'PTSD' from the past 2 years?

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PTSD may be an exaggerated description of what I am identifying but reading how angry people are regarding the No.10 drinks party, I feel we're collectively having a moment of reflection.

We're now all thinking about what we were doing in May 2020 and the passage of time since, we have actually come really far but this whole situation I think had made a lot of us begin processing the last two years would you agree?

I do feel as though I've been through something quite traumatic, and I had lockdown super-easy but struggled with anxiety triggered by the pandemic so I followed the rules and then some.

On reflection I feel I've done well - WE'VE done well as a society - to have come this far and kept moving forward in our lives in difficult circumstances.

But I get a heavy feeling when I think back, it's almost overwhelming and I can't seem to go there, its like a mental block. I'm in a good place aside from the pandemic so I'm not sure why I'm struggling to process it!

Reading back on some of the rules, before they came in, I'd never have believed they'd happen(parks locked up away from the kids for one ), at the time we realised it all seemed far fetched and now thinking back, I can't believe we were manipulated into the extreme behaviour and had so much taken away from us!

I realise this may be a bit of a self indulgence post! But I am interested to hear if other people are feeling similar during this collective reflection!?

[quote Flyonawalk]@Lilifer I know what you mean!

@TheChip That is so true - people are not allowed to question why they can’t question! It is disturbing.[/quote]
I would like to raise this with MNHQ. Do you know what day this thread was deleted by any chance?

Mumsnet are absolutely right to censor misinformation.

And what is appalling are the same set of posters descending on threads like this - who are very happy to weaponise children’s mental health in order to get their message across - which is all about personal freedom/personal risk/themselves as an individual without giving a toss about the many, many millions of lives lost worldwide.

It’s the same set you see ‘cheese in coffee’, ‘anti dementor’ - they are the epitome of hypocrisy.

And I suspect many of them are circulating a such crap as possible via social media, just toning it down a bit for Mumsnet.

The OP started with a great thread, inviting people to share experiences. And then as soon as someone shares an experience ‘they don’t like’ they come on with the spiteful/ableist language and swearing - trying to exclude people off the thread.

@Lilifer Yes, today, about 30-40 minutes ago. So about 8.30 this morning or close to. Thank you.

weaponise children’s mental health

Honestly this is ridiculous and keeps being spouted by some. The thread didn’t go how you wanted it because you dismissed people’s stories.

@BigMoan I think the issue is that ‘misinformation’ is a fluid term and one open to manipulation.

For one person, reporting covid deaths and damage is necessary information. To another is it scaremongering and manipulating. Similarly, reporting vaccine damage is either reporting necessary information or scaremongering. We don’t all have the same views or priorities.

@Flyonawalk @Lilifer because misinformation and fake news are online harms. Mumsnet have a duty to call it out.

[quote Flyonawalk]@Lilifer Yes, today, about 30-40 minutes ago. So about 8.30 this morning or close to. Thank you.[/quote]
Thanks I'll send them a message about this. This is not the first time they've deleted threads that were worthy of debate, it's not on and what's their problem allowing discussion of news??

[quote BigMoan]**@Flyonawalk* @Lilifer* because misinformation and fake news are online harms. Mumsnet have a duty to call it out.[/quote]

How is reporting a High court judgement outcome spreading misinformation? Where is the misinformation there? The judge made a decision and the decision was reported. That is factual.

@Flyonawalk yes - but there are ALSO posts that tip the scale. Say if I went round persuading people the vaccine is 100% safe, no one is at risk from vaccines - and I influenced a person who has a medical condition to take it who shouldn’t - by linking to some unverified science/video that has been ‘made up’ by an extreme political group - if that person went against doctors advice because of this, and died - is that ok?

[quote BigMoan]@Flyonawalk yes - but there are ALSO posts that tip the scale. Say if I went round persuading people the vaccine is 100% safe, no one is at risk from vaccines - and I influenced a person who has a medical condition to take it who shouldn’t - by linking to some unverified science/video that has been ‘made up’ by an extreme political group - if that person went against doctors advice because of this, and died - is that ok?[/quote]
But that is not the type of post the @Flyonawalk referred to is it?

@Lilifer @Flyonawalk

Which news? Is it widely reported? I’m not sure what you are referring to?

@BigMoan I do not know how to link, sorry, but if you look up Justice Jonathan Swift, mother EF, Beverley Turner, you should find reference to the case. It went through the high court on 13 January I think.

@Flyonawalk

Because it’s unverified from what I can read. Just the same as if I said there is absolutely no risk to young men - and tried to link something that hadn’t verified and could be dangerous/misinterpreted. I shouldnt be allowed to do that because it could harm someone.

Interesting what some posters ignore and what they focus on. The use of weaponising is particularly tasteless in the context of this thread.

So many of these stories are horrific and my heart goes out to everyone and what they have been through the last two years.

@BigMoan The case was about releasing data, and the woman asking for release of data lost the case. She wanted ‘honest disclosure of figures so that parents can make an informed decision’. The judge said No.

None of this is in doubt. Of course there would be different interpretations of figures. I am concerned that a judge declined to make data publicly available.

@Imabouttoexplode

Ptsd? No, absolutely not. I've had ptsd previously from someone choking to death right in front of me (not just someone but i still cant bring myself to say who) and it was horrendous. Reflecting back over the pandemic and acknowledging that it's been tough for a lot of people is not the same as ptsd.

To be fair that is primarily because that's your own individual experience. It doesn't mean that someone else couldn't have had something like PTSD during the pandemic. I can see from your perspective that seems worse but it is your perspective.

@Flyonawalk

Probably because the anti vaxx individualists/extreme right wingers/me first/survival of the fittest brigade would use it to influence vulnerable people.

I note the link above to conservative woman - it’s all reformUK crap and far right think tanks.

@BigMoan on a thread where people have shared their personal experiences of how the lockdowns have impacted them, your behavour has actually been extremely crass.

Also from ‘Concervative Woman’:

IS Reform UK the last hope for democratic change in the United Kingdom? Faced with an out-of-control regime, starting fires it then can be seen to put out and planning further ram-raids on freedom and democracy, this was the question on many delegates’ minds in Manchester on Sunday. At the party’s first conference, the mood was one of earnest encouragement, the audience almost willing each speaker to say the magic words that might summon up a new, much-needed opposition.

@nojudgementhere

@nojudgementhere thank you for the link. I share your concerns that the public are not allowed to see information which concerns all our health.

@MaxNormal

Report me then?

I also think there has been some pretty crass behaviour here.

@Flyonawalk

Great - a link from a thinktank that supports reformUK and are probably more than happy to let the bodies pile high.

I think there are posters here who would like the NHS run with a reformUK mentality.

I had Covid (Delta) last July, was put on a ventilator (induced coma) for 2 weeks, during which time I'd had a stroke. When I woke up, I didn't know where I was, couldn't move anything at all, couldn't speak or swallow - all that lasted about another week, then I began to make a few small improvements. No visitors were allowed in the hospital, which was 50 miles away from my home town. I had hallucinations, flashbacks. I was in for 6 weeks, then had Physiotherapy at home for 6 weeks. I'm about 90% back to how I used to be, and it's been a real struggle to get here. I'm awaiting mental health counselling (6 weeks waiting list).

@BigMoan - I get your point and I'm not a fan girl for Conservative Women in anyway or any of the other causes they are talking about. However, the journalist looks reputable with 30 years experience and I linked to the article as it shows that the information about the courtcase is true - something which you seemed to be failing to acknowledge?