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Is covid growing rampant again

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Prizlime · 05/10/2022 13:45

I read an article online and it says it is growing. Another article says that a newer symptom for starting off is a sore throat.

I am in work and my colleague and boss both have sore throats.

I'm supposed to be going away on holidays. I feel fine to be honest but the idea of getting sick right now or withing the next week doesn't appeal to me.

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 06/10/2022 19:28

Some people do know where they caught it from though. In other cases, there's a strong likelihood of where they caught it from e.g. driving to work and sitting all week in a small room with covid positive colleague - a certain type of poster would say 'but did you pass anyone in the car park? How can you prove it wasn't them?'

Sure, some people know. There are instances where people have only had one exposure to other humans during the relevant period. That has happened more than zero times. Most don't though, and nor do they even have situations like the one you describe here. OP fits into the not knowing category.

And the fact is that lots of people, again including the OP, completely discount asymptomatic transmission. We know this because she talks about the other people she knows and family members she was around not being sick, as though she could possibly know none of them were asymptomatically carrying anything that might make her ill. We don't even have tests for a lot of viruses, much less make them all available to the general public, so it's simply not a credible assumption. But discounting asymptomatic transmission fits well with the prevailing narrative some of you prefer...

Anon778833 · 06/10/2022 19:31

Why are some people saying it’s just a cold? The unvaccinated people I know who’ve had Covid were both ill in bed for 2 weeks with a ‘mild’ version. A cold lasts 5 days if you’re unlucky.

delilahhey · 06/10/2022 19:32

I am on my fifth time of getting it. I am an otherwise healthy 28 year old. I am much sicker and struggling to go about life compared to the other times. I am triple jabbed. It's the brain fog that's affecting me most.

I am still able to go about life though.

RainStalksMyWashing · 06/10/2022 19:42

I'm not discounting asymptomatic transmission. I was referring to a post where it was implied people couldn't know where transmission was from. A number greater than zero of those who have v strong reason to believe who/where they caught it may be wrong.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 06/10/2022 20:11

I'm not discounting asymptomatic transmission. I was referring to a post where it was implied people couldn't know where transmission was from. A number greater than zero of those who have v strong reason to believe who/where they caught it may be wrong.

The OP is though.

Iamnotalemming · 06/10/2022 20:19

Me and DH both currently have it. But different symptoms.
Me: tickly cough, brain fog, upset tummy, loss smell.
DH: temp, sore throat, headache, loss taste.

We thought we had acold. Then I realised couldn't smell the nappy I was changing!

F4chrissakes · 06/10/2022 21:50

There was a thread earlier today about someone worried about her Mum's mental state. Mum is still locking herself down now and missing out on life as she is terrified of catching covid. But this thread makes me wonder if Mum is right for now at least.
Didn't the 1918 flu epidemic take about 3 years to blow itself out?

justasking111 · 06/10/2022 22:23

OH sent me this information is interesting.

warofthemonstertrucks · 06/10/2022 23:40

The second and third waves of the 1918 flu pandemic (in the following years) were actually worse than the first in terms of death rate.

BeserkGiraffe · 07/10/2022 04:57

It's not selfish to need to keep a roof over your head.

Trying to justify deliberately soreading infections that you know will make many people seriously ill and kill others because you can't sort out your logistical issues properly to stay off work until you are not infectious - instead of spluttering on random people on public transport and in workplaces - is abhorrent, whatever the specific virus. How vile. This isn't just about Covid, it's about basic, basic respect for others that people should have had before the pandemic. To not have it now, still, is mind boggling.

Far fewer people would be ill in winter if people had this basic level of respect. And therefore everyone would have fewer sick days from work. This is obvious.

BeserkGiraffe · 07/10/2022 04:59

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 06/10/2022 07:00

Viral symptoms seems to be getting conflated with nasty symptoms here. They're not the same, one can have mild viral symptoms.

But even if they were, there are people who have no choice but to be out if they're physically capable of it because they can't afford to lose pay. Other people's failure to get their heads round it doesn't make two shits of difference.

Clearly. Other people woll still know they are selfish cunts though for deliberately spreading their diseases.

VampiresWife · 07/10/2022 07:17

BeserkGiraffe · 07/10/2022 04:57

It's not selfish to need to keep a roof over your head.

Trying to justify deliberately soreading infections that you know will make many people seriously ill and kill others because you can't sort out your logistical issues properly to stay off work until you are not infectious - instead of spluttering on random people on public transport and in workplaces - is abhorrent, whatever the specific virus. How vile. This isn't just about Covid, it's about basic, basic respect for others that people should have had before the pandemic. To not have it now, still, is mind boggling.

Far fewer people would be ill in winter if people had this basic level of respect. And therefore everyone would have fewer sick days from work. This is obvious.

How is not getting paid and being unable to pay your rent being 'unable to sort out your logistical issues'? It's not a logistical issue, it's an if I don't get paid I can't afford to eat issue.

Also, don't blame the worker who has no choice but to go into work. Blame a system that doesn't enforce things like sick pay.

VampiresWife · 07/10/2022 07:19

BeserkGiraffe · 07/10/2022 04:59

Clearly. Other people woll still know they are selfish cunts though for deliberately spreading their diseases.

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Nobody is 'deliberately spreading their diseases'. Nobody skips gleefully to the office thinking yay, I'm gonna give everyone my cold, what larks, weeeeeeee!

People go to work because they have no choice.

HTH.

KangarooKenny · 07/10/2022 07:26

I get tests free for work, but I heard someone buying them in the chemist and they were £11.50 for 5. No wonder people aren’t testing.

VampiresWife · 07/10/2022 07:31

KangarooKenny · 07/10/2022 07:26

I get tests free for work, but I heard someone buying them in the chemist and they were £11.50 for 5. No wonder people aren’t testing.

Exactly.

People are quick to shout 'selfish' when people don't test or can't stay off work, but they do so from a place of privilege clearly. If I had to choose between feeding my family or buying a box of tests it'd be a no-brainer.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 07/10/2022 08:15

Clearly. Other people woll still know they are selfish cunts though for deliberately spreading their diseases.

Evidently not clear enough for the person I corrected and their Marie Antoinette impersonation. Meanwhile, the bleating on about selfishness became a trope a long time ago.

Dishh · 07/10/2022 08:44

KangarooKenny · 07/10/2022 07:26

I get tests free for work, but I heard someone buying them in the chemist and they were £11.50 for 5. No wonder people aren’t testing.

Really? That's cheap. In Australia, we pay an average $50 for 5. (That's roughly double you're paying.) Generally, people do buy them and test as that's the accepted thing to do, or go and get a free PCR. That means waiting for results though.

VampiresWife · 07/10/2022 08:54

Dishh · 07/10/2022 08:44

Really? That's cheap. In Australia, we pay an average $50 for 5. (That's roughly double you're paying.) Generally, people do buy them and test as that's the accepted thing to do, or go and get a free PCR. That means waiting for results though.

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How on earth is that cheap? If you're a family of five with DC in school and you're testing for every sniffle, how much might you be spending on tests every month? There's a cost of living crisis, on the offchance you didn't know.

This is what I mean about privilege. Imagine thinking that people can afford to spend upward of £20 a month on tests, and that it's 'cheap'. Incredible.

tigger1001 · 07/10/2022 09:00

BeserkGiraffe · 07/10/2022 04:57

It's not selfish to need to keep a roof over your head.

Trying to justify deliberately soreading infections that you know will make many people seriously ill and kill others because you can't sort out your logistical issues properly to stay off work until you are not infectious - instead of spluttering on random people on public transport and in workplaces - is abhorrent, whatever the specific virus. How vile. This isn't just about Covid, it's about basic, basic respect for others that people should have had before the pandemic. To not have it now, still, is mind boggling.

Far fewer people would be ill in winter if people had this basic level of respect. And therefore everyone would have fewer sick days from work. This is obvious.

No one is deliberately spreading infections. Asymptotic people can spread infections too.

But you are missing the point. When the choice comes down to staying home or losing your job/not being able to pay your bills most people will "choose" paying bills/feeding family/keeping a roof over their head. It's not a real choice.

I had covid in January. Rules at the time were I had to isolate until day 5/6 and if two negative tests I could stop isolating. But isolating stopped at 10 days regardless. I was still positive at day 11 but was back to work per government guidelines. No idea when I stopped being positive.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 07/10/2022 09:04

This is what I mean about privilege. Imagine thinking that people can afford to spend upward of £20 a month on tests, and that it's 'cheap'. Incredible.

It would be interesting to hear the views of Australians whose financial situations are challenging enough that they can't view twenty quid as cheap, who can't afford the fifty Australian dollar test packs.

FamilyTreeBuilder · 07/10/2022 09:06

There are 5 of us in this house. And the Scottish government advice was always "flow before you go" - and that was before you go ANYWHERE. So work, school, supermarket, pub, theatre. Anywhere. So we'd all be "flowing" every day. £11.50 a day. £80.50 a week. That's a lot of money. (And a lot of plastic).

Also agree that writing off not going to work because you don't get paid as a "logistical issue" is bonkers.

RainStalksMyWashing · 07/10/2022 09:08

People are deliberately spreading infections - that's not to say some aren't caught between a rock and a hard place in doing so.

Dammitthisisshit · 07/10/2022 09:11

Prizlime · 05/10/2022 14:13

Well to be honest at this stage nobody else gives a rats ass any more about germs and passing on their doses. It's just a sore throat. Many people lived with sore throats for years. If it progresses. The vulnerable just needs to isolate if they don't want to catch it.

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Nice attitude. How do I isolate my primary school age children that bring home whatever is going round?

Many if us are walking a daily tightrope. That would be a lot less precarious if others implemented a few precautions that don’t affect their lives.

RainStalksMyWashing · 07/10/2022 09:18

Lots of people talk about cost. There are however people that will go to a gathering knowingly positive, go to a playgroup, go to a restaurant, get a taxi etc. They will sneer at someone supplying tests with a golden anniversary gathering, using the phrase 'we have to live with it / it's just a cold / anxiety / someone could be asymptomatic' to excuse anti-social and (yes, I'll be flamed, but selfish) behaviour. They'll also say 'why shouldn't I do x/y/z as someone else could have covid anyway' - again an excuse for shitty behaviour, as though maximising the risk in every situation is a good thing.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 07/10/2022 09:24

Eyes down for a full house people. Dabbers at the ready.

I've got selfish.
Mitigations.
Rampant.
Floored.

What am I missing?