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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 12:15

Track and trace just called as my son had positive lft then pcr on 3rd. I tested positive on 27.12,I've not had texts and emails from track and trace saying I've been identified as a contact of a positive case and so I need to isolate for 10 days,that isn't right is it? If he likely caught it from me anyway,my isolation is due to end on 6th,his day 10 is 13th

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Hopeandglory · 05/01/2022 21:09

as I am triple jabbed I no longer need to isolate when I am a contact, just do daily LFT's, which is fine. I do not cost my employer additional costs as I have taken advantage of the free jabs, I continue to work as normal as I have the safeguard of the vaccine and my DD who is a critical care nurse (currently off with C19 due to the whole of her C19 icu ward being 100% unvaccinated) does not need to worry about the possibility of me being ill enough to be admitted to her ward.

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CrocodilesCry · 05/01/2022 21:39

Gosh @Badassbreastfeeder85 that was a really vile message to @Hopeandglory - who is totally right.

The people most seriously ill in hospitals (in ICU etc) are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. You are at far higher risk of being severely ill or dying if you are unvaccinated. These are the facts.

But oh, you better call up Chris Witty with your personal findings and let him know that vaccines mean you're more likely to catch Covid and be ill Hmm

If I was your employer I definitely wouldn't pay you for being off if you're unvaccinated - why should they.

Zippy1510 · 05/01/2022 21:42

I’d stay inside if I was potentially contagious- what with my heavily unvaccinated community and all. Wouldn’t want to be accidentally killing any of them.

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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 21:50

So I shouldn't get sick pay for anything then?if I was in a car accident it would be my own fault for being in a car,if I caught a sickness bug I shouldn't get sick pay cause that's contagious,my son isn't even old enough to be vaccinated even if I wanted to so now hes got covid I should be financially penalised there too? It would be ok for me to be off work with covid if I was vaccinated tho? What's the logic there

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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 21:54

I am self isolating as per government rules,my post was to ask if I needed to do an additional isolation due to my son now testing as per what track and trace are suggesting,I haven't broken any rules and wore as mask indoors and attempted to shield my son from catching it as much as possible, I also wear a mask and visor at school to avoid exposure or passing anything on to other people's children

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Hopeandglory · 05/01/2022 22:13

Oddly my contribution to the ending of the pandemic is nothing other than what a MAJORITY of people have done. If you have decided not to have the vaccine then that is your choice but putting my DD at risk due to your unvaccinated status does annoy me. DD is triple jabbed and she still has caught it, probably from work but that does not matter because she is unimportant to you, she has held ipads so that people can say goodbye to loved ones, she has held peoples hands so that they are not alone. If someone can not have a vaccine I have not got a problem but when someone feels that they are better than another and choose not to have a vaccine just hold a mental picture in your mind of those that have suffered, numerous people have died before their time as they have been exposed through their work.

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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 22:32

If your daughter is triple jabbed surely I am very low risk to her cause these jabs are meant to work? Do you treat people who don't have flu vaccines with the same contempt? The flu has routinely,year on year kills thousands,yet people aren't mandated to have the flu vaccine nor ostracised if they don't have it

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Hopeandglory · 05/01/2022 22:49

You are missing the point, she is dealing with people who are not vaccinated and I doubt if she will ever be the same person that she was prior to the pandemic because of the emotional toll that many within the NHS will carry with them, it is brutal and soul destroying, PTSD is a legacy of C19.
I don't have contempt for you, I pity your lack of understanding. I have taken every precaution available to me to allow others, and myself, to continue to live a normal life in an abnormal situation. You have not and you are now asking for an answer due to your lack of respect for others.

Why did you not have the jab? Just out of interest,
my younger DD was hesitant about having the vaccine so a friend who is an immunologist explained and clarified her questions, older DD has also answered some of my questions. I have always found that information is key
and we are all flu jabbed

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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 23:16

I work in a primary school where every single child is unvaccinated,if the risk from the unvaccinated is so great why are the schools still open,are you also worried about dying from the flu is that why you have the flu jab? I am not clinically vulnerable so I have not taken up the vaccine and to be honest over had colds that were worse that covid so I don't feel the vaccine would have made much difference as I would still have caught it and transmitted it, I respect people's right to choose,if they want the vaccine or not,I believe everyone should have that right over their bodies and health care,my op was whether I needed to carry out an additional 10 day isolation once my son tested postotve or not,it was never a vaccine debate

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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 23:18

I wear a mask and visor at work,I wear masks in shops and in other gatherings that to me is taking precautions, we can't stay lockdown and in isolation for ever,the booster only lasts 10 weeks it is not sustainable for everyone to be jabbed every 10 weeks

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AlexaShutUp · 05/01/2022 23:29

@Badassbreastfeeder85

It's still a large amount of adults
You're absolutely right, it is still a large number of adults that are unvaccinated, and that's exactly why hospitals are struggling so much now. I'm just hoping that people like you don't force all of us into another lockdown.
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Badassbreastfeeder85 · 05/01/2022 23:52

@AlexaShutUp people like me who had no choice but to send my child to school when the schools were shut and other children were safely at home to go to work to look after the children of the NHS staff so don't give me the people like you shit cause without people like me NHS staff wouldn't have been able to go to work

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Wreath21 · 05/01/2022 23:56

Remember that it is enormously unlikely you would infect anyone else if you are in the open air, so go for as many walks as you like. No one has the right to challenge you for your infection or vaccination status when you are out for a walk and anyone who tries can be told to fuck off.
In terms of ethics and public health, just wear a mask in enclosed spaces and test if you are likely to be spending time with anyone vulnerable. Everything else is moralistic nonsense.

AlexaShutUp · 06/01/2022 00:19

[quote Badassbreastfeeder85]@AlexaShutUp people like me who had no choice but to send my child to school when the schools were shut and other children were safely at home to go to work to look after the children of the NHS staff so don't give me the people like you shit cause without people like me NHS staff wouldn't have been able to go to work[/quote]
Not really sure what that's got to do with anything. But in any case, seeing as you're apparently unconcerned about the virus itself, surely there was nothing that special about you going to work to do your job? I presume that you were paid your usual salary? And if you believe that the risk from covid is minimal, then why on earth would your children need to be "safely at home"? So many parents were desperate for their kids to go into school but they didn't have that option.

Personally, I don't want my dd to miss any more of her education, and the biggest risk to that at present is the number of unvaccinated people being hospitalised.

Anyway, my point was to agree with you that the number of unvaccinated adults is indeed significant. Unfortunately.

cupofdecaf · 06/01/2022 08:55

OP it's your right not to have any medical treatment you don't want.
However do you understand that if you're vaccinated you are less likely to get it and pass it on? Your son probably wouldn't have got it if you'd been vaccinated. How do you feel about that?
How do you feel knowing you could pass it on to an elderly or vulnerable person? I'm curious to know.

liveforsummer · 06/01/2022 09:00

Oh come on I have covid and am fully vaccinated. I caught it having been out the house once and went to one quiet supermarket. Everyone I know who currently has it (and that's a lot) is fully vaccinated. Let's not pretend the vaccine actually stops you catching it and once you have it you can pass it on. The vaccine hopefully just stops you getting very unwell and taking up hospital beds

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/01/2022 09:05

[quote Badassbreastfeeder85]@AlexaShutUp people like me who had no choice but to send my child to school when the schools were shut and other children were safely at home to go to work to look after the children of the NHS staff so don't give me the people like you shit cause without people like me NHS staff wouldn't have been able to go to work[/quote]
You can't have been that worried about sending your child to school because you've said Covid is no worse than a cold.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/01/2022 09:06

@liveforsummer

Oh come on I have covid and am fully vaccinated. I caught it having been out the house once and went to one quiet supermarket. Everyone I know who currently has it (and that's a lot) is fully vaccinated. Let's not pretend the vaccine actually stops you catching it and once you have it you can pass it on. The vaccine hopefully just stops you getting very unwell and taking up hospital beds
Literally no one is saying the vaccine stops you catching it.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/01/2022 09:07

@cupofdecaf

OP it's your right not to have any medical treatment you don't want. However do you understand that if you're vaccinated you are less likely to get it and pass it on? Your son probably wouldn't have got it if you'd been vaccinated. How do you feel about that? How do you feel knowing you could pass it on to an elderly or vulnerable person? I'm curious to know.
That's nonsense. My son caught it off me despite me being vaccinated.
liveforsummer · 06/01/2022 09:08

@cupofdecaf literally just said her son probably wouldn't have caught covid if OP was vaccinated. Ridiculous thing to say

SmileyClare · 06/01/2022 09:13

Lots of work places have now removed sick pay for unvaccinated staff isolating as covid contacts.

Working in a school, I would imagine you're going to be in regular contact with covid infection. It's likely you'll find yourself isolating as a contact very frequently. I'm not even sure you'll be able to keep up with cases around you? School pupils (and the general public) are not using Track and Trace on the whole.

It sounds like this winter's going to be tough for you.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/01/2022 09:13

[quote liveforsummer]@cupofdecaf literally just said her son probably wouldn't have caught covid if OP was vaccinated. Ridiculous thing to say [/quote]
Yes, I missed that one.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/01/2022 09:15

@Badassbreastfeeder85

So I shouldn't get sick pay for anything then?if I was in a car accident it would be my own fault for being in a car,if I caught a sickness bug I shouldn't get sick pay cause that's contagious,my son isn't even old enough to be vaccinated even if I wanted to so now hes got covid I should be financially penalised there too? It would be ok for me to be off work with covid if I was vaccinated tho? What's the logic there
Why should you get sick pay as a close contact if you're not sick?
liveforsummer · 06/01/2022 09:17

@Waxonwaxoff0 just to clarify I was responding to her directly not to the thread as a whole - should have tagged to make that clear.