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If you didn't get the jab, would you consider having it now?

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AreYouVeryAnti · 25/01/2023 23:49

You'd better be quick if you're healthy and under 50...

"The Telegraph understands the Government is also preparing to wind down the open offer of the first two doses over the coming months. The move will mean unvaccinated healthy under-50s will soon not be able to get a Covid jab unless one is recommended by a medical professional."

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FieldsOfRoses · 02/02/2023 22:55

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RafaistheKingofClay · 03/02/2023 00:55

Where did I type earlier that I subscribed to test & trace and masking indoors?

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/02/2023 00:56

Where did I type earlier that I subscribed to test, trace and masking indoors?

QuiteTheSpectacle · 03/02/2023 01:58

An invitation to the people on this thread..,

Just take a step back for a second and imagine what the militant vaccine fans posting here look like:

Are they in an office?

Are they with other people?

Why are they spending so much time on this forum telling off scared people who have been effected by the Covid response and vaccine rollout?

Why would they do that?

Why would they go online and spend loads of time saying how wonderful these products are and how great the government is?

Tin foil hat insult time!

MinkyGreen · 03/02/2023 03:47

@FieldsOfRoses

Yes those views are in society. But they are a minority view and heavily influenced by your own echo chamber. And they are not supported by the overwhelming weight of robust, peer reviewed scientific evidence.

You don’t seem to realise that every criticism you aim at me, you are also guilty of yourself.

Misinformation, fake news is an online harm. Much the same as if I tried to persuade a person against cancer treatment and follow homeopathy without being properly qualified/because of a heavy personal bias. Misinformation is not just a ‘buzz word’ to shut down debate. It can cause harm to others. That’s why Mumsnet has a policy on it. And I’m following their policy if I think a post is extreme. So surely you should complain to Mumsnet if they delete a post. They are in charge of the deletion - not me. You are breaking their guidelines.

If your views were considered the safest and best advice, at least one country globally would be changing their health advice of : the ivaccine is safe and effective :

It is only niche, discredited doctors who are saying otherwise. Of course it’s safer to follow what the 99.5% of qualified professionals are saying across the globe. And not the 0.5% who are saying something different or spending their time on the Joe Rogan show or making a name for themselves on youtube.

MinkyGreen · 03/02/2023 07:37

Also - I only reported one or two of your posts to illustrate a point.

I think you’re actually doing a very good job of censoring yourself - as much of what you say comes across as hypocritical, misinformed, contradictory, insults - or just general rant.

FieldsOfRoses · 03/02/2023 11:43

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MinkyGreen · 03/02/2023 11:59

Judging by Mumsnet’s toleration of your rants - you clearly are in the wrong in the eyes of Mumsnet. So why post here if you can’t follow their guidelines? Yes I hold the view held by the majority of the global population. I hold the view of the global guidelines. I hold the view of consensus science.

Your heavily biased assertions have no robust backing and have been debunked over and over and over again.

FieldsOfRoses · 03/02/2023 12:32

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Parker231 · 03/02/2023 12:44

@FieldsOfRoses - Covid booster programme - figures look good to me.

The most recent coverage data (15 January 2023) of the autumn booster programme in those aged 50 years and over is 64.5% and 82.4% in those aged 75 years and over. By the end of summer 2022, the coverage of the 2022 spring booster programme was 77.3% in those aged 75 years and over.

FieldsOfRoses · 03/02/2023 12:49

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Parker231 · 03/02/2023 13:17

The figures I provided on my earlier message are from data held by NHS England and not the Daily Fail!

BananaHamhock · 03/02/2023 13:26

Covid booster figures really aren't as rosey as people are making them out to be. Pro-vaxer's are just as capable of skewing results in their favour as they believe anti-vaxer's are in theirs.

Below is the graph for the booster take up as of 29 Jan 2023.

The green is people boosted within the last 3 months and the navy blue boosted within the last 6 months, the light blue 6+ months and dark blue at the end is unvaccinated.

Only 52.6% of people aged 55-59 have been boosted, 42.9% of people aged 50-54yrs are boosted and then it drops drastically for each age group after that. Less than 15% of people aged 45-49 have had the booster. Hardly a great uptake for anyone else other than the elderly and vulnerable really!!! Confused

Source: www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/vaccines

If you didn't get the jab, would you consider having it now?
BananaHamhock · 03/02/2023 13:28

To clarify the figures I mentioned are boosted within the past 6 months (comprised of the green and navy bars)

FieldsOfRoses · 03/02/2023 16:45

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Parker231 · 03/02/2023 18:17

I was a vaccinator for Covid when we lived in the uk - was talking to former colleagues - they are busy since the announcement has been made about ending the boosters for all

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Remmy123 · 03/02/2023 18:27

I know two people that have had heart attacks - early 40's fit and healthy both feel it is the vaccine

thank god I didn't get my kids jabbed

loulouljh · 03/02/2023 18:32

You could pay me a million pounds. I would still not get it.

Franticbutterfly · 03/02/2023 18:59

Once again, no thank you.

10milewalk · 03/02/2023 20:11

loulouljh · 03/02/2023 18:32

You could pay me a million pounds. I would still not get it.

Same here.

RafaistheKingofClay · 03/02/2023 20:54

Less than 15% of people aged 45-49 have had the booster.

That’s probably because they weren’t eligible for it. It was only available to the over 50s and vulnerable groups over 16.

MinkyGreen · 04/02/2023 06:42

This is from the World Health Organisation. A far more trustworthy source than anecdotal evidence, hunches, fringe science and fake claims on social media.

“We’ve entered the transition phase because the risk associated with COVID has shifted. Thanks to safe and effective vaccines, along with high levels of prior infection, we have increased immunity at the population level and COVID infection is less likely to lead to severe disease.

This, combined with the emergence of less virulent variants (for now) and the addition to our armoury of a number of effective treatment options, has reduced the overall threat COVID poses to health. The position we are in now is very different to where we were at the beginning of the pandemic.

One of the main characteristics of this transition phase of the pandemic is a shift towards a risk-based approach to COVID. The focus of public health interventions will be to target the most vulnerable to COVID in the community. This means ensuring older age groups, those with underlying health conditions and others at increased risk of severe outcomes from COVID are adequately protected.”

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