If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

[Quweenie]

If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

Given the Uk government are scrapping the jabs for the under 50s, it's actually people like you who were obsessively banging on about how all age groups should take the vaccines when even the " follow the science " mob have abandoned this silly narrative.

I've never banged on about anyone taking the vaccine. It's a free country thank goodness.

If you don't want the vaccine don't take it. 🤷‍♀️
@FieldsOfRoses

No one is saying this @FieldsOfRoses and your post is a real misundersanding of the situation

A primary course of vaccination was recommended for the general population - it's still abundantly clear this was the best course of action based on evidence we have on outcomes.

The UK pushing resources to get as many people vaccinated before their first exposure to COVID was one of the best strategies they could have taken, and countries that did this have had far better outcomes than countries that did not.

Most people have now been vaccinated, had COVID or both, The benefits of vaccination are far less in this context, meaning it's not worth the money or resources to continue offering either the primary course or a booster to everyone, hence the wind down of the programme.

Like flu and other vaccines, a seasonal booster is offered to high risk / high exposure groups. HTH.

@FieldsOfRoses I've generally banged on about people talking unverifiable shite.

Or taking a premise and putting a spin on it.

Like "Given the Uk government are scrapping the jabs for the under 50s, ""

Because that's where we are in the process.

As @henlee succinctly explains.

That's because you've been vaccinated and have therefore already been exposed to the virus, so it's not novel to your immune system.

No, I really regret feeling pressured into getting something that has made my heart condition worse. I am worried about the long term consequences of having 2 jabs, no more top ups for me.

You seem very aggressive. Much of the as you put it " unverified shite" has come from people justifying imposing absurd restrictions on life over the last 3 years which includes vaccines for all age groups and the bullying which has occurred ( threats of vaccine passports etc) if you don't take it. Fortunately many of those responsible for these absurd laws/ beliefs have been discredited or sacked

Yes apologies for the swearing. A rubbish habit of mine.

henlee I don't think the flu and covid annual vaccines for the vulneran;e are seasonal boosters. With flu they decide which strain is likely to be worst in a particular winter and give a vaccine for that one. As I knew the covid vaccine would be the same in 2020 I therefore did not have the vaccine. Had it been a tested one that lasts for life like other types then I might have considered it. However I agree it is seasonally given now - like flu.

I think after a period the vaccine wears off as does the immunity you get from having had covid. Does anyone know what that period is?

Six to eight months Xenia.

From the British Heart Foundation:

Reports of myocarditis following any Covid-19 vaccine remain rare, and the people who have had this this have usually experienced a mild illness. Those affected have usually quickly felt better with rest and simple treatments.

Research suggests that overall, myocarditis is no more likely to be triggered by a Covid vaccine by than any other vaccine. It's also worth noting that Covid-19 itself is much more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine is, and people who are vaccinated have a much lower risk of getting other serious complications caused by Covid 19.

Yes absolutely.

It goes like this.....

Poster "I had a frightening neurological condition start shortly after my vaccine"
Smug fucker "That's just correlation"

Another poster "I haven't been the same since, vit deficiency and swelling in armpits, frightening"
Smug fucker "That could have been underlying for years"

Quite a few posters "My friend/ family member has heart issues now/ I have heart issues now"
Quite a few smug fuckers "That probably wasn't the vaccine and that's if you're even telling the truth"

More posters "Super happy because when I had COVID it was mild/ happy not to be dead/ people are stupid saying they regret having a vaccine that LITERALLY SAVED THEIR LIVES"
Smug fuckers "Yes that absolutely definitely was because of the vaccine and not correlation, not because the original frightening COVID that caused burning lungs and people not to be able the take in enough breath to say a short sentence hasn't actually been the dominant variant for a long time, it also can't be because the statistical likelihood of survival (even with the worst original strain and pre vaccines) was still massively in your favour."

If you get the vaccine (presumably because you believe them to be safe and effective), then you have a frightening health experience then you re examine your stance on the vaccine in light of this, then that's not reliable and misinformation.

If you get the vaccine because you believe them to be safe and effective and have no reaction, then you conclude that every time you have COVID after would have been so much worse without the vaccine (confirmation bias) that is valid.

not because the original frightening COVID that caused burning lungs and people not to be able the take in enough breath to say a short sentence hasn't actually been the dominant variant for a long time

You do know that alpha was worse than the original strain, delta was worse than alpha and omicron is largely ‘milder’ due to immunity from vaccination or recent infection, don’t you?

For a safe vaccine, it's amazing the number of people who have suffered horrific side effects after taking them given it is only a " tiny percentage" unless of course you are calling them liars? I don't care what people do personally as long as they don't foist their vaccine obsession on others.

It's amazing how sweeping this statement is. Who/where are 'all these people'.?

I don't care what people do as long as they don't foist their anti vaccine obsession on others.

. I remember 2 years ago people were screaming how selfish the " tin foil anti vaxxers " were just for refusing the vaccine. They were all believers in lizards, flat earthers, daily fail readers apparently. Those demonising this group talking about going off to get a 6th booster are starting to look increasingly silly.

I remember a huge amount of screaming 2 years ago. And tbh it came from all directions. We all know that.

I think there are other groups who are looking increasingly stupid and some of them are on here. Roughly in inverse proportion to the general use of the vaccine.

A vague undated quote saying" research suggests overall" doesn't cut it I'm afraid. There are many articles from respected doctors showing the link between the vaccine and myocarditis outweighing the risk of covid to younger age demographics but no doubt there will be screams of misinformation so people can do their own research. I won't bother with links as unless it comes from the government funded BBC or main stream media no one believes it . Interesting we had doctors on ITV though telling us covid is stopped 100% from the vaccine which of course was a lie but no one bats an eyelid at that type of misinformation.

Tbh that's all as vague as the initial vague quote that doesn't cut it with you.

@itwasntmetho As someone who has had 4 and a bad neuro reaction after what could have been either covid or my 4th jab (they were very close) your post is correct. I don't regret the first two, I do regret the third and 4th as I had a slightly weird set of neuro issues after the 3rd- but still went along for the 4th . I haven't been right since. Maybe I did have something underlying but covid or the vaccine (I couldn't say) certainly freaked out my neurological system . Anyone who says yep- I've not been right since, I've now got tons of issues and tests coming out my ears but am popping along for jab number 5 is an idiot.

@FieldsOfRoses

A vague undated quote saying" research suggests overall" doesn't cut it I'm afraid. There are many articles from respected doctors showing the link between the vaccine and myocarditis outweighing the risk of covid to younger age demographics but no doubt there will be screams of misinformation so people can do their own research. I won't bother with links as unless it comes from the government funded BBC or main stream media no one believes it .

I had to laugh at this gem. "I don't like your source, but I won't provide you with my source either - just trust me, it's more credible than yours!"