I'm triple jabbed so why am I so ill?

[whatisheupto]

I know covid vaccinations don't stop you contracting the virus or passing it on.

I've had Covid for a week. I'm not awfully, awfully ill. But I'm pretty ill and just when I thought I was feeling slightly on the mend, I now seem to be going into the tiredness phase where everything is exhausting.

If I hadn't had the vaccines would I most likely have been much more ill? Or is it that I've caught a strain that the vaccines were never going to work against?

Can't help wondering why I'm feeling so crap when I've had all 3 jabs.

@Chipstick10

I am unvaccinated. I have natural immunity. Every single person without exception that has caught Covid again has been double or triple jabbed. Connection? Yes

Can you think of a reason why, when the majority of the country is vaccinated, that most people with covid are also vaccinated???

If 100% of people were vaccinated, then 100% of covid positive people would be vaccinated. 0% percent if the positives would be in unvaccinated people. Shocking!!!!

How are we this far in and people still don't understand basic stats re covid infections v unvaccinated/vaccinated people?

@KurtWilde

I had original covid this time last year, I didn't feel great obviously, but I've had far worse illnesses over the years! Even my great aunt in her 80s couldn't understand what all the fuss was about, said she'd had worse hayfever! But then she survived polio which really WAS a serious illness for ANY age group. And the country didn't grind to a halt for that.

This is laughable and ludicrous at best, offensive, insulting, and dangerous at worst. Yeah sure, some people are going to have milder symptoms than others, but your post suggests 'well it was only like hayfever for me and me great aunt, so bog off with all the 'it's a serious illness comments.'

I said 'good job you have had all 3 jabs or you could have died' to the OP, because if she is VERY ill with covid after having all 3 jabs, then it would have been MUCH WORSE if she had been unvaccinated.

Your comments are ignorant, offensive, and dangerous.

Also, I agree with @theusuall how hilarious that @PurpleDaisies insists something is faked when it doesn't suit her views, but anything that DOES suit her views is real.

Typical batshittery of the deniers.

@teaandtoastwithmarmite

I'm triple jabbed. Had it last week and in November. Was pretty ill in November. Not too bad now. I think the jab is a load of bollocks now.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous. The vast VAST majority of people who are hospitalised (and in intensive care) with covid, are the ones who were unvaccinated. Were you in intensive care??? No, I thought not! Without the jabs you could have died. Quit the 'what's the point in the vaccinations' bullshit!

The poster who linked to the Public Health Scotland report obviously hadn't read it. It clearly shows that vaccines prevent hospitalisation. It seems fairly obvious to me that if you haven't been vaccinated and don't believe covid is an issue, you're far less likely to take a pcr or even a lateral flow test.

My DH had ClassicCovid before the vaccinations were rolled out. He lost a stone and a half in 10 days, literally spent a week in bed, passed out splitting his head open going for a wee, and was on a phased return to work for almost three months. The ambulance that came when he collapsed wouldn't take him into hospital so he was officially a mild case. Mild doesn't mean you can shake it off and go about your daily business.

@HelloFrostyMorning I can see how vulnerable people who haven't been jabbed could be affected so badly so apologies of the wording of my comment. I meant I don't think we all need one.

Fair enough @teaandtoastwithmarmite I just get so narked off with people saying 'what's the point of the jab coz I was still ill and so on,' as it is encouraging people do not have it, which will inevitably lead to more hospitalizations and deaths...

Some of the comments on here are batshit!

What I don't get is why people think that governments all over the world, who agree on nothing else, are pushing so hard for people to get jabbed if it's ineffective.

Wow! This thread!

To add to the cacophony of views, here is mine.
Managed to dodge Covid until 2 weeks ago. Vaccinated plus boosted. Had a strong reaction to first and 3rd doses.

God Covid-19 from a household contact and have been feeling SO ill. 39-40° in temperature for the first 3 days, covid cough, loss of sense of smell, each teary eyes, muscle ache and so so tired. If this is a cold, it's a fucking bad one friends. My dc had it with a light temp and sore throats. Thankfully they didn't experience anything like me.

There is still so much to find out about this virus and how we are reacting to it. Stupid bat that spread it in the first place .

*Achey teary eyes

@theusuall

Its per 100,000 people over all. Not per 100000 vaccinated people or per 100000 unvaccinated people.

So say the vaccinated rate is 91%
91000 vaccinated
9000 unvaccinated

In Jan 8-14, 32 unvaccinated people were hospitalised (0.35%), 84 vaccinated people were in hospital (0.09%). So while the 84 people is higher than 32 there are proportionately more unvaccinated people in hospital.

@xenobitch
From an anecdotal level I know 24 people personally who have had it in the past few weeks. All above the age of 16 were triple vaccinated, none suffered more than one with mild headache and one with body aches (flu like symptoms). Anecdotes depend on who is in your social group. Anecdotally the 40 year old with no comorbidities that I assisted to intubate last week with o2 sats of 42% was unvaccinated.

I do feel you should have freedom, get it if you want don't if you don't but thankfully the evidence seems to be showing that the vaccines are effectively reducing hospitalisations and death and as a result giving people who are clinically extremely vulnerable the confidence to be able to socialise again.

It’s Also, I agree with @theusuall how hilarious that @PurpleDaisies insists something is faked when it doesn't suit her views, but anything that DOES suit her views is real.*
Typical batshittery of the deniers.

What? I’m not a covid denier. Look at my posting history. I’ve linked to scientific sources of evidence over and over again. I was challenging theusual on misrepresenting what the public health Scotland report meant became they’d ignored all the caveats about just looking at the raw data to determine vaccine effectiveness.
The vaccines are highly effective against hospitalisations and death. I even posted a screen shot saying as much on this thread.

Did you mean tag someone else? I am really confused.

My bold failed and I don’t manage to tag @HelloFrostyMorning

[quote HelloFrostyMorning]@KurtWilde

I had original covid this time last year, I didn't feel great obviously, but I've had far worse illnesses over the years! Even my great aunt in her 80s couldn't understand what all the fuss was about, said she'd had worse hayfever! But then she survived polio which really WAS a serious illness for ANY age group. And the country didn't grind to a halt for that.

This is laughable and ludicrous at best, offensive, insulting, and dangerous at worst. Yeah sure, some people are going to have milder symptoms than others, but your post suggests 'well it was only like hayfever for me and me great aunt, so bog off with all the 'it's a serious illness comments.'

I said 'good job you have had all 3 jabs or you could have died' to the OP, because if she is VERY ill with covid after having all 3 jabs, then it would have been MUCH WORSE if she had been unvaccinated.

Your comments are ignorant, offensive, and dangerous.

Also, I agree with @theusuall how hilarious that @PurpleDaisies insists something is faked when it doesn't suit her views, but anything that DOES suit her views is real.

Typical batshittery of the deniers.

@teaandtoastwithmarmite

I'm triple jabbed. Had it last week and in November. Was pretty ill in November. Not too bad now. I think the jab is a load of bollocks now.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous. The vast VAST majority of people who are hospitalised (and in intensive care) with covid, are the ones who were unvaccinated. Were you in intensive care??? No, I thought not! Without the jabs you could have died. Quit the 'what's the point in the vaccinations' bullshit![/quote]
Oh bore off. I'm not the only one who's said they've had it mildly or it was just like a cold. Newsflash, it was mild for THE MAJORITY of people who've had it. Jabbed or unjabbed.

Because you'd have felt even worse if you hadn't been jabbed OP

We live in odd times when people's health, which on the whole is a fairly private matter is being discussed in such a polarised and argumentative way rather than with empathy and a sense of looking out for each other.

@Beseen22 Its per 100,000 people over all. Not per 100000 vaccinated people or per 100000 unvaccinated people.

Is it? The population sizes in each group are different though.

Unvaccinated: 3601 out of 979,617
Vaccinated: 9363 out of 995,855
Boosted: 13,566 out of 2,982,132

So they know the population (roughly) of each cohort, why would they disregard the individual populations and lump them all together for the X per 100k figure? Makes no sense. You can clearly see when looking at the figures (even without doing a calculation) that the proportions for vaxed are larger.

And to the point about unvaccinated people not testing: remember this is Scotland where vax passes are / were in use. Every unvaccinated person I know tests because it gives you an immunity pass which can be used instead of a vax pass. I'm aware that's anecdotal and of course there will be some deniers who refuse to test, but I don't know any personally. Everyone I know tests regularly and at the first sign of symptoms (so they can get a pass for events and book a holiday etc!)

It’s amusing when people claim “anecdotal evidence” but get offended when asked to prove it and then ask that person to disprove their own point. I couldn’t give a fuck if any individual chooses not to be vaccinated for whatever reason, your body and your choice but don’t derail with bollocks that might put someone off being vaccinated. If it’s not bollocks, prove it.

Wish you better, OP. Rest up!

I think the definition bog “mild” can mean anything from a sniffle to full on in bed .. raging temp etc .. but if it doesn’t lead to you going into hospital .. it’s mild .. I had flu in January 2019 and felt bloody awful .. I could barely get up to go to the loo and had crushing fatigue for weeks afterwards - then I recovered with no after effects , so this was mild really compared to the flu had in 2005 which led to me being hospitalised with pnuemonia and taking months and months to recover from
Hope you feel better soon - my friend is on day 11 and still feels rotten (triple jabbed)

Mild doesn't always mean just a sniffle and a bit of a headache... I know quite a few people who've had covid recently (mostly women in their 30s and 40s) and everyone's been pretty ill for 7-10 days but not so ill that they've been seriously worried or at risk of needing hospitalisation or anything like that. Definitely more ill than they would usually be with a cold though - mostly because of the fatigue and brain fog, so they've not been able to work (from home).

That is how the vaccines are working though. You just need to look at the hospitalisation and death rates now compared to pre-vaccines and the difference is huge.

@IamnotSethRogan

*XenoBitch

A lot of people with Covid say they could have been more poorly if they had not been jabbed... but they don't know.
I have seen so much anecdotal evidence that vaccinated people are suffering more with Omicron than unvaccinated.*

Bollocks

Yep you are right Some people are just getting worse with spouting of rubbish

@Jedsnewstar

Doctors: the jab won’t stop you getting it but will reduce the severity Joe dumb Public: the jab is fake I had it and I still got covid Doctor: yeah we said that Joe dumb public: see your admitting it, doctor admits you will still get it, told you all Doctor: wha…. Na forget it believe what you like I’m busy saving lives P

So true!

Shown by the poster above with the line

"I don’t believe the vaccine makes any difference on how it effects you. I know lots of people who have been very sick after multiple vaccinations. My cousin has had it 3 times, fully vaccinated, he works in a prison where it’s ripe, the last time he had it he was off work for 3 weeks he was so sick and that’s after boosters. ....". Ignoring evidence after evidence and going by your cousin. Classic (rife)

I see the same old antivaxxers are peddling their bullshit and getting away with it.