Page 2 | So confused about numbers

Fedupsotired · 2022-01-19T06:53:52+00:00

How are they saying numbers are going down when in schools they are going absolutely mad! We're having a day on day increase. Are people just not reporting now?

MargaretThursday · 19/01/2022 07:19

One thing to remember is they don't count reinfections.
I know four famines currently who have at least two family members down with the second infection. They won't be counted in the case numbers.

Fridafever · 19/01/2022 07:20

The government are most definitely spinning the numbers as being better than they really are

I would include this under the dishonest umbrella!

Whatelsecouldibecalled · 19/01/2022 07:20

I d got three of four pupils from each class (5 a day) with confirmed cases. My child's nursery have just said they have tea before critical point and may only take vulnerable and key worker children. This is also the case with three of my colleagues. It's not going down here

SmallElephant · 19/01/2022 07:20

Not many cases in my DC's school. OP what region are you in?

eurochick · 19/01/2022 07:20

Regional variations - what's hard to understand about that? Where I am numbers were crazy a few weeks ago. Now I'm not hearing of any new cases locally in the past week or so.

LAlady · 19/01/2022 07:22

Covid staff absences a big problem in my school - staff are already exhausted covering and we are only third week in. (I sometimes think I'm living in a parallel world !)

Postchristmasflab · 19/01/2022 07:24

There is zero virus in my DCs primary at the minute, it spread like wildfire last September though and 92% of adults are double vaccinated. So fingers crossed it’s run it course in my local area.

SpookyScarySkeletons · 19/01/2022 07:26

I have seen a lot more cases amongst people I know recently.

But they aren't PCR testing are they? And a huge amount of LFTs go unreported.

Donald Trump was on to something when he said they only had an increase in cases because they were testing more people!

WhatsWrongWithMyUsername · 19/01/2022 07:26

There were still more than 90,000 cases reported yesterday, that would have been unimaginable a couple of months ago.

Go over to the stats and data thread, that was talking about the data by age group, I think it was going up in primary age group again.

Queenoftheashes · 19/01/2022 07:27

But cases are still extremely high are they not? Just not as high as December. But still higher than last year when we locked down. So cases falling doesn’t mean there aren’t still lots of cases…

Blubells · 19/01/2022 07:28

What are you 'confused' about, op?

That numbers vary by region? That some schools have lots of cases while others have few or none? What's do confusing about that?

More importantly, cases are much less relevant than hospitalisations!

shouldistop · 19/01/2022 07:31

@MargaretThursday

One thing to remember is they don't count reinfections. I know four famines currently who have at least two family members down with the second infection. They won't be counted in the case numbers.

Is that actually true?

Quartz2208 · 19/01/2022 07:35

Queenoftheashes has a very good point - in the last 7 days roughly 1% of the population has tested postive. 670k. That is actually a very high number. It is a drop from 1.1 million peak but it is still an awful lot.

DS school when insane when there were 30k a case (so 3 times less) and it wasnt the only primary school in the area either.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 19/01/2022 07:44

The numbers are still very high, but a they were very much higher onkyma few days ago, and the trend is downwards.

I guess OP has come across some London-centric reporting - it arrivedin the capital first, and is dropping there first. But it's rippled out from there and so only to be expected that in some places it's still rising.

SellFridges · 19/01/2022 07:49

Of course the numbers can be correct even if you personally are noting more cases around you. That’s how population level statistics work and why we work on data, not anecdote.

Our primary has around 1/3 of kids off this week. They’ll all be back next week (and many could have been back earlier based on severity of symptoms). But you can bet your house that another school a few miles away will have a 1/3 of kids off.

rrhuth · 19/01/2022 07:51

@Fridafever

The government are most definitely spinning the numbers as being better than they really are

I would include this under the dishonest umbrella!

Ah, I see spin as just being presentation of the numbers themselves, rather than a manipulation of the numbers.

I am very concerned by the continued decision to discount reinfections - this seems to be getting towards dishonesty, as I can see no senisble reason for it now that there are so many and we know that Delta infection does not prevent Omicron infection.

Iggly · 19/01/2022 07:52

It’s also going mad here too. The change to PCR testing has confused matters. Schools are also not obliged to tell parents of numbers.

GoodnightGrandma · 19/01/2022 07:53

Nit reporting positive LFT’s I’d say.

shouldistop · 19/01/2022 07:54

@Iggly

It’s also going mad here too. The change to PCR testing has confused matters. Schools are also not obliged to tell parents of numbers.

Schools aren't but don't most classes have parents WhatsApp groups and inform each other? That's certainly what happens here. Even for chicken pox recently.

CarrieBlue · 19/01/2022 07:56

I’m amazed how pp know there are no cases in ‘their’ schools - I’m a teacher and I’ve no idea how many cases there are in the school I work at. I wasn’t even told a class had been sent home last week. Amazing that parents have more idea what is really happening in schools than the staff who work there. And always the parents who have form for minimising the impact of covid generally. Interesting.

MarshmallowFondant · 19/01/2022 07:57

Well in the schools MY kids go to, and other local schools, it was "going mad" before Christmas and I was getting constant pings of emails telling me there was another positive case in my child's year group.

Since the kids went back 2 weeks ago, I have had just one email.

ShakespearesSisters · 19/01/2022 07:58

Going bonkers in our primary. 25% absence at the moment, cases in every class DD2 has it, DD1, DH and myself escaped so far. However, we have had very few cases until now so I suppose it was going to get us all eventually. Easier to catch now as contacts just doing ltf rather than isolating like before.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 19/01/2022 08:18

@CarrieBlue

I’m amazed how pp know there are no cases in ‘their’ schools - I’m a teacher and I’ve no idea how many cases there are in the school I work at. I wasn’t even told a class had been sent home last week. Amazing that parents have more idea what is really happening in schools than the staff who work there. And always the parents who have form for minimising the impact of covid generally. Interesting.

Not really anything to be amazed by when there are class WhatsApp groups...

shouldistop · 19/01/2022 08:22

@CarrieBlue

I’m amazed how pp know there are no cases in ‘their’ schools - I’m a teacher and I’ve no idea how many cases there are in the school I work at. I wasn’t even told a class had been sent home last week. Amazing that parents have more idea what is really happening in schools than the staff who work there. And always the parents who have form for minimising the impact of covid generally. Interesting.

My child goes to a very small school, in a village, 2 of my friends teach at the school, we all have class WhatsApp's.

Amazing that pp seem to know what happens in other peoples schools, more than the people who have children at that school - interesting.

Blubells · 19/01/2022 08:24

Amazing that parents have more idea what is really happening in schools than the staff who work there.

That's not really surprising at all given that parents share information via large WhatsApp groups...