AIBU to be sick of people who think it's all back to normal?

[JanusTheFirst]

Woke to the news that my cousin died early this morning of Covid. No underlying conditions and she was vaccinated. But she was elderly. She hardly ever went out but must have picked it up on a rare outing to the local shop.

People are still dying and we should still be looking out for those vulnerable to this awful disease. It isn't all back to normal. My cousin is dead and she wouldn't be but for Covid.

I don't think people can expect everyone to lock down for eternity, life needs to be worth living.

The OP isn't asking for a lockdown. She's asking people to stay at home if they're sick. To test if they think they've Covid. Sometimes that's not possible as pps have outlined, but often it is.

It’s hyperbole unless you actually follow what else is going on in the world, aside from Covid and the damage done by the restrictions.

Possibly because there is a huge population in China, and very high density housing... High density population... etc.

Also, I agree about the masks. I think they do help protect you, but they're not a guarantee you won't catch covid.

I totally agree that the elderly die of flu every winter. I also think short of your relative locking herself up and denying herself human contact since march 2020 ie seeing no one then meeting anyone heightened her risk. There is no way i want restrictions back for a low risk virus for the vast amount of people. Its terrible she passed away but wanting people to go back to the new normal is not going to happen.neither is locking up healthy people and masking all and sundry. Im ok to live my life as nornal as possible. Ill do me thanks .i am also very sorry for your loss OP

@Fizbosshoes it's not about being selfish. DD had covid, rules are 3 days at home then if no symptoms back to school. We follow the rules and she doesn't miss out on her education.

I'm sorry OP for your loss. I currently have an elderly relative in hospital poorly with covid but we need to move on a bit. Friends have all been a lot more poorly with a flu type virus but they don't isolate for days after.

Parents can't afford to keep their children at home anymore now, they have to work and children deserve an education.

I'm so sorry for your loss.
I know it really puts things into perspective when we experience it personally.

I'm still very cautious even though I'm vaccinated.
I have had covid twice last year (2022) and both times escalated to secondary pneumonia. It was so frightening as I really struggled to get my breath, was coughing until I was sick.
I'm 47, never smoked, but do have asthma.

I would definitely avoid contact with people if I knew I had covid. I'd be mortified to think I had passed it onto anyone who may struggle.

My heart goes out to you.

Decent people with a moral compass don't need a law to know they shouldn't be spreading flu or covid

I see the moralistic finger wagging and posters deciding that they are the arbiter of what's decent and moral that was so prevalent during the pandemic hasn't gone away, any more than covid has.

I'm sorry for your loss.

People do care. But I don't know what you expect society to do beyond what we're doing now. We can't just all stay home forever. That's actually made so many other things worse, things that are also killing people and making many long term unwell.

For many people COVID is asymptomatic, tests aren't free . Why should people on the breadline test for something when they feel fine ? They should miss work and not get paid ? When you get to a certain age ANY illness can kill you not just COVID, flus , pneumonia , UTI , even a cold, a hip fracture , dysphagia, pressure sore. It's like people now seem reluctant to admit people die.

her death was avoidable
This isn't a helpful attitude. Covid is an endemic virus, not a drunk driver. Grieving for your cousin will include accepting her death if you are to move on.

Use your fucking brain. If people test they have to stay home. The government treat COVID as a normal sickness now so excessive amount of days off like two weeks to recover from asymptomatic COVID will not be paid or take up sick leave.
That's why lockdown was introduced because you can't insist on these rules without providing some sort of safety net. There's no fucking money for endless furlough and they shafted the self employed anyway.

You know what I am sick of? People who are financially well off telling people what to sacrifice. The old who had so many more opportunities than the you g not only expecting young people to sacrifice for them but to financially fund it whilst they sit in their mortgage paid off houses virtue signalling about how righteous they are.

Fucking hypocrites the lot of them.

73 isn't even that old! YANBU, it's not as bad as it was but people still need to be testing and isolating while positive

It's sad people are getting ill. But we cant go into permanent lock down.

I'm also very sorry for your loss. I don't see what society at large could have done to prevent it though. As others said, we have trashed the economy, lost jobs, lost time with dying loved ones. We gave so much already, waiting for the arrival of the vaccine that was supposed to prevent death from covid. Why did it not save your cousin if that's what it was supposed to do? Why not be angry at the science that insisted that's what it would do?

No...they don't.

I'm sorry for what has happened I blame the government they should have kept the free testing because people simply can't afford tests especially people on 0 hour contracts who are not entitled to sick leave. They should have also kept the 10 day isolation policy for people to stay away from work and arrange sick leave for people who are not entitled to it.

If they are asking people to go to work with covid people will go out. Our government are more concerned for the economy. Imagine this was going on last year when covid was high.

Many people as employees will not be paid to take time off work if they test positive and choose to isolate, unless they are actually too ill to work, and sometimes won't get paid even if they are too ill.

For most people now, its a mild virus and they can't afford a) to buy tests b) to be off work when not very poorly. It's really unfair of you to expect this of people when they simply can't afford it.

Elderly people have always been vulnerable to infection. Elderly people die, that's life? We cannot and should not live forever.

I am sorry for your loss. As others have said, 73 is most definitely not elderly, but I question why she was slowing down, and never going out? This is not normal for a healthy, active, 73 year old. Quite the opposite.

Yes, people are still dying of Covid, but they are also still dying of Flu, and Pnoemonia, cancer, and heart disease. Horrible diseases are present in every day life, some you don't hear of unless there is an unusual spike: Strep A.

There are plenty of medical papers, which confirm that stress, anxiety, social isolation, suppress immunity, and as we know, also lead to depression and mental health issues, and to susceptibility to other diseases like cancer, and I think we need to be more nuanced in the effects of those triggers as well.

Yes it is old from a medical prospective. Your body doesn't function as well in your 70s Vs 20. It's unfortunate but lifes not fair.

@kamia how do you manage a workplace with people off for 0 day chunks at a time? Pls enlighten me??

My colleagues can't cover for 1 person off sick let alone 3/4/5. It's not doable. It also ends up with people stressed because of the extra workload!!

*10 day chunks!

I'd have hoped the Govt would have reversed their decision to stop funding statutory sick pay because of covid, but no, they still won't fund it, so if an employee is off sick, the employer has to pay the statutory sick pay plus any other contractual obligations.

At 73 and "very fit and healthy" and vaccinated, why was she barely ever going out?

My parents are that age and are always out and about, volunteering, seeing friends, going on holiday.

Hiding away isn't good for your immune system

To the "70 is not old" crowd.

70 is old "enough" for some people. By definition. That is why they have died.

Some bodies give out younger and some older. That's the way it is.

Also, you know how averages work? They come about due to a spread of numbers around that average. If everyone lived to at least the average age of death (as some people think everyone is entitled to do somehow) then guess what happens to the average? You can comprehend that, can't you?

It's sad that someone of 73 has died, however, plenty of people of that age have had covid and recovered. It's possible she had a hidden health condition that even she wasn't aware of.