If you could go back in time, would you still get the jab?

[Quweenie]

If you could go back in time, would you still get the Covid jab?

I don’t really care if you’re vaccinated or not, but I’m interested if people would go back and change their decision?

there are becoming far too many coincidences though. How come I know of 3 women of different ages who all had menstrual issues after their Covid vaccination (now actually KNOWN to cause problems but it wasn't at the time)? Then there's my mother who suddenly developed arthritis in one hand after the Covid jab-no coincidence, she had the flu vaccine in one arm and the Covid one in the other-arthritis in the hand of the covid jabbed arm. There are plenty more people who have been vaccine injured but few reports make the MSM-after all they are heavily censored...

@sunglassesonthetable "God alive. stop feeling so hard done by." would be a start - in fact all of your posts have a very haughty and aggressive tone, it's not really necessary.

you do all have to feel the same, and do as you are told unless you want a nasty pile on of spiteful aggressive comments on here!

Please.

And whinging like this doesn't help either.

Take a look at yourself
" spiteful, aggressive, nasty, saying you should "feel the same and do as you are told". 🙄

Err really? What tone is that you're taking?

I'm going to step back (which I imagine is why you are being so aggressive, to put off people with other opinions than yourself) as it's a waste of energy debating on if it is ok to be rude online to strangers and who is being the most rude!

@clarcats

The issue is that your observations are anecdotal or hunches or from sources that are even less regulated than MSM.

Even though you may think MSM - on a global scale - are lying to their readers, there is at least some regulation on what is reported. If you think one news source is dodgy, then there are other news sources. If you don’t like UK press - then you look to European news sources, or sources across the globe However, if you choose to listen to an alternative ‘think tank’ or YouTube video that is going against the global advice, it is completely unregulated. Therefore anyone who claims to be a doctor can say whatever they like with no expert backing, and without the essential peer review that is needed before a scientific idea can be put forward.

Billions and billions of vaccine does have been administered globally. The global data indicates that there maybe some initial change to your first period - which should settle down by your next.

It is not affecting fertility.

When there is talk of ‘fear’ - I actually think the anti science/vaccine deniers are responsible for stoking a great deal of fear and harm, and making the situation far worse. If you personally choose to not take the vaccine - that’s fine. But I have a real issue with peddling unverified misinformation, unverified anecdotal evidence and personal hunches. Imagine if a pregnant woman read what you said, and went against the advice of her doctor?

Oh, but @loulouljh - check this article out. England and Wales' total fertility rate rose for the first time in a decade in 2022.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/09/total-fertility-rate-rises-first-time-decade-england-wales

The same occurred in Australia.

blog.id.com.au/2022/population/population-trends/australias-birth-rate-increases-for-the-first-time-in-10-years/

Maybe widen your sources.

So 9 people who survived a pandemic now saying they wouldn't get the vaccine that probably saved them from the pandemic. You can't teach stupid.

It was never Ebola. Something can be a pandemic without having probability of death if you catch the illness. Many thousands had COVID pre vaccines and didn’t die, it was always the vast minority not surviving COVID.

Well put.

Over an entire population/the glove that minority is a very high number though. Vaccines for this family of viruses have been worked on for many years, scientists needed to tweak and test it for covid 19 specifically but why on earth wouldn't they attempt to roll something out that would save a shit load of lives?

Did you even read the post I was replying to?
The poster said that these nine specific people owed their lives to the vaccine and that they are stupid. Population level is not the same as individual level.

Over an entire population/the glove that minority is a very high number though. Vaccines for this family of viruses have been worked on for many years, scientists needed to tweak and test it for covid 19 specifically but why on earth wouldn't they attempt to roll something

Some re analysis of the trial data found serious adverse events in 1 in 800 people. Same goes really 🤷‍♀️

I know people will criticise this study, that’s standard fair these days. But whatever your view on vaccines, you have to think about letting these investigations happen - these companies are money making machines and it is possible that the integrity of their data is not as rigorous as we would want. They do have form for it and there are many questions outside of these vaccines about the way in which ‘gold standard science’ is delivered by Pharma companies. Anyway the point is, it can be dangerous both ways to ignore any harms from the vaccines, for example, if the myocarditis claims have been under reported, how would you feel if young men are unnecessarily getting heart issues when their risk from the virus was absolutely marginal.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22010283?via%3Dihub

Yes I would if things were as they were at the time. I don't think I'll get a booster now though just as there is a base level of immunity, the virus has evolved to overall be less harmful, and treatments are better known- I don't regret getting them though.

The stats show the risk of heart issues from covid itself is 7 x higher than from the vaccine, but i agree that for those who are low risk from covid itself the risk benefit is different to others who are at a higher risk of serious illness from covid. I don't think there's a 'right' answer for everyone.

Absolutely yes not thought twice about it
Theyve allowed us to return to normality and saved people the heartbreak of losing people they love

Good we are overpopulated
I'd not bring a kid Into this fucked up world now

@sunglassesonthetable thank you for taking the time to get one last dig and attempt at amateur psychology in, you are obviously a delightful person

@hamstersarse

It doesn’t really work when you cherry pick one study and then add your interpretation - which is heavily weighted against the vaccine - and contrary to global consensus opinion.

If there was as issue, scientists globally would analyse and advise accordingly - or compare/contrast with other studies.

They would then change their advice.

That isn’t happening.

You do not have superior knowledge to global consensus.

thank you for taking the time to get one last dig and attempt at amateur psychology in, you are obviously a delightful person

Oh please let it go. I suppose you wanted to be the last one getting the dig in.

Carry on.

Oh you already did.

There is little point engaging with that particular poster @MinkyGreen

Issues regarding that particular study, the cherry picking of evidence and their own personal agenda have been rehashed many a-time.

I never had any in the first place and I've had no cause to regret that decision.
Sorry if I'm derailing a perfectly good bunfight.

Cost of living crisis
Environmental factors
People who just don't want children
Wages not being high enough to support a family
People thinking they don't want to bring children into this shit storm!

I wanted children, I can't afford them so that's that

@sunglassesonthetable LOL can be the only response!

@FrostyFifi the playground does seem to be alive and well but some of the pupils seem to think they are the teachers!