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The WhatsApp message leak

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Mycatsgoldtooth · 02/03/2023 10:35

So, we’ve had the FBI saying it was a lab leak, the leaked messages showing many of the restrictions were for show, stats on the reality of masks being mostly useless unless N95s. Where are all the people that were so upset about anyone saying anything against the government now.

It’s almost as if no one care where the virus came from and how the government reacted. If I’d spent years being terrified and washing my shopping I’d be really pissed off.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/01/untruth-untruth-peddled-justify-great-lockdown-disaster/

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MinkyGreen · 26/03/2023 08:44

@BashirWithTheGoodBeard

I think you really should care. It could very well become an issue. From the liberally-posted- here Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/18/reform-uk-support-doubles-blue-wall-since-rishi-sunak-became/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/20/ann-widdecombe-joins-reform-uk-party-aims-obliterate-tories/

I would say Snowden’s analysis is biased towards a right wing libertarian argument. And I’d very much like to know how support for a right wing libertarian argument/government would give a better outcome to those who were severely impacted by lockdown? Please could you answer that question?

Reform UK’s support in Blue Wall has doubled since Rishi Sunak became PM

Poll shows Right-wing party has increased its vote share to six per cent across 42 heartland Conservative seats in the South

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/18/reform-uk-support-doubles-blue-wall-since-rishi-sunak-became/

MinkyGreen · 26/03/2023 08:51

There are those that believe Brexit was very much influenced by Farage, so it would be naive to think that reformUK have no influence or are of no consequence in our next election.

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 26/03/2023 09:02

Minky, that headline says they've got 6% support in a smattering of seats. It's fuck all. I can't read it, think it's paywalled- maybe it's free access in whichever country you are? But what it won't say, or it'll be lying if it does, is that they've any chance of winning more than a couple of seats at absolute best. Does it mention the possibility of them splitting the right wing vote and leading to more Labour seats, as Tice's last project likely did in 2019? I'd expect the Telegraph to have some concerns about that, actually. You should have a look at the link I posted a few pages back that shows predictions for seats.

Honestly, I do get that your worries about this are genuine, but the UK is a first past the post multi party system. It's counter intuitive, but the vote percentage a party gets really don't tell you much. Parties can get thumping majorities with support in the 40-45% bracket. The Tories did last time. They can get millions of votes and have one seat or none, ask the Greens. I realise it's a strange way of doing things, and certainly I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else, but it's how it works.

In answer to your question, as I've already explained to you, I don't think support for Tice's lot is going to have any impact at all on the most disadvantaged. Positive or negative. It will be irrelevant. I can't explain why I think that will have a positive impact because I don't think it will have an impact at all.

And you've not answered mine: is it your view that the timelines given in the article and the comments attributed to the scientists are wrong?

EmmaEmerald · 26/03/2023 23:59

Jennifer is that real? I can't help noticing there's very little engagement and no replies. I'm a bit unsure if Vallance in particular would actually write that down, it's astonishing.

EmmaEmerald · 27/03/2023 14:07

if it is true, it should have so much coverage. There's a weird amount of denial going on.

MinkyGreen · 13/04/2023 07:50

One of the responses:

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Is there a commercial version of WhatsApp that has a different user interface? Why are you not asking any of this?

MinkyGreen · 13/04/2023 08:02

@EmmaEmerald “Weird amount of denial” - so given that the message tweeted there looks fake, or has been manipulated in some way - would you prefer that MSM took everything at face value and just printed that that tweet as ‘real’ - or at least attempt to apply some kind of simple critical thinking/analysis and not publish/mislead more then it already has??

MinkyGreen · 13/04/2023 08:10

When a situation is messed up, I don’t think the solution is to look for answers that are potentially more messed up/fake/manipulated.

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