Self Isolation going to be scrapped

[Overthebow]

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-self-isolation-law-set-be-scrapped-telegraph-2022-01-16/

So that’s it then, the pandemic really is going to end in the UK in a couple of months time. I’ve never been so happy to read a news article!

@placemats

I will continue to wear a mask and social distance and there is NOTHING you can do to stop me doing this.

Why do you think people will try to stop you?

Is wearing a mask normal?

No it isn't.

And you cannot stop me from doing it unless the government bring in a law that all mask wearing is to stop.

This could of course happen.

I’ve never been so happy to read a news article! what a vile comment. Have you considered the vulnerable dying or being seriously unwell. Then being treatment by covid positive staff or on the bus or in a supermarket full of people who are definitely positive. What about your neighbour who has a stroke or an RTA and can’t get an ambulance or an ICU bed in time.
That all fair game for life as normal? @Overthebow

*Them

@placemats

Is wearing a mask normal?

No it isn't.

And you cannot stop me from doing it unless the government bring in a law that all mask wearing is to stop.

This could of course happen.

I think you’ll be ok

There might be some others who do the same

Why on earth would anyone try to stop you wearing a mask, much less make a law against it?

@Theunamedcat
I had covid Christmas it wasn't mild for me at all I could barely remember my name if I had got behind the wheel of the car to go to work I would have killed people myself included. I'm triple jabbed. You lot are fucking talking bollocks saying its just a sniffle

Totally agree with this. My whole household currently isolating) - me, DH, DS22, DS19. We are ALL triple jabbed and all fit and healthy. It’s not been mild for any of us, we’ve all been extremely unwell and still are.

Those of you idiots saying “oh it’s just a cold, we need to get on”, need to crawl back under the rock you came out of!

[quote Chessie678]@Sort0f
As I say, I’ve no doubt it’s a real condition that can cause organ damage. I just don’t think the ONS self-reported data which has no control group proves much about prevalence of long covid.

It seems likely that vaccination will significantly decrease the prevalence of long covid going forwards though I haven’t seen anything concrete on that.[/quote]
Yes, exactly.

And honestly, people who are very concerned about long covid would do well to reflect that obviously weak claims about the prevalence aren't going to help. Because long covid is a thing, and we do need to think about how it needs to be handled going forward. But for that we will need better data than daft claims about 1.3 million people self reporting, with no control group, and to include people who still have a cough after 29 days. Anyone who doesn't want to hear it and is minded to pay no attention to the possibility of long covid will have ample ammunition from the ONS stats if they read them properly.

[quote LadyPenelope68]@Theunamedcat
I had covid Christmas it wasn't mild for me at all I could barely remember my name if I had got behind the wheel of the car to go to work I would have killed people myself included. I'm triple jabbed. You lot are fucking talking bollocks saying its just a sniffle

Totally agree with this. My whole household currently isolating) - me, DH, DS22, DS19. We are ALL triple jabbed and all fit and healthy. It’s not been mild for any of us, we’ve all been extremely unwell and still are.

Those of you idiots saying “oh it’s just a cold, we need to get on”, need to crawl back under the rock you came out of![/quote]
This.

And my cousin was extremely ill with Covid and she still has long term issues with it.

We are going on holiday together because she wants to see her relatives.

Her Covid experience was life changing for her.

Do people who merrily use the word endemic even vaguely know what it means?? Certain elements have done a brilliant job on spinning that word.

eg 'racism is endemic in the UK'. That doesn't sound a good thing now, does it? It doesn't sound like something we shouldn't take measures to tackle either.

But the doctor doesn't simply diagnose them based purely on what they say.

Ooooh, medical sociology here!

Yes, they do. The biomedical model has evolved. A patient's story is seen as a very important part of diagnosis. The social model is the accepted way forward in patient care.

[quote LadyPenelope68]@Theunamedcat
I had covid Christmas it wasn't mild for me at all I could barely remember my name if I had got behind the wheel of the car to go to work I would have killed people myself included. I'm triple jabbed. You lot are fucking talking bollocks saying its just a sniffle

Totally agree with this. My whole household currently isolating) - me, DH, DS22, DS19. We are ALL triple jabbed and all fit and healthy. It’s not been mild for any of us, we’ve all been extremely unwell and still are.

Those of you idiots saying “oh it’s just a cold, we need to get on”, need to crawl back under the rock you came out of![/quote]
The vast majority of the people who have caught this varient in the UK have had a cold.
Doesn’t matter what names you sling or what insults. That is a fact.
You and your family have been unlucky but are in the huge minority.
Don’t be selfish and restrict everyone’s (the majority’s) lives for the sake of yourselves.

Yes, they do.

No they don't.

If I 'self report' to the doctor that I have cancer he doesn't send me off for chemo or a mastectomy without checking that, now does he?

Obviously a patients reporting of symptoms is part of the process, but as part of a much wider picture informed by a doctors medical expertise.

@placemats

Is wearing a mask normal?

No it isn't.

And you cannot stop me from doing it unless the government bring in a law that all mask wearing is to stop.

This could of course happen.

What ARE you talking about? You have been free to wear a mask or whatever you want over your face since you were 18 and will be able to do so until the day you die if you so wish. That’s the beauty of living in a ‘free’ (or at least moderately free) society. Which thank god we still live in, although I suspect many on this thread and the covid board would be very happy with if that were to change.

I think it's probably the right thing to do in the big picture.

There are die-hard people out there who won't get any vaccination and for them exposure to this mild variant might offer protection against more harmful future variants and generally help with overall herd immunity, limiting serious illness and loss of life whilst going going back to some sort of normality.

There will of course still be some hospitalisations and deaths, as with any illness, but preventing these altogether was never going to be possible.

The medical understanding of mild disease is that which does not require hospitalisation.

People being ill in bed for a few weeks, while tough on them, is not a concern on a national level.

@GrendelsGrandma

I can't believe that rancid burp of a man would put more lives at risk to save his own skin.

Everyone wants the pandemic to be over. Declaring it over won't make it over. You need to be sure hospitals won't be overloaded and vulnerable people are protected.

This. This is a man with literally no conscience coming up with a bone to throw in the hope we won't see through it.

How much lower can the man get?

I think the WHO are still recommending 10 day isolation? If they can present medical evidence for scrutiny and the bulk of scientific opinion is behind them I think it’s fine.
Of course people being ill in large numbers is a concern at a national level

Of course people being ill in large numbers is a concern at a national level

That depends on how many, how ill and how long out of action.

Being past the peak, with isolation periods shortening, it's becoming less and less of an issue.

*At the moment people have to isolate BUT how do we know they are anyway? No one is policing that. And PCRs are no longer being used, just self-administered LF tests.

So IMO the law is just catching up with current behaviour.*

Exactly. People are assessing their own risks.

It is true but not for the reasons portrayed. The simple fact is that Boris doesn't have a choice. The 2 years were set in the original legislation, in fact at the time I remember comments on here that 2 years was excessive. There is absolutely no chance that the commons will vote to extend the legislation so the laws end. It isn't a decision to lift it.

@Wtfdoipick

It is true but not for the reasons portrayed. The simple fact is that Boris doesn't have a choice. The 2 years were set in the original legislation, in fact at the time I remember comments on here that 2 years was excessive. There is absolutely no chance that the commons will vote to extend the legislation so the laws end. It isn't a decision to lift it.

I can’t remember the original timeframe but this is a good point

SeenYourArse Mon 17-Jan-22 10:13:24
"Anyone read the other thread about people enjoying dramatising and prolonging everything about Covid?? Plenty of those people on this thread as usual I see"

Yes I read that thread. People were described as "gleefully" awaiting the news of a more serious variant and "frothing at the mouth" in anticipation of a further lockdown. I have never met anyone like that either at work or in my social group. The whole thread was so vitriolic.

The masses who are stalwart working class Tory voters do not give a fuck about the parties. They think it’s hilarious and don’t blame him. They will vote Tory next time regardless.

Frankly, BJ could shag their gran and steal her money and they’d still vote Tory. He’s stealing their money, their health and their children’s schooling now and they vote for him.

Any ills going on in the country (labour shortages, runaway inflation, hideous NHS waiting lists) are all the fault of Covid and foreigners/illegal immigrants taking home 3k a month in benefits. Everyone knows that.

That is a very good point. The Act gained Royal Assent 25/3/2020 so assume the clock started ticking from there. Does the sunset clause apply to the whole Act though, or just parts of it?