London

[JaceLancs]

Why isn’t London in a local lockdown or having different restrictions to other areas?
Last year some areas of country were under special measures for ages eg Bolton and Leicester
Why is it different now for London?
Regional prejudice and injustice as usual

The simple answer is the ending of regional restrictions. London bias does exist though.

I'd have a simple change, face coverings or face shields on public transport being required for all, no exceptions.

London data centre - showing rises in hospital admissions

data.london.gov.uk/dataset/coronavirus--covid-19--cases

There's a lag on the dates of information between tests and admissions on the main dashboard figures, which are the ones The Times is using - date for test figure is 22/12 but for hospital admissions is 18/22

The London figures are both on 22/12 and show more in hospital than mid-Dec 2020 and also slightly more on ventilators

Oh god not this tired argument again. It’s not summer 2020 anymore.

London is my favourite place to visit. It will be in the way back from seeing our son who has been on deployment for most of this year. We have been boosted and are careful. Not had Covid yet.
Wouldn't break any rules if things changed though.

@fourdaysoff

The simple answer is the ending of regional restrictions. London bias does exist though.

I'd have a simple change, face coverings or face shields on public transport being required for all, no exceptions.

Not face shields - they really do nothing a exhalations go straight round them (their use is to protect the eyes when you need really full on protection in highly risky contact with known cases)

[quote Joystir59]@generalh
I must be the only one wanting visit London next week then
You will have a lovely time![/quote]
London is my favourite place to visit. It will be in the way back from seeing our son who has been on deployment for most of this year. We have been boosted and are careful. Not had Covid yet. Obviously if things change we wouldn't break rules and cancel.

Up in centre London yesterday, busy but not ridiculous. Queues for Wagamama and shake shack in convent garden as per usual but easy enough to get a table early afternoon time elsewhere by the look of it. Very Christmassy and worth a wander round if anyone planning a trip.

Why put restrictions on something that is causing mild cases and that is not overwhelming the hospitals?

Oh bore off OP - I guess it wouldn't be Christmas without a London bashing thread.

@fourdaysoff Visors do nothing on their own, so what is the point other than covid "theatre"

@EasterIssland

Why put restrictions on something that is causing mild cases and that is not overwhelming the hospitals?

OP wants payback for regional lockdowns last year

Because London bankrolls and subsidises the whole country. Yes it's London bias because if you close it down the whole country suffers.

Umm because then you would have the northerners complaining they can’t get home for christmas

@fourdaysoff

The simple answer is the ending of regional restrictions. London bias does exist though.

I'd have a simple change, face coverings or face shields on public transport being required for all, no exceptions.

TFL is requiring face coverings? Members of staff were handing them out at Victoria last week to those who “forgot”.

@PeacefulPottering

I cannot believe you guys are STILL squabbling amongst yourselves!!! It's not fair!!! It's the unvaxxed!! It's you not me!! How about you put your focus on a Government that has induced psychological fear into you and realise you CAN escape it. Turn the TV off. Stop living in fear. There is NOTHING to fear about this virus now except what they have put in your head.

Somebody’s been swallowing some Facebook tripe.

PS London, Kent and others in the South East also had special measures, Tier 4, cancelled Christmas etc etc last year. The government is hoping the link between cases and hospitalisations is sufficiently broken that they can avoid having to close businesses and give them any money. Duh.

Come on, it's London. Local restrictions are only for others! I'm still annoyed that last December we were tier 3 when London was tier 2, our covid rates were 1/3 of London's

I live in London and don't feel the need to lockdown, thank you very much...

I am triple-jabbed. Work from home most of the time but I test before I go in the office once a week.

Have lived and worked in London throughout the pandemic. Haven't had Covid so far.

No need for hysteria...

Partly because local restrictions don't work - we learned that last Christmas. That's particularly the case in London, just before Christmas - it's an international travel hub and a lot of its population will travel home to other parts of the country for Christmas (especially this year when Omicron being so widespread in London has spooked people).

So London is being used as the canary in the coalmine. Everyone is watching the data on London hospitals to see how they cope. If things start to get unmanageable (in an area with plenty of hospital capacity compared to other areas of the country) then restrictions will be introduced.

At the moment things are looking cautiously optimistic, BUT - we're about to have a super-spreader event, with particular focus on older people having contact with younger people. That is likely to tip things over the edge.

@JaceLancs

Why isn’t London in a local lockdown or having different restrictions to other areas? Last year some areas of country were under special measures for ages eg Bolton and Leicester Why is it different now for London? Regional prejudice and injustice as usual

Tbf it has been pretty conclusively demonstrated by now that localised restrictions and the tier system don't work. We learned that last year. It would be moronic to impose a local lockdown on London.

Where you do have a point is that Leicester and the north west got to be the guinea pigs for this last year, so we could learn the hard way. That can't be separated from central government not giving a shit about either. We were the ones who whose communities were practiced on, were the collateral. But restrictions in London now would still be wrong.

@KatherineJaneway

Preferably . 1/3 of my development is second homes and most of the owners are londoners - I'm expecting the range rovers and other assorted Chelsea tractors to start rolling in around mid afternoon, more around 10pm then final batch tomorrow. Last year hundreds turned up in the middle of the night the Saturday Boris made the evening announcement 19th December causing congestion on the narrow streets

@JaceLancs

Why isn’t London in a local lockdown or having different restrictions to other areas? Last year some areas of country were under special measures for ages eg Bolton and Leicester Why is it different now for London? Regional prejudice and injustice as usual

Because they are letting it run rampant as an experiment to see if a) Omi is as serious and b) how much natural immunity there is is. I do love these “London is shit” posts though. Props up the rest of the country via the economy but is constantly sneered at and denigrated, makes me wonder why we bother.