No isolation when covid positive in March

[Whathefisgoingon]

I just cannot get my head around this.

As far as I know, no other country has announced this.

For two years they’ve told us that it’s dangerous and now they’re prepared to send me to work directly next to someone infected with covid?

I had always believed it should be more socially acceptable to simply stay home when sick, as too many feel forced in to work with flu etc, but this takes the biscuit.

I understand we need to find a way to get back to some kind of normal but this seems extreme.

Will this really happen in less than 2 months!?

@Againstmachine

Well seeing as most will be vaccinated as is my mother I don't think we have much to worry about.

Exactly. If everyone who needs the vaccine has had it then they've protected themselves as much as possible. So if they don't feel comfortable and doubt the vaccine is working (which tbh it's not really) then they need to be the ones taking extra precautions, and the rest of the world needs to get on with their lives.

Let's face it. The virus has about a 99.6% survival rate.

If you were told you had a 0.4% chance of shitting your pants this year, would you wear a nappy and stay home for the rest of your life? No. You'd suck if up and accept that you had a 99.6% chance of being perfectly fine and go on with the rest of your life

I suspect a lot of people are out and about with covid anyway right now so I don’t think this will make too much of a difference.

Well my DS has been stuck at home for 5 days including his test day with no symptoms. Hopefully we'll get a negative tomorrow and Tuesday and he can go to school. He has SEN and needs to be in school. Dh tested positive a day after him and has had two days of very mild symptoms, still working at home as normal. I've been negative throughout but at home with DS and my work disrupted.

I know everyone is different and people have different circumstances but this week has been frustrating. With DS being asymptomatic and no idea how long he'd been positive for anyway, he's only 5 and I'm not testing a well 5 year old without need.

It's not working at the moment. I had to send my dc into school as no positive and none of the three symptoms. House had covid, they tested two day later.

There will be many positive cases and always have been due to 1/3 asymptomatic

It’s interesting to see where my parents are testing is very strained, and hard to get results and even more people would just have omicron, hospitals are ok but also lower disruption

Here even though it was sold as ‘staying safe’ for so long it was about capacity so if the health service isn’t under strain then all the costly precautions will likely stop

@Northernsoullover

If I feel ill I'll be staying home. If I'm not feeling ill I'll be staying home but would probably say I'm feeling ill though. I get full pay though. That is the difference.

No wonder the economy is f*cked.

@winegetsmethroughit

Exactly eithier it's working or it isn't, and of it doesn't why do we care if someone has it or not

I want someone caring for my mum who has her best interests.

I'm in awe of how crazy people are about a virus they have been vaccinated about 3 times.

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

My sons school has just had to close for a week as a circuit break because 30% of the pupils were in isolation and 20% of the staff. Head says nearly all are asymptomatic (cases only discovered when they did the weekly testing in the gym) and he would have preferred to keep school open and continue as normal but rules is rules.

Hopefully new rules will mean you only have to isolate if you are sick.

@Comefromaway

I agree with it. I think we have to start treating Covid like any other nasty virus/flu/infectious disease such as chickenpox.

People I know who are now catching it, including CEV people, who are vaccinated are finding it is flooring them for a few days, then they get better. We can’t isolate forever.

Agreed. Though I also know a lot of people who have long since stopped testing themselves every time they have a sniffle. I've had several colds in the past year - any one of them could have been Covid, and I would be none the wiser. I suppose the government, having put the nuclear bomb of lockdown into people's lives, is finally seeing sense (but too late).

Ok - this has made me really rethink things because I am very Iaissez-faire about Covid and will be delighted to see the end of mask wearing, testing and isolation, am thoroughly against legally required vaccination etc - however, if I had a 0.4 % chance of shitting myself I would absolutely probably invest in incontinence pants. Now I don’t know what to think about my view of Covid.

@UnshakenNeedsStirring

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

But vulnerable people are triple jabbed and are at liberty to wear suitable masks to protect themselves. The entire country cannot be responsible for them forever.

@UnshakenNeedsStirring

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

We currently ‘find’ around 1/3 positive cases. Which means hundreds of thousands of people are out and about with covid every single day, now.

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

They are at least tripple jabbed , what more you want us to do.

Protect yourselfs you want us to stop society to protect everyone

My CEV relative in the most vulnerable category ( undergoing Chemo) caught Covid. They had had 4 jabs and had access to the antivirals /antibodies drip it was fairly mild and they were back to normal within a few days.
It’s not all doom and gloom .

@UnshakenNeedsStirring

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

I think living with restrictions for almost 2 years shows a great deal of care from society, if you have been vaccinated and take your own precautions, that is enough.

It can't continue forever, even if some people want it to.

You can still go off sick with it. It will just be treated like any other virus.Go off sick of you are too sick to work. Come back when you feel better.

Do people who think all isolation should go as they don't get paid, do you go into work with flu, D&V, notifiable diseases?

@Againstmachine

Basically, don't get cancer,, because you won't be safe if you need chemo, not even in hospitals

Do fuck off my mum is undergoing chemo and is getting great.m treatment and still will be.

I'm not the person who wrote this (so not the person you're telling to "fuck off") but you clearly don't understand what they are saying.

I would be happier if all vulnerable people had access to anti virals of isolation stops. Currently, not even all people who have been vaccinated four times are able to receive them.

I wonder if health care staff would still need to isolate? As lack of staff verses care of patients seems a tricky balance,

@UnshakenNeedsStirring

Its throwing all the vulnerable people under the bus, they are dispensable. Society no longer cares about the critically ill

I think it’s actually the opposite - a shortage of NHS staff/care workers caused by unnecessary self isolating will have far more impact on public health than the now minimal risk of covid, especially as the vulnerable and/or elderly are as fully vaccinated as they can be.

My daughter teaches in a secondary school and currently has a third of her class off after testing positive. All are asymptomatic and and she suspects there are far probably more cases but many parents are no longer testing as it’s becoming too problematic - and she quite agrees.

@Whathefisgoingon

And how does that work for CEV? No laws in place to force employers to protect them etc. My employers haven’t given a hoot about CEV since it began and certainly won’t in March!

The government response has never been about about protecting individuals who are CEV. It is about the amount of health care available. They adjust the response according to the overall number of people who will need to go to hospital, so they don’t have bodies piling up in the street. It is the same in lots of countries.

I think other countries will move towards this soon. Here in the US, the isolation period is down to five days, plus five more of wearing a mask. As we all have to wear masks in most indoor spaces anyway ( including all schools) with no exemptions, that really means it’s just five days.

My DS tested positive, we all isolated and no one else in the family caught it. He was completely asymptomatic, tbh, would never have known unless we tested regularly.

Personally, I think it’s time to return to normal. If you’re CEV, as my late Mum was, you’re unfortunately at risk of every cold germ out there.

@toomuchlaundry

Do people who think all isolation should go as they don't get paid, do you go into work with flu, D&V, notifiable diseases?

But with flu and D&V you are actually unable to go to work as you are so ill.

Omicron is mild for the majority of people, that's the key difference here. I had the "alpha" strain very early on (caught it from someone who had skied in Italy in Feb 2020) - it was horrendous and I came very close to requiring hospitalisation.

I had omicron last November (after two jabs but before the booster) and it felt nothing like the first illness. It was all up in my throat and sinus like any other cold, I had a mild fever and felt a bit off colour that's about it.

People, in the main, can honestly deal with this now. Anyone who is CEV will need to continue to mask and keep social distance: we should all respect anyone who wishes to carry on like this but it should not be law to do so.