Self Isolation going to be scrapped

[Overthebow]

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-self-isolation-law-set-be-scrapped-telegraph-2022-01-16/

So that’s it then, the pandemic really is going to end in the UK in a couple of months time. I’ve never been so happy to read a news article!

@AllThePogs

Okay so the pandemic is legally over. I had no idea pandemics obeyed laws.

The virus doesn’t but we do.

So yes the restrictions will end whether some think they should stay or not.

@Pixxie7

Self isolation may be finishing but the pandemic isn’t, there are still lots of countries who haven’t hardly started vaccinating people and until they do the pandemic will continue. The PM is desperate at the moment so will do and say anything to put them in a good light.

I'm 100% supportive of vaccination, but thinking that worldwide vaccination will somehow cause Covid to fade away is a pipe dream.

@MarshaBradyo 1,834 people died of covid in the last 7 days. Good to know its all over then.

@Iggly

I’m worried that this government doesn’t have a proper exit plan. They’re only caring about votes. We are turning into Brazil.

If the policy was so awful, why do you think it will lead to the Government becoming more popular and getting more votes? This post seems to indicate a contempt
for the average person.

@treeflowercat it is not all or nothing. Covid isn't going anywhere, everyone knows that. Thinking this means we just pretend it does not exist is fucking idiotic.

[quote treeflowercat]@Iggly

I’m worried that this government doesn’t have a proper exit plan. They’re only caring about votes. We are turning into Brazil.

If the policy was so awful, why do you think it will lead to the Government becoming more popular and getting more votes? This post seems to indicate a contempt
for the average person.[/quote]
Not everyone votes the same way, I get that. But they’re going for policies which will appease those who think the pandemic should be over, those who think that we’ve done enough, those who think that covid only impacts on the vulnerable. Plenty of noises in the likes of the daily mail and sun which support lifting measures.

Personally I think just wait a few weeks!

[quote AllThePogs]@MarshaBradyo 1,834 people died of covid in the last 7 days. Good to know its all over then.[/quote]
This is in the Spring, so the numbers will be different.

It doesn’t matter what people post it won’t change the Act coming to an end.

I doubt the support will be there to vote on it continuing but we’ll see.

@LostFrog

I’m on the fence. I am on day 3 now and feel ok. If this was any other cold this is the point at which I would be thinking of going for a walk in the fresh air to clear my head and start to feel better, as it is I can’t even take the dog for a walk round the block and my 83 yo mum is fetching my shopping. I don’t think isolation is the answer any more.

This

Extraordinary disruption for people who are not particularly ill

@blackcurrantjam

Extraordinary disruption for people who are not particularly ill

That was always the case though.

Public health measures were needed to protect more than the individual.

[quote AllThePogs]@treeflowercat it is not all or nothing. Covid isn't going anywhere, everyone knows that. Thinking this means we just pretend it does not exist is fucking idiotic.[/quote]
I agree. My point was specifically related to the fact it was felt it would gain votes. I don't think we should rush unduly to relax things from where they are now.

@SeenYourArse

I’m curious, those saying no it shouldn’t end and we should all wear masks and distance and work from home and not socialise or have fun with friends (except via Zoom🙄) etc… how long for exactly do you want this?? Forever? Literally you would like this to be as good as it gets ever? Because if two years and the current situation isn’t enough for you when will be? I’f the answer is ‘when Covid is gone’ then that will be forever won’t it in truth?

Where on this thread have those things been said?

[quote AllThePogs]@treeflowercat it is not all or nothing. Covid isn't going anywhere, everyone knows that. Thinking this means we just pretend it does not exist is fucking idiotic.[/quote]
@AllThePogs - no one is saying we should pretend Covid doesn’t exist, its about changing the way we deal with it so that it is sustainable for the longer term.

Will this also mean if you're unwell with covid 19, most people are your sickness will be held against you ?

Yes your sickness will be held against you. So people will go to work with confirmed covid.

Self isolation ending is a passive event not a planned event. It isn't being done to gain votes or to distract from other things (though the newspaper articles are definitely to distract) the simple fact is the legislation was written with an end date and Boris would not be able to get support to renew it. He can claim its this wonderful thing he's doing and that March is the right time but if he does he's just being his usual lying self.

Personally I'll judge masks and everything else at the time, if levels are high I'll wear them, if I feel off colour I'll take extra precautions, not mix with people but I won't be sorry to see the back of the option to fine people.

Is it true that we are able to end self-isolation as a result of no longer being a member of the EU?

Another Brexit bonus.

The EU has nothing to do with it.

@AllThePogs

The EU has nothing to do with it.

The EU has everything to do with it. We would not have been able to have a vaccine roll out if we had been in the EU and since when we were in the EU all our laws were made in Brussels we would not have been able to end isolation because the Prime Minister is to weak and wobbly to keep the legislation in place.

@AllThePogs

Yes your sickness will be held against you. So people will go to work with confirmed covid.

Do you think so?

I would imagine more likely that if you are well enough to work / carry on with your life you won’t test so you simply won’t know. LFTs will cost money, we won’t be encouraged to take them left right and centre and PCRs will probably still be available but on a smaller scale (you won’t necessarily need one because you have a new cough).

I think it is likely that the majority of people who will know they have Covid will either be 1) people who are actually ill and either need proof to take time off work or are worried they may need medical attention or 2) people who are still taking more precautions, perhaps CEV or live with CEV, and these people will probably isolate even if they don’t legally have to.

@jgw1 Every country in the EU has different covid restrictions and different vaccination protocols. If the EU dictated this, every country would be different.

@thewhatsit who is your employer?
Nearly everyone I know is employed somewhere where there are strict sickness procedures. So many days off sick or so many episodes of sickness lead to a verbal warning, Then a written warning, and ultimately dismissal. Everywhere I have ever worked people come into work ill. People are only off if they really cant work. But simply having a temperature and a cough is not enough to take time off work ill.

And why would ecv people stay at home and isolate? There is no shielding programme so they cant.

The EU has everything to do with it. We would not have been able to have a vaccine roll out if we had been in the EU and since when we were in the EU all our laws were made in Brussels we would not have been able to end isolation because the Prime Minister is to weak and wobbly to keep the legislation in place

Utter bullshit 😂 fact check

All of our laws were never made in Brussels.

No wonder people voted Brexit if they believed such cock.

[quote AllThePogs]@thewhatsit who is your employer?
Nearly everyone I know is employed somewhere where there are strict sickness procedures. So many days off sick or so many episodes of sickness lead to a verbal warning, Then a written warning, and ultimately dismissal. Everywhere I have ever worked people come into work ill. People are only off if they really cant work. But simply having a temperature and a cough is not enough to take time off work ill.

And why would ecv people stay at home and isolate? There is no shielding programme so they cant.[/quote]
Yes this is my point though. If you are genuinely too sick to work (which will be the minority of Covid cases) you may well test. You are then unlikely to go into work because you were ill enough to warrant a test - this being a post free lateral flow world and a world where you are not obligated to get a PCR just because you have a bit of a cough.

If you are well enough to come into work (and that would mean general coughs / colds / feeling generally under the weather) you just won’t test will you? Why on earth would you? Testing will be as optional and self isolation will be.

I do also believe there will be a fairly significant proportion of people who will take extra precautions though just as there is now. There are plenty of people on MN who are still living quasi lockdown lives and I believe those people are unlikely to bother to test and then carry on with their lives.

It's inevitable but timing isn't certain yet. My money is on 31st March - we have a sweepstake at work. We've stopped all lateral flow testing of this week