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To say get your fucking vaccine (if you can)

481 replies

Urthie · 10/01/2022 10:37

And if you chose not to please don’t give COVID to my red zone working partner.

I’m CEV, I’m positive, I can have only caught it from him - and he works In a red zone where last week 98% of patients were not vaccinated

Sorry for the moan.

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Sugarplumfairy65 · 10/01/2022 12:20

@SelfIdentifiedRightsHoarder

I'm fully vaccinated, but currently wondering why I bothered. About half of my extended family are vaccinated, we all saw eachother on new years eve (all did lateral flows beforehand and obviously no symptoms) and every single one of us now has covid. All of our symptoms have been the same, vaccinations dont seem to have made the slightest bit of difference to the severity and transmission. I was very pro vaccine beforehand, and I know this is anecdotal but I'm now thinking what's the point, it's really made me question how effective they are
Imagine how many of you would have been seriously ill or dead if you hadn't all had the vaccine?
samwitwicky · 10/01/2022 12:21

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LittleMissnotLittleMrs · 10/01/2022 12:23

It certainly becomes my business as it is my LIFE that is being jeopardised. I am waiting for brain surgery. I have been waiting for over a year. I can’t have it if I catch covid within 7 weeks of my date. I am having to use 7 weeks sick leave BEFORE I get the surgery because icu beds are full on the unvaxed. So yes, their choices are my business

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ilovesooty · 10/01/2022 12:26

@elastamum

Honestly people, give the op a break. If her partner works in COVID HD wards they will have been to hell and back over the past two years. Regardless of arguing the finer points of infection stats, if we had 100% mass vaccination the health service would be under less pressure than it is right now. I can completely understand how she feels and it is pretty sad to watch a bunch of comfortable keyboard warriors have a go at her. OP, I hope you feel better soon.
I agree. The OP is frustrated and worried.

I hope you make a speedy recovery @Urthie.

Slayduggee · 10/01/2022 12:27

Triple vax gives up to 70% protection against symptomatic infection. The article doesn’t quite figure for asymptomatic infection. www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaccines-covid-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-b1989568.html

Those with symptomatic infection may end up in hospital. If there wasn’t so many people in hospital with COVID the OPs partner may have caught covid. If there were less people in hospital with covid then those beds and staff could be used for other patients.

grapewine · 10/01/2022 12:27

I had my booster like a good citizen and paid for it with a hospital stay, following a suspected blood clot. I'm done having them. I thought I was going to die alone when I fell ill in the street. It was terrifying. Covid will be, too, if I catch it, I know, but the idea that we'll have to do this every six months because vaccines don't last very long honestly scares me right now.

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Slayduggee · 10/01/2022 12:27

May not not May!

MarshaBradyo · 10/01/2022 12:28

People talking about it being ‘their business’ what other people do are more likely to put them off than persuade them. It’s counterproductive

Sugarplumfairy65 · 10/01/2022 12:28

@doublemonkey

Isn't it time as a society we had an adult conversation about this? There are other pathways we can take now which will have far better outcomes.

It's clear the vaccine provides a very small window of protection. Demonising people who choose to not get jabed and blaming them for transmission when it's actually vaccinated people who are catching and spreading covid is actually insane.

Do people not realise how crazy this is?

What "pathway" do you think the CEV should take?
Itsalmostanaccessory · 10/01/2022 12:29

@PasstheBucket89

Being vaccinated does not prevent you catching it or passing it on, it means your own symptoms will be less severe.
Which would mean those people the OP is talking about wouldnt be in hospital, because they wouldnt be severely ill, which would mean the medical staff would not be at such high risk of catching it and passing it onto their families.

When you choose not to get vaccinated, it doesnt just affect you. You get covid, you get a lot more sick than vaccinated people, you need hospital treatment and medical staff then have to treat positive cases who would have been at home and isolating if they were vaccinated. That's how medical staff get it. And spread it. And have to stay off work.

BlancheB · 10/01/2022 12:30

@Chloemol

Wow lots of nasty posts on her

Why are people so nasty? There is n9need for it

Op asks a reasonable ask. She is more than aware jabs won’t stop transmission, but will reduce it

Imagine if more of the unvaccinated were in fact vaccinated and the reduction in cases that is likely to bring ( and it will reduce as not everyone will get it )

But no let’s just crack on being nasty

Did you even read the title of the thread? That's where the nastiness started right there. Just because you don't like the responses, there's no need to point the finger at others for this thread which was never going to be a nice "chat"...

chasingrain · 10/01/2022 12:30

@ravenmum Not sure if you realise that hospital is in Victoria Australia, that article was released October 15th 2021 - at that point only 54% of the population had been double vaxxed. So quite a big difference to the situation the UK are in. We have a fantastic vaccine uptake. Also don't forget the massive surge Australia had because of the harsh lockdowns they had.

You really cant compare the UK to Australia,

TheChip · 10/01/2022 12:31

Thats assuming that everybody who is unvaccinated ends up in hospital which isn't the case

Laiste · 10/01/2022 12:31

It's not anybodies business what other people do with/to their own bodies.

Not the business of the nosey neighbour. Not the business of someone waiting to go into hospital.

If you start going down the route of ''it's my business because it affects ME'' then every choice YOU make then also becomes everyone's business too.

You chose to smoke so you don't deserve to go ahead of me in the NHS queue.

But you chose to go skiing so you don't deserve to go ahead of anyone either.

I'm ''blameless'' so i deserve to go first. I vote me first. It's my business who's in hospital and why.

Is this really how some people want to live?

Faultymain5 · 10/01/2022 12:32

@Urthie

I’m vaccinated, we have been super careful - he’s working with unvaccinated people, he’s got it, I’ve now got it …

Vaccines don’t stop the spread, but they do have a good chance of you not ending up in ITU

I'm vaccinated and boostered, I still caught it. I'm still recovering 6 days after coming out of quarantine.

My gamer son, caught it from me. he doesn't go anywhere. He made arrangements to meet friends after testing. I had just come out the other side and he tested positive. He had spent the previous two weeks in his bedroom. I gave it to him. I'm vaccinated. I'm no more safer than he is unvaccinated and barely coming out of his bedroom. Calm down with the fear. We're all going to have to get it, we're in herd immunity stage now. Unfortunately, that means some of us will survive and very few of us won't. It's horrible and scary becasue we do not know who definitely will suffer badly from it. But I can assure you, being vaccinated or not, won't make the difference you think it will. Just yesterday a healthcare professional was saying that those unvaccinated, are only needing admission for two days when they are admitted.

Really things are slowly looking up as we learn to live with this virus.

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 12:33

You see OP, the point you are missing is that whilst it is fine for anyone to make a choice about what to, or not to, put in their body, it is NEVER EVER EVER fine for ANYONE to be oissed off att he somewhat obvious repercussions of that action/inaction.

Mainly because the vaguaries of transmission/efficacy of vaccines is only grist for the mill one way: to prove that having the vaccine is not a guarantee.

It can never, ever be used to prove that it is measurably better than not having a vaccine for that vast majority of individuals.

So stop your CEV complaining, be glad your OH has even got a job because, because and get on with your life and leave others to live theirs without you trying to guilt trip them into summink summink

I too hope that you only have a mild case and that your OH does too. Flowers

Nahhh · 10/01/2022 12:34

I don’t understand the meanness about CEV people. 2 years ago they were told this virus would kill them and to lock themselves away in their homes and see no one for months on end. It’s going to take an awful lot of changing thought processes to be as blasé about Covid as the general population.

ravenmum · 10/01/2022 12:35

[quote chasingrain]@ravenmum Not sure if you realise that hospital is in Victoria Australia, that article was released October 15th 2021 - at that point only 54% of the population had been double vaxxed. So quite a big difference to the situation the UK are in. We have a fantastic vaccine uptake. Also don't forget the massive surge Australia had because of the harsh lockdowns they had.

You really cant compare the UK to Australia,[/quote]
I'm saying that OP appears to be in Australia, hence her use of the phrase "red zone", which seems to be Australian.

IamGusFring · 10/01/2022 12:35

Several times a week we see the articles about someone who has not been vaccinated , is imploring people to get vaccinated and then they die . To me it's pretty simple. You take your chances but don't expect any sympathy when it doesn't work out .

JanisMoplin · 10/01/2022 12:35

@HoardingSamphireSaurus

You see OP, the point you are missing is that whilst it is fine for anyone to make a choice about what to, or not to, put in their body, it is NEVER EVER EVER fine for ANYONE to be oissed off att he somewhat obvious repercussions of that action/inaction.

Mainly because the vaguaries of transmission/efficacy of vaccines is only grist for the mill one way: to prove that having the vaccine is not a guarantee.

It can never, ever be used to prove that it is measurably better than not having a vaccine for that vast majority of individuals.

So stop your CEV complaining, be glad your OH has even got a job because, because and get on with your life and leave others to live theirs without you trying to guilt trip them into summink summink

I too hope that you only have a mild case and that your OH does too. Flowers

I mean, it has been proved that having the vaccine is better. Measurably so.
Morgan12 · 10/01/2022 12:36

I've had two vaccines and now I've been invited for a third in less than a year. I'm scunnered tbh. I'm not getting my third. I'll reconsider when more is known.

jollygreenpea · 10/01/2022 12:37

I know 3 unvaxed people that have had covid, for all 3 it was a cold/flu.

Not every unvaxed will end up in hospital.

I appreciate that is only my experience of it.