Living with a non-vaxer

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Anyone in the same boat? I’m really struggling and could do with tips and advice on how others are handling things if they have different views on this than their partner - and somehow manage to keep the peace.

DH has been in a foul mood with me for two days because I tried to go get my booster shot (failed as the queue was too long, and had kids to pick up from childcare).

We’ve gone from the silent treatment, to arguing and back again. I’ve tried to make the peace, to agree to disagree, but it descends into more shouting and arguing somehow.

We have relatives due to come over and stay from tomorrow, the kids have Xmas, I just want an air of normality or at least civility and enjoy the next few day. Instead I’m in constant tears and dreading being in the house with this atmosphere.

Of those patients admitted to hospital with Omicron (data up to 20 Dec), 12.9% had received a booster dose, 56.1% a second dose - so 69% are vaccinated in hospital with Omicron. Only 20.5% in hospital with Omicron are not vaccinated (in fact it’s less than that as some of the 20.5% have had one jab). Source below

@cloudchaos you are not understanding the statistics.
There are far fewer unvaccinated people in the population, than vaxxed. So those 20% of the hospital in patients represent a far higher incidence of serious covid among unvaccinated people, than vaccinated

@saraclara I almost word for word took the stats from the paper and made no further interpretation or understanding. Those are the stats for Omicron from 23 Dec. Data from 20th Dec. Source was attached.

@pointythings I can't find any stats for omicron patients in ICU (vaccinated vs unvaccinated) are you able to point me in the right direction?

@saraclara further I was responding to a poster who specifically spoke about hospitalisation numbers. If you read the paper, it says you can't determine vaccine effectiveness due to the small sample size (see 2.4) but vaccine effectiveness is outlined in that section, if it's vaccine effectiveness you're interested in.

Sorry. I have people in my life who are using those stats to imply that there's no point in vaccination. Because they don't understand how to use the statistics. So whenever I see those stats posted, I get a knee jerk reaction. I'm looking for a very simple graphic that I saw that explains that easily.

@saraclara no worries. I'm triple jabbed and definitely not anti-vax but I do like to look at actual statistics. I'm sorry if the way I posted seemed in anyway biased as that wasn't my intention.

Cloudchaos not particularly Omicron patients, but unvaxxed patients in general - there is plenty of data around from various hospitals. The strain doesn't matter much, does it? The issue is that unvaxxed patients with COVID are disproportionately ending up in ICU. The ratios are changing as vaccinated patients who are immunocompromised (so the vacines don't work as well for them) are infected, but equally the number of vaccinated people is higher now. The fact is still that if you are unvaccinated, you are much more likely to have serious illness and end up in ICU - and these ICU admissions are avoidable. I think refusing the vaccine without a valid medical reason is irresponsible and selfish.

Hmmm I thought it’s widely reported most people in hospitals are vaccinated because most of the general population is now vaccinated?

I honestly cannot imagine our vaccination status causing such a rift. You two probably need to sit down and agree to stop talking about it.

You’ll probably be holding some resentment towards him if you’re honest with yourself? You’ve had a holiday cancelled because of him. Could you have gone without him?

My Dsis is, her DH is generally a controlling twat, who is paranoid about everything.

Her DD who is vaccinated is positive at the moment, he father is ranting like a lunatic, she is 20 so okay isolating alone.

I've no tips for dealing with him other than leave him. I hate sulking men or those who dominate the home with their moods.

Are you my sister?

we were suppose to go on holiday, but cancelled because he couldn’t get into the country unvaccinated

Hang on, were you the OP who was taking her children to Lapland or such like and he refused to come despite the fact it was for his kids?

This isn't really about vaccination it's about a lack of love and respect. I could not live with someone who was so angry.
You have got used to it and don't see how bad things are if you can't relax and have to bite your tongue all the time.

Hi, OP. We're moving your thread to the Coronavirus topic now.

We're both fully vaxxed but I've already decided I'm not having another booster for at least a year (needle phobia, not anti vaxx). DH knows this and, while I have no idea if he agrees with me or not, he's supportive and said it doesn't matter if we can't go abroad (just an example), it's my choice. I could be in a relationship where we didn't respect each other.

Our family is 50% of us vaccinated. We keep the peaceful reasonably well. I have suggest covid might not be a great topic for us to discuss at Christmas however as people have very strong views.

Sometimes you get Tories and Labour supporters marrying and getting on fine for example. Some couples can manage big differences and others can hardly bear to be in the same house as someone with a different view.

Omicron seems to be a bit different re effectiveness of vaccine which isn't necessarily surprising but there isn't any data yet on whether people with the (milder?) omicron variant are more or less susceptible to reinfection with other variants.

Our family is 50% of us vaccinated. We keep the peaceful reasonably well. I have suggest covid might not be a great topic for us to discuss at Christmas however as people have very strong views.

Sometimes you get Tories and Labour supporters marrying and getting on fine for example. Some couples can manage big differences and others can hardly bear to be in the same house as someone with a different view.
What the Storm Arwen split like?

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