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People really have had enough haven’t they?

324 replies

DontWantTheRivalry · 11/01/2022 10:13

I was in my local newsagent this morning and it was me, two women behind the counter and 7 other shoppers.

5 of us were quite huddled together whilst waiting to pay, so we were very close to the staff members behind the till too, and the other two people were still shopping.

Of the ten of us in the shop, which is quite a small newsagents I was the only one wearing a mask and nobody was even bothered that nobody else was. I mean, the shop assistants aren’t going to make an issue of it seeing as they don’t wear masks either.

I felt like such an idiot as I stood there wearing one.

I’m not threatened by Covid, I would love for things to go back to being mask-free, I only wear one because guidance says to rather than because I want to, but I was just so surprised that nobody else was wearing one too.

I felt so uncomfortable wearing one and I think if my hands weren’t full of food and things I probably would have taken mine off because I just felt silly.

It really has made me think that people have just had enough haven’t they?

OP posts:
TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2022 14:03

So if our services became overwhelmed and someone got acute appendicitis and needed urgent surgery but there was no ambulances, beds or surgeons available at all then they would be OK with that?

I suspect it's a risk they'd be willing to take.

Also it's not like these services were foolproof before covid. My FIL died of a heart attack because the ambulance didn't make it in time back in 2017.

Flaxmeadow · 11/01/2022 14:05

We should all invite the virus round for a cup of tea and piece of cake, sit it down and explain to it politely that we've all had enough now, so could it please stop multiplying and mutating. Thanks

LadyCleathStuart · 11/01/2022 14:05

@Flaxmeadow

But if they did, that wouldn't be enough to stop Covid would it... So what do you want

Nothing will stop covid apart from full on measures, eg China/east.

Ive already said, for people to follow guidance/rules on public health but large nunbers of people won't because 'cant be arsed' or 'this is rediculus now' etc

Nothing will stop covid. No measures will stop it now it is all over the world.

The Spanish flu pandemic lasted a few years then it became endemic, it is still out there, it could still kill you, but we vaccinate people and get on with our lives. Same with swine flu and the rest.

And yes I know Covid isn't the flu but neither is it any worse than any other virus from previous pandemics so I don't see why we won't just move on and live with it.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2022 14:09

@Flaxmeadow

We should all invite the virus round for a cup of tea and piece of cake, sit it down and explain to it politely that we've all had enough now, so could it please stop multiplying and mutating. Thanks
Plan b will end and the virus will be here but it will feel different

Changes to other areas will likely happen - testing / isolation etc

I’ve read a fair few posts re ‘you didn’t lockdown for the vulnerable but for the health service’. So when that threat passes, then we’ll see a big change in approach.

Londontown12 · 11/01/2022 14:09

I must be the minority!! I am at home isolating and I’ve just ordered n95 ffp3 masks 😷 my hubbi was very ill and we are both tripled vaxxed me not so bad but it’s not just a cold !

ilovesooty · 11/01/2022 14:09

[quote Whatayear81]@x2boys

How come you chose not to wear a mask?[/quote]
Why on earth are you asking, given your admission that you don't even wear yours properly?

VikingOnTheFridge · 11/01/2022 14:11

@Flaxmeadow

We should all invite the virus round for a cup of tea and piece of cake, sit it down and explain to it politely that we've all had enough now, so could it please stop multiplying and mutating. Thanks
It would make about as much difference to the ongoing situation as people responding to points about public attitudes to restrictions with 'the virus doesn't care' do.
treeflowercat · 11/01/2022 14:14

@Flaxmeadow

So if our services became overwhelmed and someone got acute appendicitis and needed urgent surgery but there was no ambulances, beds or surgeons available at all then they would be OK with that?

I think the crisis in the NHS is one that merits some restrictions just at the moment, and though fed up, I'm grudgingly accepting.

However, there seem to be a group who will never be satisfied, who are using the current problems in the NHS as their currently preferred tool for arguing for continuing interventions and restrictions, but who will revert to something else when that subsides.

People sense the dementor-like negativity of those types, and know they'll
never be satisfied, and so react against it.

duckme · 11/01/2022 14:14

Oh yes, I'm done. After what was going on at number ten last May whilst we were kept apart from our relative who ended up dying alone, I'm more than bloody done.

Blubells · 11/01/2022 14:16

Fit and healthy, active people who are being wiped off their feet for weeks

That's certainly not the experience of most people HmmHmm

Thefaceofboe · 11/01/2022 14:23

I was walking from the co-op to the pharmacy which is a 30 second walk and didn’t bother to take my mask off, and someone shouted wanker at me from a van. It’s getting to the point here where wearing a mask is unusual

Blubells · 11/01/2022 14:24

The virus doesn’t care if you’ve “had enough"

Well I don't care that the virus doesn't care!!

Most people have come to the conclusion that the virus is not a great threat to them, whatever the virus may 'think' or 'care about'!

Pootle40 · 11/01/2022 14:25

I'm in Scotland. I had ditched wearing the mask then restarted...not sure why....wasn't fear of Covid that's for sure. Said to my husband today that I'm ditching again but for good this time. Dirty rag in my pocket.

Flaxmeadow · 11/01/2022 14:30

People sense the dementor-like negativity of those types, and know they'll never be satisfied, and so react against it.

It isn't negativity or 'dementor'

Negativity is burying your head in the sand as a reaction to fear. A state of being in denial and 'lets jolly along and everything is fine'. Like when people said 'its just the flu', it isn't.
'It isnt airborne', it is.
'Alpha will be the last variant' it wasn't.
'It will mutate to become milder', it didn't. Delta proved that by being even more virulent and more transmissable than before.

This has always been the problem on here with this 'dementor' name calling crap. A refusal to let others discuss how serious the situation is, without being shouted down

ElliotGoss · 11/01/2022 14:30

@JessicaKenny2018

We are in Norfolk and everyone is wearing masks here still
We are a compliant people.
VikingOnTheFridge · 11/01/2022 14:30

@Thefaceofboe

I was walking from the co-op to the pharmacy which is a 30 second walk and didn’t bother to take my mask off, and someone shouted wanker at me from a van. It’s getting to the point here where wearing a mask is unusual
Well that's completely dickheaded. Every bit as bad as self appointed covid police harassing people about their PTSD. You have every right to wear a mask outside if it's convenient or desirable to you and it's nobody else's business.
HailAdrian · 11/01/2022 14:33

Yeah I went for a few drinks yesterday and it felt ridiculous putting a mask on to go in a shop and not for all the pubs we went in.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 11/01/2022 14:33

Yes I've got covid and I'm fucking sick of it. The testing and isolating rules make no sense. I'm a teacher and it's been completely shitty from the word go. Fuck off covid.

MarshaBradyo · 11/01/2022 14:34

@Flaxmeadow

People sense the dementor-like negativity of those types, and know they'll never be satisfied, and so react against it.

It isn't negativity or 'dementor'

Negativity is burying your head in the sand as a reaction to fear. A state of being in denial and 'lets jolly along and everything is fine'. Like when people said 'its just the flu', it isn't.
'It isnt airborne', it is.
'Alpha will be the last variant' it wasn't.
'It will mutate to become milder', it didn't. Delta proved that by being even more virulent and more transmissable than before.

This has always been the problem on here with this 'dementor' name calling crap. A refusal to let others discuss how serious the situation is, without being shouted down

I’m not fearful so no that doesn’t apply.

But also SAGE have been very off with numbers for omicron, so we’re seeing the opposite right now. Talk of it being worse than it is.

HailAdrian · 11/01/2022 14:34

@Blubells

The virus doesn’t care if you’ve “had enough"

Well I don't care that the virus doesn't care!!

Most people have come to the conclusion that the virus is not a great threat to them, whatever the virus may 'think' or 'care about'!

Won't somebody please think of the virus!!
ErinTingey · 11/01/2022 14:34

@Whatayear81

I half heartedly wear them just to avoid drawing attention to myself. But really, most of the time I have it below my nose
If you don't want to wear one, don't wear one! The chin wearers are far more annoying than those who choose not to wear one.
Dghgcotcitc · 11/01/2022 14:36

There is def an interesting physiology going on which is making the pro lockdown crowd very upset!

Basically at the start of this there were tv scenes of people gasping for breath in Italy and in the U.K. the only people with diagnosised covid were in hospital as only those were tested. Yes people knew people who thought they had it but those people tended to have been Ill you knew no one who had had it mildly because those cases were not diagnosed. This created significant fear of an illness people thought was a) very serious and b) you were def going to catch if you went outside the house.

In time those perspectives have changed, lots of people know someone who genuinely didn’t get Ill! I was on a video conference meeting last January with three people all who had covid and all who were working away it was hard to square that with the “this is way more serious than flu” mantra if the early pandemic. Also people have started to live their lives and realise you don’t automatically get covid when you do so. I was someone who got my life back quick smart after lockdown one and I remember the shock on friends faces when I said yes I have been to pubs, restaurants etc they honestly seemed to think they would drop down dead if they ever tried and yet here I am well over a year later and still not had covid. Lots of people have done the same over a time abs realised the same, things stopped feeling risky when you tried something and didn’t automatically die after doing it.

And all of This was happening before but was accelerated post vaccination. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle now, people have seen mild covid, they know they can go put and not automatically catch it, they are just not as scared and that change has made a big difference.

So no covid “doesn’t care if your bored” but lots of people no longer care what covid thinks! They are not scared of it like they were last March, abs that is a trend that is hard to reverse.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 11/01/2022 14:37

Do you mean psychology?

beentoldcomputersaysno · 11/01/2022 14:37

@Flaxmeadow 'This has always been the problem on here with this 'dementor' name calling crap. A refusal to let others discuss how serious the situation is, without being shouted down'
It's just a stonewalling tactic. There are pros and cons to doing nothing, to using some protective measures, to vaccination, to full on lockdown. In the same way as suggesting ventilation is addressed may be met with "so you want another lockdown / covid will be around forever / can catch it anywhere". Stonewalling and deflection.

KurtWilde · 11/01/2022 14:42

@Blubells

The virus doesn’t care if you’ve “had enough"

Well I don't care that the virus doesn't care!!

Most people have come to the conclusion that the virus is not a great threat to them, whatever the virus may 'think' or 'care about'!

Pretty much sums up everyone I know. Our area peaked early in the pandemic and the numbers stayed high longer than most, but once it dropped to 'orange' last year it's been a downward trend ever since and we're at 'yellow' on the map now. I'm assuming because the majority of the city had it in 2020/early2021 and now the majority here are also triple jabbed.