If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

[Quweenie]

If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

Cave wise, I’m living in the cave that follows the global guidelines. As are the majority of the UK.

I’d say your cave resembles a rabbit hole that is very close to hitting the centre of the earth.

Incorrect (a shocker, I know). Cumulative covid cases in the UK are just under 25 million.

www.statista.com/statistics/1101958/cumulative-coronavirus-cases-in-the-uk/

Source for this FieldsofRoses?

I keep asking for sources and getting nothing.

Yes

It’s reduced hospitalisations and deaths.

it’s reduced hospitalisations and deaths.

it’s reduced hospitalisations and deaths.

Research has shown the vaccines help:

reduce your risk of getting seriously ill or dying from COVID-19
reduce your risk of catching or spreading COVID-19
protect against COVID-19 variants

And repeat and repeat.

The above is the consensus global scientific opinion. In every country around the globe.

Hunches, anecdotal evidence, fringe science etc is not safer than consensus science. Which is fluid and will change if sufficient robust evidence comes to light to challenge it. There is no robust evidence, no consensus thinking that agrees with with your assertions.

You can make sarcastic comments but threads calling people David Icke worshippers for not wanting the vaccine were appearing daily 2 years ago.

you what? How's David Icke got into this?

And yes I do think your absolute pages of tirade against no one in particular, reeling of all sorts of vague 'facts' ( sarcasm again) requires a healthy dose of it.

What's anyone supposed to say to that other than shake their head and laugh?

crack on. I know I am.

as I said over 90% of the Uk population have had covid

Source?

This is painful.

As I said on my posts I certainly don't regret having the first 2, the last one (my 4th) coincided with a dose of covid (just before the jab) followed a few days later by some truly awful neurological craziness and I've ended up having tests galore and debilitating issues for months (seems to be improving slowly now) - whether it was coincidental who knows , but I'm not going to risk it again and I doubt anyone on here would either. I totally understand though people who have had no ill effects having them but I think by this point it really does have to be a personal choice - it's clear they don't stop you getting it and you can still be pretty ill, and it seems the non vaccinated at the point we are now (but relatively fit and well non vulnerable people )are only getting the same level of illness/symptoms.

I've shown a link from last year from a commonly accepted paper on this site showing it was 70% and now you are arguing in a year it hasn't increased from that searching for an exact figure of 90%? You clearly believe taking the vaccine reduces transmission so take your next booster.. it's none of my concern what you do. It's getting very silly now with the desperation arguing semantics over the difference in 20%. Do your own research, you have internet access. No link here is accepted bar left wing papers such as the Guardian so find it yourself. Even if it is 70%, hailing that as a success in reducing transmission is desperate stuff

" I can say what I like but you find the sources. And you're knit picking to ask. "

@FieldsOfRoses You're on a roll.

And before you slag me off for being aggressive, angry , sarcastic whatever. Take a deep breath. This is literally your thread now.

I’ll say it once more. It reduces severity, hospitalisations and deaths.

It stops new variants from emerging.

It reduced your risk of catching and spreading.

That is the consensus opinion from a wide variety of sources with the most robust peer backed evidence.

Not a singular news article which you are misconstruing with your personal bias. Thought you didn’t like MSM anyway. Or is that only when it suits and you can attempt to manipulate something?

Whether it s 70% or 90% clearly a lot have had covid now. 4 of us in the family caught it for the first time last summer who had never had it before summer 2022 including me. Half of those 4 had had the vaccine and half not. Everyone else there had had covid before.

I have no skin in the game. As someone helpfully posted above the vaccine lasts about 6 months which is what I expect in 2020 when i decided not to have it because it was not very long lasting and weighing up the pros and cons was not a vaccine for me.

If others having the vaccine in 2020 and 2021 helped me get a less bad straing of it by 2022 than many thanks to those people as I am sure they will thank me for the vast amounts of tax I pay more than they do into the NHS - we all give in our own ways in this society even if only tax revenue going down the drain for PPE (some not all) which has had to go for scrap.

There have been strong views on both sides in 2020. I would have preferred more deaths than the huge infringement of our rights but we are beyond all that now and back to living with covid.

@MinkyGreen all your stats are incorrect.

@FieldsOfRoses best not to entertain this mob, after all, people and their vaccination status does nothing to affect my life. I don't even care about views that differ, I just like to chime in when I see these bully's try to antagonise anyone who has chosen not to get this vax, or who have decided after adverse reactions not to line up for any subsequent jabs.

@sunglassesonthetable "I thought I was out, then they pull me back in"

Funny that you believe me and @FieldsOfRoses to be the same person? Why? You think everyone who doesn't agree with you must be all one person. Millions of people didn't want the vaccine, and millions will have suffered unnecessary side effects. I am not the only one. Tough to imagine huh, because all you and your friends are foot soldiering in unison to the beat of the government drum.

Here we go. Abuse incoming.

"i like to chime in" Don't make me laugh. Literally pages of lecturing from you and Roses.

The antagonists are in full force.

This is from the World Health Organisation. A far more trustworthy source than anecdotal evidence, hunches, fringe science and fake claims on social media.

“We’ve entered the transition phase because the risk associated with COVID has shifted. Thanks to safe and effective vaccines, along with high levels of prior infection, we have increased immunity at the population level and COVID infection is less likely to lead to severe disease.

This, combined with the emergence of less virulent variants (for now) and the addition to our armoury of a number of effective treatment options, has reduced the overall threat COVID poses to health. The position we are in now is very different to where we were at the beginning of the pandemic.

One of the main characteristics of this transition phase of the pandemic is a shift towards a risk-based approach to COVID. The focus of public health interventions will be to target the most vulnerable to COVID in the community. This means ensuring older age groups, those with underlying health conditions and others at increased risk of severe outcomes from COVID are adequately protected.”