Is covid growing rampant again

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I read an article online and it says it is growing. Another article says that a newer symptom for starting off is a sore throat.

I am in work and my colleague and boss both have sore throats.

I'm supposed to be going away on holidays. I feel fine to be honest but the idea of getting sick right now or withing the next week doesn't appeal to me.

Well should I ever get it (haven't yet), I'll pass on my bank details to you and you can pay my bills whilst I stay at home..deal????

One thing that strikes me about this thread is the number of people who have had covid multiple times. The risk of long covid increases with repeated infection.
I had it for the second time recently, milder than first time but I was in hospital 8 days the first time. This time it was like a very bad cold.
Thing is, unless you have contact with small children you wouldn't expect to catch a cold that often. It feels like we can all expect to be ill with covid over and over again.

I have not had it yet and I only had first booster so far . Was In contact with a case on Monday night for 5 hours . I feel totally miserable now . Mild Sore throat and irritating cough , no energy but testing negative . Im supposed to go to a family wedding tomorrow. Don’t know what to do really . My son had a sore throat this week is fine now and he was negative too but he wasn’t in contact with anyone with covid .

Why doesn't it hold up? I take it you don't have experience with an employer who will interview employees and put disciplinary measures in place who have more than 3 periods of sickness in a year? Or understand that statutory sick pay has waiting days so one day off means no pay for that day.

Employers do still expect employees to only phone in sick if they are too poorly to work. Not just feeling a bit under the weather. It's fine if you are able to work from home if feeling under the weather but not everyone has that ability.

You said this far better than I did, and fully agree.

I get that some can't afford it - but why is it fair that others are deliberately infected when they can't afford to be either?

Of course it isn't fair. None of this is fair. Pandemics aren't.

It isn't. Especially as it seems quite random who gets it badly enough to need a week or more off work, and who gets long covid symptoms debilitating enough to impact ability to work.

But generally, the people who get it most are the poor, BAME, the elderly and those with certain other medical conditions.

The question really boils down to whether we want to mitigate or marginalise those groups further.

I would prefer to see mitigation - masks in some settings (eg public transport, as poorer communities are less able to self-mitigate as car ownership is lower) during periods of rapid rises (and always in medical facilities, as without safe care NHS is sunk). Plus investment in ventilation (benefits everyne)

And as mentioned earlier on the thread - Evulsheld. I think it's just plain wrong that it's not available in UK, despite being approved

This is how I am thinking as well. I had 4 bouts of sick this summer. 3 of them was passed on through work. One colleague was partying it up for a weekend and began ill. Never once did he consider covid an came into work sick and with heavy sinitius and he doesn't usually suffer with that. My contacts are still low. Not out of choice but when work takes so much of your time, there's little time for much else. I came down with the same dose he had and it was covid.

About two weeks after that I was back in work and another colleague announced he had nausea for hours the evening before and he was sick the night before but it was better now. Two days later I became ill with the same dose. I wasn't able to sleep with vomiting and diarrhoea and fever and I couldn't keep fluids down. When I did sleep, I shit my pants. It was horrific and so soon after covid too. Two sicknesses in a fortnight from other people and their fucking greed, selfishness and negligence.

It doesn't bode well for monkey pox. Many people will see it as a human right ró spread it around to all and sundry.

There's a certain breed of MNer who just knows exactly who gave them extremely common and easily transmissible illnesses, and is also certain that these people contracted it doing something they disapprove of. It's uncanny.

My family wasn't sick. I don't use public transport. I did not get sick from thin fucking air. The majority of my movements were in work. Its a small and close set up and these people were sick prior to me coming down with sickness. I was even going shopping because of the work load and hours I have. I do groceries online. My sicknesses didn't come from thin air.

I wore masks around my family and I was able to isolate and I never gave the sicknesses that I came down with.

Who said I disapproved of partying?

He came down with a dose of mixing with people and wrote off covid as a possibility. I became unwell days after spending time with him in work. He could have at least considered covid as a possibility after mixing with people.

Again, it's not the fault of the person who had to go into work with covid. It's the fault of employers, and the government.

You're right, it's not fair. But make sure your blame is aimed at the right quarters.

How is it 'greedy' or 'selfish' to go into work when you have no choice?

I'm beginning to think you're one of our covid doomposters of yore, back to agitate. It's the mention of monkeypox that's the convincer, I think.

You described him as being greedy, selfish and negligent OP. You also clearly think you know how he contracted his illness, we wouldn't have heard all about the partying otherwise, when actually, you have no idea. Unless we're about to be drip fed that he told you he'd been nowhere for a fortnight prior.

You also state that 'the majority' of your movements were in work, which means they weren't all.

Nobody ever seems to have got ill from asymptomatic people though. Odd, that.

The majority of my movements were in work

The majority, but not all. Did you not answer the door for your grocery delivery, for example? Is the only place you go, work? Ever?

There's no need for the aggressive tone, either.

I'm beginning to think you're one of our covid doomposters of yore, back to agitate. It's the mention of monkeypox that's the convincer, I think.

Lockdown Christmas, anyone?

Excuse me? Do you know him? He'd be on 50 or 60 k a year. He's not someone in poverty, counting his pennies at home and working every hour. The man had a choice. He could have at least chosen to wear a mask when he was sick but he didn't.

Mixing with others when you are displaying signs of sick - fever, cough, vomiting, diarrhoea - it's pure greedy and selfish and carelessness and nothing but.

Agreed.

Illnesses generally are not fair.

Delivery drivers never came into my house and groceries delivered to the door. I don't remember them showing signs of sickness or coughing into my face at the door. That was little to no risk.

The biggest expis8risk in the days before my covid sickness was that man from work. There was no one else in my circle sick.

Some people do know where they caught it from though. In other cases, there's a strong likelihood of where they caught it from e.g. driving to work and sitting all week in a small room with covid positive colleague - a certain type of poster would say 'but did you pass anyone in the car park? How can you prove it wasn't them?'

You really don't understand how viruses are spread, do you? People can be completely asymptomatic and still transmit them, or be incubating a virus and be contagious prior to displaying symptoms. Not showing symptoms doesn't mean no virus present.

That coupled with your idea that you can flush covid out of your gut (?!) by using laxatives suggests you really don't understand viruses and how they work, even in very basic terms.

🎶 I'm dreaming of a Zoom Christmas
Just like the ones we used to know 🎶

Exactly .

If you are shut in a room with someone for 5 hours who is coughing and sneezing it is far more likely you would pick up their germs - than a random delivery person who spends 30 seconds popping something on your door step. I don't think it's the OP who doesn't understand transmission here.

I didn't say it wasn't more likely, I said that you cannot be 100% sure where you caught something. Unless you've had no contact with anyone, and neither has anyone you live with, you could've caught a virus anywhere, from someone symptomatic or asymptomatic.