Is covid growing rampant again

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I read an article online and it says it is growing. Another article says that a newer symptom for starting off is a sore throat.

I am in work and my colleague and boss both have sore throats.

I'm supposed to be going away on holidays. I feel fine to be honest but the idea of getting sick right now or withing the next week doesn't appeal to me.

I agree it's been over analysed. In the words of that annoying song from that film, 'Let it go, let it gooooo...'

In the words of that annoying song from that film, 'Let it go, let it gooooo...'

Advice you might take, yourself. You repeatedly claimed something was not said, when it clearly was said. Perhaps you have difficulty admitting when you are wrong.

I honestly think this has been over-analysed for no good reason. This was an honest statement of my experience in Aust., and not an attempt at speaking for a whole population (how could I even do that?

But you wrote generally people do buy them, which means something totally different from that's what happens in your personal experience. That bit only came way later. The fact that you used that terminology is actually incredibly telling one way or the other.

Additionally, if you actually do mean you accept you can't actually extrapolate that to a whole population, there can't possibly be any objection to people wanting to hear from people who unlike your circle can and do buy them.

I had not commented on this or interacted with the poster since yesterday afternoon (I believe another poster was having a long-running discussion about it with her however). I only responded this morning because my name was mentioned. It was a nothingy comment that had caused much debate between two posters, neither of whom was me.

LFTs aren't cheap, either at Australian or UK prices - that's just a fact, and no, I'm not wrong for saying so.

Now. Let it goooooo... 😆

The answer to 'NHS and social care problems' is not shutting down swathes of society and putting people out of work during a cost of living crisis.

Exactly, particularly as people would socialise privately and probably at greater density instead. I suppose the off licences would do well enough out of it, but still.

Ultimately, any proposal for a society wide measure (which maybe this isn't) falls into the we must do something and this is something category. We already know nothing short of full lockdown actually exerts any meaningful control over Omicron variants and sometimes not even that.

I agree with your point that we can't go back to social distancing in hospitality venues - they will struggle enough as it is this winter .

However I do think that masks on public transport and in supermarkets are a good idea . Simply because older or more vulnerable people often have no choice but to use these . For most people, it's not a huge hardship to pop a mask on for a limited period whilst you do your shopping or undertake your journey .

I also think that in work situations where people managed to get their job done perfectly adequately when working from home - then this should stay as an option for people - or maybe hybrid working.

I know that some people have raised improved ventilation as a means of reducing spread - not sure how that would work now when people are trying to save on hearing bills .

@PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior

But you wrote generally people do buy them, which means something totally different from that's what happens in your personal experience. That bit only came way later. The fact that you used that terminology is actually incredibly telling one way or the other.

FFS. Will you stop this? I was speaking about the people in my personal life. This equates to, now I think about it, a hundred people or so. Now, when prodded further about the high cost, I agreed it was high, and that schemes existed for those who could not afford tests. In my original post, too, I I noted that free PCRs are available. What on earth is "incredibly telling"?

Can I also add to masks being worn in medical settings .

PS the discussion around the cost of LFTs in Australia and who means what is now getting boring!

Agreed! I just don't see why she's banging on about it.

FFS. Will you stop this? I was speaking about the people in my personal life. This equates to, now I think about it, a hundred people or so. Now, when prodded further about the high cost, I agreed it was high, and that schemes existed for those who could not afford tests. In my original post, too, I I noted that free PCRs are available. What on earth is "incredibly telling"?

What is incredibly telling is that you initially said people generally did buy tests, then eventually claimed this isn't actually what you meant and by people generally you actually meant those who you know. If that's the truth, and it took you a while to come out with it, universalising your own experiences is never a good thing.

Also, you don't get to ask other people to stop and then carry on yourself. If you actually wanted this discussion to end, rather than just thinking you're entitled to decide when other people stop responding, you wouldn't be continuing with it yourself. Can't have it both ways.

We are currently in a society wide measure, with its attached costs, loss of businesses, loss of workforce (temp and longer term), loss of health, loss of life, impacts on services, impacts on NHS, along with all the long term costs.

We are currently in a society wide measure, with its attached costs, loss of businesses, loss of workforce (temp and longer term), loss of health, loss of life, impacts on services, impacts on NHS, along with all the long term costs.

None of which means any other societal measure that might be proposed is going to effectively tackle covid, much less be a net benefit. Covid is really shit and damaging isn't in itself an argument for a policy.

Public service announcement:

I live in Australia. When I post, I don't speak for all Australians. I would have thought most people would naturally infer this, but it seems some require it spelling out. I will also include a glossary and source for each word and sentence in future, as well as producing an actual replica Australian, poor or otherwise, to answer any questions posters may have.

This is my last post on this topic, @PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior. I've reported you.

Thank you.

Lmao lots of waaaaah boxes ticked there. Honestly, it's so much more edifying when people who've come out swinging own it, rather than going through the various stages and eventually trying to play the victim.

Jesus Christ, it's like a 3 man show on here, same people replying.

It's bonkers to me that wfh was so quick to be done away with, to be honest. I know some people prefer going into the office, but covid aside, work/life balance was improved for many, savings on travel (particularly useful at the moment), being able to work when you're just a little bit too unwell to go to work but ok to wfh... And slowing the spread of covid was also good, of course!

If people want to wear masks, they should, but I'm not sure mandatory masks should be a thing again for all the reasons I've already said.

There is still a lot of working from home going on and that's a societal trend that isn't going anywhere. But I agree there are people who could work remotely, particularly when ill, who aren't being afforded the opportunity.

I think some measures by which firms treat their staff show that they don't value them that much and that they are very much replaceable. Cost obviously comes into it too. For example, filming, which can have huge cost implications if staff are sick - staff are very well protected and covid is taken seriously. Teaching is an odd one, because some pupils are encouraged in even if infectious, which obviously impacts everyone's education, along with putting teacher at risk.

DD is a teacher and staff and pupils have to go in three days after testing positive. It's a SEND school with many very vulnerable children, which makes the stance even more perplexing.

@VampiresWife how is that not at odds with their safeguarding policy?

Who are the "Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency"?

Which of the documents on there has led to you being concerned?

Oops, right topic, wrong thread...

It's in line with their policy on sickness absence - in after 3 days if you're well enough. Basically covid is treated the same as any illness.

I have it at the moment. Runny nose, watering eyes, cough, massively aching legs, temperature, horrible night sweats and loss of smell. I couldn't smell my 1year olds dirty nappy an smeared it all over me while changing him on my lap . It's day 6 for me and feel much better, can smell again but still feels like having a bad cold. Never had a sore throat though.

So sickness policy actively encourages harm.