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Chewbecca · 2021-12-31T16:34:55+00:00

Before we go out this evening. I just think that is a little rude of them! It's for our benefit, not their own so it just seems polite to do it for the people you're seeing. WWYD? If anything.

friedeggandsauce · 01/01/2022 09:16

@Bluebluemoon but they are!

I wonder if it depends on your job. As my job I have to test twice weekly (and log results with school) so it's normal. When we've been to big events (Christmas meal out and the organiser asked, looking round colleges etc) we've had to take them and show results.

My friends (as do I) have elderly relatives so we do it out of respect and care for them,

Yes I know they aren't infallible but if it does screen some out turn it is a good thing. Thankfully not everyone on this planet is selfish!!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 01/01/2022 09:34

I won't routinely do a LFT every time I leave the house.
It's an insane way to live. This isn't my idea of a 'new normal'.

My mil and fil currently have 'the lurgy' and they spent Boxing Day with my bil - all of them tested negatively on the day.
My bil also now has Covid.

EmmaOvary · 01/01/2022 10:13

Who's talking about testing every time you leave the house?!

dittheringdoldrums · 01/01/2022 10:53

[quote EmmaOvary]@Bluebluemoon "Literally no one in the real world is doing this."

Yes, yes they are. Just because you aren't on the off chance you 'test positive because of some fluke', sont assume nobody else is.

We visited CEV MIL and SIL over Christmas. Everyone tested daily. Why? Because we didn't want to end up passing on something to them that could kill them.

It's a sad state of affairs when people think sticking a cotton Bud up their nose for 10 seconds is a serious affront to their liberty.[/quote]
This!
@Marianne1234 how is it a "fairly invasive medical screening test"? It's a cotton but up your nose for 10 seconds

Marianne1234 · 01/01/2022 10:56

Inserting something into the body is literally the definition of invasive.

Watapalava · 01/01/2022 11:03

i went to a huge party last night - 40 people indoors, none of us tested as we were prepared to get covid rather than miss the party. several people who attended had family members at home with covid. Noone cared. Id rather risk covid than miss NYE. Personally i don't think people with covid should have to isolate.

RussianSpy101 · 01/01/2022 11:07

I wouldn’t test but then I wouldn’t go to a restaurant on NYE either.

Emilyontmoor · 01/01/2022 11:35

IIjkk I am curious what triggered that comment

As a woman each year somebody shoves a large metal contraption up my vagina, -and because I have a tilted womb they then twist it around in search of my cervix in a way that feels like they are twisting my insides. All for the very small chance there might be some abnormal cells there. Various other implements have been inserted up there , vaginal ultrasound probe, monitor to attach to my children’s head as it descended. Putting a cotton bud up my nose when there is a 1 in 15 chance I have an infectious virus that could make someone else very ill (though probably not me as I had it asymptomatically) really does not feature on any scale of difficult medical tests I have had to put up with.

Potatodrivers · 01/01/2022 11:40

@Emilyontmoor

IIjkk I am curious what triggered that comment

As a woman each year somebody shoves a large metal contraption up my vagina, -and because I have a tilted womb they then twist it around in search of my cervix in a way that feels like they are twisting my insides. All for the very small chance there might be some abnormal cells there. Various other implements have been inserted up there , vaginal ultrasound probe, monitor to attach to my children’s head as it descended. Putting a cotton bud up my nose when there is a 1 in 15 chance I have an infectious virus that could make someone else very ill (though probably not me as I had it asymptomatically) really does not feature on any scale of difficult medical tests I have had to put up with.

I can not bring myself to ever allow myself to have another smear test. I would rather take my chances with whatever problems that could arise than have to go through that again.

Everybody is different and what is easy and non invasive to some, could be incredibly distressing for others. No matter how simple it seems.

I personally don't find the covid tests awful, but I know others that really struggle with them. Shaming them for finding them difficult would not make it any easier for them.

Emilyontmoor · 01/01/2022 11:42

Watapalava Thank goodness I don’t, and wouldn’t, have friends like you

Emilyontmoor · 01/01/2022 11:54

Potatodrivers I do understand (only too well) that some people have sensory issues that make even being touched very difficult and that for them these, or any, tests are a big issue. However for the libertarians who don’t want to accept even the slightest inconvenience in controlling this pandemic in spite of it throwing our health service into crisis (my local hospital has declared a major incident ) I don’t think that is the issue.

I do recommend you put up with the unpleasant experience of a smear though. I have them yearly because a smear did pick up abnormal cells which had progressed to Cancer in situ and the trauma of an operation to remove them, all the worry it had spread and the subsequent weakness in my cervix which threatened my pregnancies was really something I would have avoided if it could have been detected earlier. I dread to think what would have happened if a smear hadn’t pick it up. It’s only ten minutes and if you don’t have a tilted womb it isn’t painful.

lljkk · 01/01/2022 12:01

Ah, cervical smears. I stopped doing those long long time ago. They are a lot more voluntary than LFTs or PCRs right now, too.

Marianne1234 · 01/01/2022 12:12

Why would you not have a smear?! Cervical cancer is surely a lot more dangerous generally speaking than covid is. Less contagious maybe but after Jade goody I can’t understand why people wouldn’t have smears

Emilyontmoor · 01/01/2022 12:23

Marianne Actually if you are over 25 and have not had the HPV vaccine Cervical Cancer is contagious. Thank goodness our daughters can now get a vaccine and are at much less risk.

Marianne1234 · 01/01/2022 12:24

Oh wow I didn’t know that!

Potatodrivers · 01/01/2022 12:29

@Emilyontmoor

Marianne Actually if you are over 25 and have not had the HPV vaccine Cervical Cancer is contagious. Thank goodness our daughters can now get a vaccine and are at much less risk.

I dont know if you're joking or not.

Either way, I have had a smear before. But it's not something I could do again even if I wanted to. I couldnt even when dosed up on diazepam. Maybe in the future, but its not something I'm concerned about.

Emilyontmoor · 01/01/2022 12:34

Potatodrivers Why would I be joking? I have had Cervical Cancer in situ almost certainly as a result of HPV since my DHs previous girlfriend also developed it. In fact I had a few friends who had abnormal cells detected in our twenties. It is absolutely no joke.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/human-papilloma-virus-hpv/#overview

VaccineSticker · 01/01/2022 12:36

All family and friends have been testing regularly before we meet up. No one bats an eye lid.

Pootle40 · 01/01/2022 12:40

@Waxonwaxoff0

Me and my friends don't ask each other if we do LFTs before meeting, nor do my family, because we aren't bothered.

Same.

lljkk · 01/01/2022 12:41

If you're comparing LFTs & PCRs to other unpleasant health screening or diagnostic testing, could talk about colon cancer screening, GTT, mammography, lumbar puncture....

Key difference is that none of those are required for any employment, travel, attending night clubs, using public transport, escaping quarantine, etc. They are still voluntary.

Potatodrivers · 01/01/2022 12:44

[quote Emilyontmoor]Potatodrivers Why would I be joking? I have had Cervical Cancer in situ almost certainly as a result of HPV since my DHs previous girlfriend also developed it. In fact I had a few friends who had abnormal cells detected in our twenties. It is absolutely no joke.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/human-papilloma-virus-hpv/#overview[/quote]
Because cancer itself isn't contagious. The hpv virus, yes.

It just sounded like you were saying cancer was. I understand the hpv virus and know its no joke, which confused me even more.

EmmaOvary · 01/01/2022 12:46

"i went to a huge party last night - 40 people indoors, none of us tested as we were prepared to get covid rather than miss the party. several people who attended had family members at home with covid. Noone cared. Id rather risk covid than miss NYE. Personally i don't think people with covid should have to isolate."

Hope it was worth it, I expect the Track and Trace calls will start arriving in the next few days. Happy new year!

Watapalava · 01/01/2022 12:49

Emma
I've blocked their number besides - so what - i'm triple jabbed so no isolation, and i don't test so no covid.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 01/01/2022 12:50

@EmmaOvary

"i went to a huge party last night - 40 people indoors, none of us tested as we were prepared to get covid rather than miss the party. several people who attended had family members at home with covid. Noone cared. Id rather risk covid than miss NYE. Personally i don't think people with covid should have to isolate."

Hope it was worth it, I expect the Track and Trace calls will start arriving in the next few days. Happy new year!

People don't have to isolate if they're jabbed so T&T calls make no difference. I was a close contact last week, I didn't catch Covid so it was no inconvenience to me.

EmmaOvary · 01/01/2022 12:52

@Watapalava "I don't test, so no Covid "

What have I just read?!