Anyone else done now?

[VeryMuchSo13]

Know I'll get slated but I'm so past caring.

Anyone else just completely done with it now? Ran out of LFTs ages ago and I'll never do another again, wouldn't even go for a PCR now with symptoms tbh. I'd stay in until I felt better like I do with everything else and then crack on.

The only reason I wear masks in shops is because of people moaning if you don't. As soon as it's no longer required that'll be in the bin.

I actually took it really seriously the past two years and did everything we were supposed to. Triple jabbed etc etc... But I can't be arsed giving it anymore headspace now. I'm sick of hearing about it, sick of seeing it on the news, sick of people talking about it.

From today on I highly doubt I'll ever voluntarily think about Covid again, in a way that restricts anything I do anyway.

Boris ended up in the ICU in April 2020 so I'm guessing he realised Covid was a risk to his health then.

But that doesn't answer my question. How will you get on with your life when your kids are being sent home at a moments notice, hospitals will be full even during the summer etc etc?

@BettyfromBristol

No, not done here. Was diagnosed as CEV last week so will be doing my best to avoid people who simply don't care about me and the very many people in the same situation.

Lucky for you to be "done" with it though.

Exactly. Two people I know have died in the last two weeks from it and if my mum was to catch it or my dad that would almost certainly be that. It's all very well staying in if I feel rough but if I'm asymptomatic and pass it on I could kill someone

[quote 1dayatatime]@EmmaH2022

I guess the point I am clumsily trying to make is that back on the 20th May 2020 either:

A) Covid was indeed, as per the official guidance, press releases and science a real risk to the lives of majority of the population. Yet 100 politicians and civil servants chose to go to a piss up simply because they are reckless partly animals that don't care about their own safety and probably do base jumping at the weekend for giggles or

B) Covid or the actual risk of catching it and dying from it was actually minimal and certainly not worth missing out on a drinks party for. So that the rest of us have effectively been lied to, unnecessarily scared shitless, conned and the last two years sacrifice was for nothing.

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B - For most people it is a low risk but the higher risk couldn’t all need healthcare at the same time so infection had to slow down. For that we all had to change behaviour, eg by using messaging that got compliance.

[quote Allsorts1]@BettyfromBristol

People who are CEV have ALL my sympathies, that must be bloody tough. However I also don’t really understand how it relates to continued restrictions. If you’re CEV for covid surely you were CEV for bad a winter flu as well? What did CEV people do back in pre-covid times during winter and why has the onus shifted onto society now? Genuinely seeking to understand rather than criticise or seem unfeeling so I hope you don’t take that the wrong way![/quote]
Well you'd avoid a vulnerable person if you had the flu but you could have covid and not know. Passing it on could kill them, it's not the same as the flu

Yup - unfortunately DD has it so Covid didn’t get my memo, the cunt.

@Madhairday

Thanks, Sparkling. I'm just ranting because I see so many minimising it and even calling it psychological. I know 2 children very severely affected (one with serious heart issues) and it's just heartbreaking to read all the posts that bang on and on about how no children are affected and long covid is just a bit of tiredness. I'm just worried about the amount still getting it and the government's uselessness in supporting them :(

Agree. I try not to come on these threads as I find them so triggering. My DD was seriously harmed by Covid in 2020 and also has severe PTSD. She has been sobbing since yesterday when she saw the news about masks. She thinks she's never going to get her life back, and frankly it's hard to see how she will. You'd think we were asking for people to donate their kidneys instead of wearing a mask to give everyone a chance of a life.

@Tealightsandd

So much for the often talked about concern for mental health expressed by the anti mitigation crew btw.

I wouldn't advise telling the bereaved families of the 300+ a day being killed by Covid to 'just deal with it', nor the many newly disabled Long Covid sufferers.

Going to a "with Covid" family funeral next week. But given that he was 85, consumed by cancer, got Covid in hospital while in there for a third condition and the cancer treatment was affected by a fourth condition in the first place, I'm not sobbing over the Covid bit. If the Covid robbed him of a few weeks of life, it did him a favour sparing him from confusion, being bedbound and extremely limited visitors if any before the other conditions got him.

No change to my "deal with it" attitude.

Same as we dealt with whatever the post-viral fatigue that hammered DS Dec 2019-March 2020. I can't say that it was Covid, but it certainly behaved in a Covid-like way for the initial strain.

But then I dealt with it when my dad actually did drop dead in the street when I was a child. Long before "bodies in the streets" were supposed to be trendy.
Shame defribulators weren't a thing in the 90s.

I just wish that I'd been allowed to just deal with life for the past two years.

@Sparklingbrook

Boris ended up in the ICU in April 2020 so I'm guessing he realised Covid was a risk to his health then.

I'm dubious as to how ill he really was. I wouldn't put it past him to take a bed for a day or so to seem worse than he was. Or even pretend to take a bed.

We spent two years thinking if my CEV relative got it that would be the end. Their GP said 'you really don't want to get this' at the start. Two years later they did get it but as I've already said they had had 4 jabs and got anti virals in the 5 day window and they came through. A positive outcome.

I'm dubious as to how ill he really was. I wouldn't put it past him to take a bed for a day or so to seem worse than he was. Or even pretend to take a bed

I suppose you can speculate if you want, but I am sure there were HCPs treating him that could confirm.

@bakewelltarty

But that doesn't answer my question. How will you get on with your life when your kids are being sent home at a moments notice, hospitals will be full even during the summer etc etc?

Yep - I work in a nursery school and we have had to close for (at least) a week because so many of the staff have Covid (not to mention multiple children poorly with it too). So even those families who don't have Covid now have no childcare. You can be 'done with it' as much as you like, but that won't stop it forcing nurseries/school classes from shutting.

I'm so sorry, @BonnesVacances. I totally understand why threads like this upset you so much. I hear you.

If you're sick of people talking about I wouldn't recommend starting a thread on here.
Yep, I'be had enough too, but we're still following the rules and will still wear face masks after they're not compulsory. Just for a while to see how the data reflects the changes. With schools aged children I'm not keen to pass it on to my CEV parents.

The thing about covid is that you don't know how it will affect you. I'm assuming most of the 'I'm done' pps didn't have it badly or lose anyone from it. My otherwise healthy 50 year old sister spent 5 weeks in icu. I have never felt so scared and so helpless and I had cancer in my thirties. My 80 year old mum caught it at the same time and was fine. I suppose that means I could never just say 'I'm done' because when it happens to you or someone you love it really brings it home to you how vicious and unpredictable this virus can be.

@bakewelltarty

Am I misunderstanding or do most of you now think the pandemic is over? Do you think that because you won't be wearing a mask, testing or social distancing that covid is gone? How will you feel when your child is sent home from school from lack of teachers or you can't have your much needed operation? Don't get me wrong, im happy for you all but can't help feeling many of you are not being realistic about the challenges we still face and that could actually get worse with no mitigations.

So what if they miss a week off school? Children are resilient! They're bouncing back after being told not to worry about being denied 6.5 months of school because their parents weren't of worthy occupations. They'll catch up! Oh and missing weeks off because one classmate felt a bit poorly for a few days. What's another week after all that?

I work in a nursery school and we have had to close for (at least) a week because so many of the staff have Covid (not to mention multiple children poorly with it too).

Self isolation is ending in March, but, new rules say self isolation can end on day 5 if negative test on day 5 and 6, but if you have to wait till day 6 how can it end on day 5?

Why do people think that school/nursery staff are just self isolating, most are ill!!!

BogRollBOGOF

Well that might not be so easy for working parents.

@Sparklingbrook

Boris ended up in the ICU in April 2020 so I'm guessing he realised Covid was a risk to his health then.

Yet by the 20th May he was attending and happy for a 100 person piss up to take place at his house / place of work. Clearly he wasn't taking it that seriously, even after his sejour in ICU.

most are ill!!!

If Covid is relegated to ‘just a cold’ being ill with it becomes not a reason to not go in, it only counts if you physically can’t stand up and even then it will be treated as questionable when you return because someone’s aunties neighbour was able to run a marathon with 10 children strapped to her whilst she had COVID etc

Well it's a good job that it's not 'just a cold' then.

@OppsUpsSide

It's 5 full days of isolation, if you test negative on the 5th day and then again on the morning of the 6th day, you can then end isolation.

[quote 1dayatatime]@EmmaH2022

I guess the point I am clumsily trying to make is that back on the 20th May 2020 either:

A) Covid was indeed, as per the official guidance, press releases and science a real risk to the lives of majority of the population. Yet 100 politicians and civil servants chose to go to a piss up simply because they are reckless partly animals that don't care about their own safety and probably do base jumping at the weekend for giggles or

B) Covid or the actual risk of catching it and dying from it was actually minimal and certainly not worth missing out on a drinks party for. So that the rest of us have effectively been lied to, unnecessarily scared shitless, conned and the last two years sacrifice was for nothing.

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Yes. But the data showed that from the start.

Sorry but it's infuriating to have been called names for having said "please look at the data" in March 2020 and now have all this "oh, hang on, we've been lied to".

Yes. And those of us who tried to say that, looking at ONS and NHS data were labelled anti vaxxers and all sorts of nonsense.

If you didn't know you were being lied to, that's on you. Many people tried to warn you. Many people went on marches. Many people are still now trying to support care workers who have been sacked and NHS workers who might be sacked.

Sorry but it's just so INFURIATING to hear all this "ermagerd, they lied, I am shocked". Threads were pulled, discussion around informative articles was banned. Everyone was warned umpteen bloody times. There is no excuse to say "I didn't know" unless you lapped up a diet of press releases.

Like a pp, I cannot talk about what lockdown did to me. But I can and I will blame those who are to blame. Not just governments, but people who not only swallowed the lies but demonised those of us who didn't believe it was as bad as they said. And masked their kids.

I don't believe in karma but I wish I did.

@MarshaBradyo

"For that we all had to change behaviour, eg by using messaging that got compliance."

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OK so basically scaring the shit of of everyone that they're at a real risk of dying- but how does the Government now go about un scaring people.

This is a conspiracy theorists dream, I mean they will convince some people that Covid is actually not that risky after all the so called "it's just like a cold" view. But the conspiracy theorists will leap on this with a "see we told you so and now you've all been injected with something that will turn you into [lizards / worker drones / infertile] etc.

Or they will fail to convince people that it is no longer a risk. At which point the conspiracy theory is that the vulnerable and elderly are being sacrificed in the name of evil Tories / big business/ vaccine manufacturers etc.

This is not boding well for societal cohesion over the next 5 to 8 years.