollocks and I presume comes from the same misreading of the Pfizer/Moderna data that has happened before. But assuming that it is true pretty much all of the excess deaths are vaccine related and the heatwave, the collapse of the healthcare system, covid (accute and long term effects), flu and people not being able to afford to heat heir homes during winter didn’t cause any of them. And despite severe adverse events usually happening near to the point of vaccination, these things only started become noticeable as excess deaths in 2022 at a point when the U.K. government were winding down vaccinating and as the proportion of people eligible for an initial vaccine or booster who went on to get one was falling.

And I’m supposed to believe this off a man who’s spent a lot of time looking into it and still can’t tell the difference between a vaccine and a gene therapy and a mRNA vaccine and a viral vector vaccine.

I think I’ll pass.