The WhatsApp message leak

[Mycatsgoldtooth]

So, we’ve had the FBI saying it was a lab leak, the leaked messages showing many of the restrictions were for show, stats on the reality of masks being mostly useless unless N95s. Where are all the people that were so upset about anyone saying anything against the government now.

It’s almost as if no one care where the virus came from and how the government reacted. If I’d spent years being terrified and washing my shopping I’d be really pissed off.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/01/untruth-untruth-peddled-justify-great-lockdown-disaster/

"The Tories" are not right wing. They are globalists.

Go on any genuine conservative forum - and see that the 'Conservative' government are despised by people with traditional right of centre opinions.

This whole issue is not a matter of right vs left, it's a matter of the mega-wealthy using their money to control the rest of us. And those mega-wealthy people act as a team irrespective of their nationality.

But then one does not mean that the other was the result of that.

@frothytoffee there still is no certainty on transmission.
how do you explain couples who sleep next to one another and who share bodily fluids aren’t always passing it on?

show me the studies that detail transmission. The 2metre rule was plucked from thin air

I know you @SickOfRightWingers

You think people are going to hell for not getting vaccinated? What in your mind, are the theological underpinnings of this?

Wtf 😂

Well this took an interesting turn. ⛑😯

Telling people they're going to hell if they haven't had the vax? Now that's a hitherto unknown vaccine side effect - I wonder if it's widespread or just that poster?

That's an interesting concept. I've actually heard devoutly religious people say that they don't want the vax as they want to trust their God given immune system.

Just when you think it can’t get any more loony 😂

It was in the Bible. Didn't you know? And the Lord spake and proclaimed "thou shalt have thy untested hastily produced vaccines, and thou shalt question not."

And for the record, yes I had three. If I could change that I would. No more.

Not Leicester, but pretty much second behind them, and extremely unimpressed.

The 'bodies on the street' thing came from those videos from China early on

Which are clearly fake. Not one person ever just collapsed in the street due to coronavirus

I think we were all victims of China's propaganda!

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/china/video-2094890/Video-Dramatic-footage-shows-people-collapsing-suddenly-Wuhan-city.html See the date on this video - 25th Jan 2020. My particular favourite is the man just facepalming straight to the ground at about 40 seconds in. That literally never happened due to covid.

@Mycatsgoldtooth

I don’t really get your point.

The lab leak suspicion has been around for a while now. I don’t recall anyone being ridiculed about that suggestion. It’s been widely reported.

The government hap hazard policy making, being slow to respond, partying, dodgy contracts etc doesn’t mean that the global scientific advice : vaccines, masks, restrictions was ALSO all wrong.

You also think that those in support of science were all de-sanitising their shopping and wringing their hands. That’s as bigoted a view as any accusation levelled against the ‘anti -science’ crew.

Seems to be like another ‘look how clever I am, I know better than the government/global scientists, I was right all along, my immunity is better than everyone else, I can ‘see through’ the media’ type threads.

You don’t. Sorry.

@MinkyGreen your conviction is impressive.

@Somebodiesmother I am glad someone else witnessed that comment. I think there are many more that think just like the individual for whom the comment was deleted.

I saw it too but...yeah. What can you do? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I think most probably thought wtf and ignored it? It's not a view I've seen on here before!

Sometimes people take drugs before they go on the internet, I wouldn't pay much attention.

On the subject of the recent Cochrane Review indicating that we still don't have reliable evidence of the utility of masks on a population level, I wonder what Matt Hancock thinks of that? If he's even noticed it, of course.

@Mycatsgoldtooth

No the key findings of that report were ‘uncertain’. It’s just been latched on by anti-maskers while rejecting all other studies and evidence. The good old cherry picking.

“Overall, this review doesn’t move me one way or the other because there isn’t enough there for me to really believe that there’s evidence showing that masks don’t work,” Peter Chin-Hong, MD, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, told Health. “The public should not use this as a definitive statement that masks don’t work.”

Rather, the review calls attention to the limitations of the research—including how difficult it is to use randomized control trials to study the effectiveness of masks—and what this lack of evidence means when it comes to making decisions about public health, said Dr. Chin-Hong, who was not affiliated with the new Cochrane review.

I agree that lockdowns in the UK were not managed well and lessons need to be learnt. I find it particularly offensive that you’ve mentioned the Labinjo-Hughes case and will report. Do NOT weaponise that case to promote an anti restrictions stance. That crime was absolutely the fault of his evil parents.

Lockdown is not an excuse or reason for a child to be treated in that way and please don’t attempt to use it as one. Highly, highly offensive.